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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 08:19 PM
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Sonic blaster to be used at G20 protests in Toronto
 
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May 27, 2010 — By Chris Higgins: Toronto National Post
Audio from John Carpenter.
Toronto Police purchased four high-pitched, long-range acoustical devices (LRADs) which will be used during the upcoming G-20 summit. The devices were used at last year's Pittsburgh summit and the Vancouver Olympics.
Officers from the Public Safety Unit, Emergency Task Force and the Marine Unit will be in charge of their ear-piercing deployment.
The force has purchased three hand-held units and one vehicle-mounted system that will be used by the marine unit. LRADS will mainly be used as a communications tool to transmit messages to a large crowd over a wide distance, but there are protocols for using the high-pitched alert function on people, said Const. Drummond of Toronto Police.
"When deployed, we would give them a pre-warning and advise them if they are not complying with the demands being made then there will be an alert function deployed," Const. Drummond said. "That would be the higher pitched warning. It's a burst of two to five seconds at a time that would be given at the discretion of the operator as to how many times it would be used."
The Council of Canadians announced today it will provide free earphones to counter the annoying sound.
"Saying a sound cannon is a tool for communications is like saying waterboarding isn't torture, just a tool for encouraging dialogue," Mark Calzavara, a Council of Canadians organizzer, said in a statement.
He went on: "This is meant to intimidate people and make them too scared to protest. They have spent over a billion dollars on security for this event now and it is clearly violating our charter rights."
Guidelines for use of the devices are currently in the process of being finalized and approved. All officers on the force have been briefed on their functions.
The hand-held units, known as the 100x model, have a maximum decibel level of 137 at one metre away and can be harmful if used improperly. The decision as to what decibel level will be used is at the discretion of a trained supervisor.
The main benefits of the devices for police are that pre-recorded messages in many different languages can be used to disperse a gathering or warn suspects.
"It's very effective when dealing with a very large crowd, and having to overcome loud sounds, such as music and chanting," Const. Drummond said. "Things such as evacuations, riots and protests will be the most likely time they are used."
The LRADs purchased from Current Corp. in Vancouver will be used by Toronto Police on a permanent basis.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/05/27/g20-toronto-police-buy-ear-piercing-sonic-guns-for-crowd-control/#ixzz0pAqmMork
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 08:22 PM
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1. That is so IN-HUMANE. eom
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 08:27 PM
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2. it's time to ditch that weasel with the haircut..........
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MikeMc Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 05:34 PM
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3. LRAD = Alex Jones (They're both sonic, peeps.)
Edited on Fri May-28-10 06:02 PM by MikeMc
Thanks for the info on sonic cannon use at the Vancouver Olympics. I hadn't heard it before. Is the John Carpenter music from the Rowdy Roddy Piper / Keith David movie?
I'm in Pgh. I was there for the G-20 protests. At the time, the Pgh. Post Gazette & the Pgh. City Paper said this was the first non-war zone domestic deployment of that device, though later I heard it had been previously used in rural TX (Alex Jones country) vs. some rightwing separatist compound (not Koresh, maybe 'Republic of TX', right up Alex Jones' alley).
Most of the anti-corporate and anti-nazi activists, in the Pgh G-20 protests, failed to get anywhere near the Convention Center, because the 'native guide' activists started both marches on the G-20 meeting site from a far-flung area, many miles to the east fof the of the downtown site. The organizers COULD have started marching from 'Freedom Corner' in the Hill District, which is where MOST activist marches around here have started for decades, from civil rights to labor to anti-war to gay rights. The activists who were hit with the LRAD would have started marching within a mile of the meeting site, and would have been intermingled with the corporate office workers in Pgh. if they had started from the traditional (for around 50 years) location. That would have made LRAD deployment more difficult. The G-20 protestors got hit, miles away from their destination, with the LRAD, and those active protestors never got close to their goal. So this was either a case of 'Whoops. Accidents happen. Still, musn't grumble.', or it was a case of 'LRAD became more effective in conjunction with government infiltration before the fact'. My thesis is that the second idea is true, and that is where my Alex Jones = LRAD idea comes in to play.
