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matthewf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:32 PM
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Iran's Army Are Terrorists
 
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Hey DU,
Call your senators and house members.
Demand they stop echoing the neocon Iran talking points.

Do it!
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 06:09 PM
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1. Democrats hello,,, anybody out there?
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 08:17 PM
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5. Congress not being in session is exactly why we are getting
this string of nonsense out of B*sh and the press.

The story's came out this morning that the US had designated Iran's Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization. Reading the details you can see it wasn't the U.S. it was B*sh. Before the day was even over you could see headlines like "US Chokes Funds to Iranian Terror Groups". I am serious:

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/08/15/ap4024142.html

How well oiled of a propaganda machine do we have in this country? If we can make propaganda work this good we have got to be able to make our health care system work for the people, right?
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EnricoFermi Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 06:15 PM
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2. I completely called that, along with others here
They don't even care anymore how obvious it is.

We are going to war with Iran, and there is going to be irrefutable evidence that their "terrorists" orchestrated attacks on the United States.

People are so fucking stupid.
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matthewf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 06:57 PM
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3. yeah
every sign seems to be pointed toward us starting another war.
and the dems keep buying into the talking points. ugh.
we need them to stop.
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 07:55 PM
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4. Every now and then I actually think "maybe Bush is right." Just for a moment...
I mean...maybe the senators and congresscritters know something we don't. After all, there's gotta be SOME REASON for the fact that Bush is as popular as VD at a frat party, Cheney's popularity is practically in single digits, something like two-thirds of the US opposes the war in Iraq, and the GOP is now in the minority in both houses of Congress, and yet our politicians, including the Democrats, continue to treat the Chimp as if it were still October 2001 and folks still thought that the Word of God emanated from his ass. There's got to be SOME REASON why so few in power are willing to say "NO" to this psychopath.
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rAVES Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:44 PM
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6. Because politics is a charade...
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matthewf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:10 PM
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7. hmm...
Edited on Wed Aug-15-07 10:13 PM by matthewf
blackmail?
photos?
explicit phone calls?

or most likely cowardice and incompetence.

i mean, really, name something dem politicians have goten right in the last few years.

they stumbled into victory in 06.
pushed over the finish line by the netroots and a fed up populace.
but it certainly wasn't a result of the dem leadership.
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 04:57 PM
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9. yeah...I was so excited in Nov.
I had started a new teaching job, literally on election day. My principal was a screaming leftist, and wednesday morning we and the other liberals were sitting around gloating and chuckling. But these chowderheads are fucking useless. Absolutely fucking useless.
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NGC_6822 Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 02:58 AM
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8. I have thought the same thing
Here's something to consider about the Iranian Revolutionary Guard:

"Fighting force estimated to number between 125,000 and 350,000 outside regular Iranian military's chain of command

Has own navy, air force and special forces

Has strong influence over Iranian political life and widely involved in country's economy

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Iranian president, rose through ranks of Guard and won presidency with support of its veterans' network."

I took this from the AlJazzera web site this morning and not from the so-called "biased western news media."

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/8EE9700B-78CC-455F-A13D-B7D5865A63E5.htm
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 05:13 PM
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10. They were responsible for capturing the British soldiers

The Royal Navy said the group was on a routine patrol in Iraqi waters and were understood to be unharmed.

But Iranian state television quoted the Iran foreign ministry as saying they had illegally entered Iranian waters.

The Associated Press news agency is quoting US Navy official, Commander Kevin Aandahl, as saying that Iran's Revolutionary Guard were responsible.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6484279.stm


And the US wanted to attack then

The US offered to take military action on behalf of the 15 British sailors and marines held by Iran, including buzzing Iranian Revolutionary Guard positions with warplanes, the Guardian has learned.

In the first few days after the captives were seized and British diplomats were getting no news from Tehran on their whereabouts, Pentagon officials asked their British counterparts: what do you want us to do? They offered a series of military options, a list which remains top secret given the mounting risk of war between the US and Iran. But one of the options was for US combat aircraft to mount aggressive patrols over Iranian Revolutionary Guard bases in Iran, to underline the seriousness of the situation.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,,2051971,00.html
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NGC_6822 Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 01:17 PM
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11. Good point
This explains why their seemed to be some diplomatic confusion on the part of Iran for several days after the capture.
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