I have no problem with the info that is imparted in the video, or the written info, that is in this post. I have a problem with Alex Jones and Info Wars, which is the source of the video. Jones is a right-wing FAKE activist. He is a blowhard from TX who says 'believe what I say, or I'll kick your butt.' His attempts to pin 9/11 on Israel (& I'm Roman Catholic), instead of bush and Saudis, is a CIA/bushie government attempt to de-rail the movement (by victims' family members) to actually investigate 9/11. Jones is a government man, sounds and smells (looks-walks-quacks) like a LaRoucher / Bircher. One of his fans, named Richard Poplawski, actually shot 4 cops here in April of '09, a bit before the G-20 protests, killing 3 of them in an ambush. Poplawski was a frequent contributor to nazi sites like Stormfront, and also was a contributor of Alex Jones' sites. He was well-connected enough to be captured alive (though some cop gun-butted him in the eye). I don't want the cops to kill suspects, but his live capture was an extreme anomaly. Poplawski actually looks like a Slav organized crime member, if you look at the photos (Russian, Polish, Slovak, Slovene, somewheres around there). There was an unusual restraint on the part of the Pgh. police in bringing him in alive. The police Department's G-20 actions alone, with or without the LRAD, show you how unusually lenient the treatment of this cop-killer was, because more than a hundred G-20 activists came out worse, from their peaceful marches, than Poplawski did after he shot and killed a bunch of cops.
Some people did get close to the G-20 meeting spot, to get their fair share of abuse. The Tibetan independence protestors got close (98% actual Tibetans,), because they didn't start way-the-hell-out in the Lawrenceville or Oakland neighborhoods. The Tibetan nationals got within a few blocks of the power brokers, on the first day. I didn't march with the Tibetans, but went to town from my neighborhood (around 1.5 miles from the Convention Center) on Thursday and Friday. While the out of town activists were getting hammered with the LRAD 5 miles away from the protestors' goal, thanks to their native guides, the Tibetans got very close to the area where the Chinese gov was meeting with World Bank and IMF bigwigs. The Tibetans and a small group of anti-G 20's were unquestionably outnumbered 20 to 1 in downtown by riot police, Nat. Guard, etc.
But the important thing, in this post, is that there was a small group of counter-protestors there. The Tibetans made it up Liberty Ave. to within a few blocks of the D. L. Lawrence Convention Center. They got stopped right by the Federal Building, and there was a group of people who were clustered around the Federal Building, that can only be classified as street-level pro-government scumbags. They weren't college kids, or young repugs, and they were way too organized and political to be the average street hood. They were scruffy, seedy, pro-government, and agressive, like Pagan biKers or Klan or Khristian Identity. (They seemed to be pro-gov to the degree that I felt that I might be assaulted by them from behind. So I moved to where I could keep an eye on them while the action was occurring). While the Tibetans were stopped dead on Liberty Ave by police, with regular city based workers and a few independant activists observing, this group of counter protestors was holding up 'pot leaf' signs and screaming 'G-4-20!', every time the Tibetans' chanting could be out-shouted. They were definitely anti-Tibetan and anti-protestor, because they were spitting and screaming their slogans at the Tibetans, trying to over-shout the Tibetans, and weren't joining the Tibetans in confronting the cops. ('G 4 20' has something to do with April 20 being a pot legalization day, I heard. 4/20 is Hitler's B-day and Walpurgis, as well. A gram, or 'G', used to be called a 'dime bag', but it's been a long time since I've purchased any illegal pot on the street, so maybe a G costs 20 bucks now due to inflation and price-gouging profiteering, I don't know.)
The same group of uber-agressive, agro-whack-jobs was handing out leaflets from Alex Jones' InfoWars and Prison Planet. They were saying that the cops who were shot by (Jones-er) Poplawski were 'martyrs', though the circulated leaflet was apropos of nothing that involved G-20 protests and counter-protests. It just said 'You meanies leave the poor cops (with LRADs) alone! This is a typical 'head-spinner' from the government's COINTELPRO infiltrators. At the time of the anti-G-20 protests in '09, Jones was crying about how he was being attacked by the gov after one of his fans killed a bunch of cops, while acting under Jones' influence and ideology. Simultaneously, at the G-20 protests, the Jones fans were engaged in aiding the cops. His fans aid the cops, while the cops are doing the exact same ultra-repressive things -- (via LRAD and infiltration) -- that his fan Poplawski cited as a reason why he had to ambush and murder a bunch of cops. The 'Jones-ers' were threatening the protestors, while the cops threatened the protestors. There are extremely corrupt and bad cops out there, but the baddies are with the Jones-ers, (so QED, the cops that got bumped off by the Jones-er -- those guys got killed in a 'hit'). I am not pro-police, I am pro-reality. The cops are run by crooked people, and by power brokers like the G-20 nazis. Ditto the Staties and Feds. But if the cops are going up against pro-nazi violent criminals, I have their back. Conversely, the LRAD-wielding cops that the Jones-ers backed -- with the anti-G 20 Tibetan counter-protest -- they are the nazis that I definitely oppose. Really, your average cop is not super smart. They can be intelligent, but even as individuals without group-think, those cops are not quite smart enough to be benevolent or on the side of the American citizen and ecosystem.
Simply put, do not trust the Alex Jones - Info Wars - Prison Planet crowd, when participating in Anti - G 20 protests in Toronto. I will participate if possible, but no matter, these people work for the US gov and int'l corporate capital, as much as the LRAD does. InfoWars is = to a sonic cannon.
Don't trust Jones. Caveat emptor.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 07:13 PM
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4. You know....

It could just be that the political developments of Western Civilization indicate that we've already had a lot of experience with the notion of self-organized bands of rowdy people as a path to more enlightened government.

But, your mileage may vary.

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