Bill Moyers on Rove's legacy

[DeepModem Mom]

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[aaronbees]

1. "And it's really like talking to uh, uh, a fire hydrant."

Wow, Tweety, way to sum up that legacy.

:rofl:

Karen Hughes is just disgusting. Moyers is right on with Rove using religion as a weapon.

Moyers: "Rove is riding out of Dodge City as the posse rides in."

[wordpix]

30. as Tweety says, "Ha!" I pulled out both those quotes to post but you beat me to it

[Jack Rabbit]

2. Moyers nailed a lot

I would only dispute characterizing the 2000 election as a Bush victory when everybody in the world knows it was stolen, and nothing to left to chance in 2004.

Rove will not be missed. He was a bad influence on American politics. His legacy is dirty tricks, smear campaigns and bald faced lies, all raised to art form. No good can come of that, and almost seven years into the Bush Regime, we can see plainly that none has.

He sought to assure a permanent Republican majority. In the process, he may have relegated the GOP to second-class status for decades. No one should feel sorry for the Republican congresscritters who will lose their jobs in 2008 as a result. They bought int this, just as they bought into Tom DeLay's extortion racket. Now they will reap what they sowed.

[underpants]

10. Well said

Rove serves mostly as a cautionary character to be used as a example of what not to do.

Politics involves governing as well as getting elected. Short sightedness is not rewarded with admiration in history and there is no "genius" in cheating.

[bleever]

3. It takes a person of stature and deep respect to deliver the appropiate eulogy

to someone like Karl Rove.

Bill Moyers rises to the occasion, as he has so many times before. Sometimes receiving praise, and often, in these last six or seven years, ridicule. But always to the best of his ability, and with the best interests of democracy in his mind and in his heart.

Well said, Mr. Moyers.

:patriot:

[ProudDad]

4. K&R

Wish I could recommend this one 100 times...

Moyers is GOLD...

[George W. Lush]

5. Moyers is "Master"

Soft spoken and unflinching.
He never misses a beat.

[DeepModem Mom]

9. Indeed, George W. Lush -- welcome to DU!

[JudyM]

6. Short and to the point, the painful truth, Thank you, Mr Moyers. n/t

[rAVES]

7. I love Bill Moyers!

His interview with Jon Stewart was brilliance, as was "buying the war"

[Perry Logan]

8. I always thought Karl was a one-trick pony, i.e., inject disinformation into every campaign.

This is what passes for brilliance amongst wingers.

[NJCher]

11. Another word for Rove

That first part, where all the broadcasters were calling Rove "boy genius" and brilliant, etc., struck me as interesting from the POV of something I read the other night. I was researching gifted adults.

I learned that gifted and brilliant adults have a drive to do good--to do acts that benefit humankind. The article cited numerous examples of accomplishments as the result of these types of people.

Now I see the anchors' remarks about Rove and I cannot help but think they and the newswriters are language-challenged. There are better words to describe Rove.

Yes, I know most news outlets thought the better of it and the following day, many wrote about how he was a failure. Nevertheless, we can all see how they mischaracterized him right after his resignation.



Cher

[rainy]

12. Can you direct me to the info on gifted adults wanting to do good?

I have read that the gifted can't stand injustice.

[wordpix]

31. Rove is so brilliant he is one of the war architects & cheerleaders. Heckuva job, Rover

:sarcasm:

[Amerigo Vespucci]

13. "...the way to take an intellectually incurious, draft-averse naughty playboy in a flight jacket ...

...with chewing tobacco in his back pocket and make him governor of Texas was to sell him as God's anointed..."

So true. Amazing how many "Bush Books" were published during his two terms that took 300-plus pages to say what Moyers said in one sentence.

I realize how many people wanted to see Rove led away in chains at the end of the Plame hearings, but I prefer this final chapter. Seeing him go out with a whimper instead of a bang, with a long chain of failures instead of one resounding indictment, deflates the "legacy" of not only Rove but of his little Pinocchio as well.

It's the al Qaeda principle...take down a key al Qaeda figure and he immediately becomes a martyr. Rove wasn't taken down. He just waddled his fat ass off into the Texas sunset. Rove never had the opportunity to be a martyr. He just had the opportunity to be a failure.

I'm sure that Rove is mixing the search for book deals with his dove hunting, and that his efforts will go toward fluffing up the $500,000,000 "George W. Bush Presidential Library." History will not be kind to this president. In order to rewrite history, this president will need "The Man With The Plan." And like all works of fiction, good and bad, adept and inept, Karl Rove is that man.

[DeepModem Mom]

14. That sentence of Moyers's is pure gold! Great post, Amerigo -- welcome to DU!

[Amerigo Vespucci]

18. Thannks DM M...

:toast:

[L. Coyote]

15. "who turned the Attorney General of the United States into a partisan sock puppet?"

[babylonsister]

16. Thanks, Mom. And again, we leave it to Mr. Moyers to tell the truth. nt

[liberal N proud]

17. So Rove is agnostic?

I can't wait to rub that one on my pet republican who called him a fine American.

[vankuria]

21. Yes, he is a true non-believer

There probably hasn't been as much publicity on this as there should have been. Rove has no religion or faith, doesn't believe in a higher being, yet manages to manipulate the Christian right by pushing all the hot button issues that will appeal to the masses. Rove and the entire Bush administration and every single person connected with it is a nothing but a fraud, perpitrated on the American people. They saw weakness in people and used it to elect the loser son of a well known politician, to commit crimes against humanity. The only way they could get Bush elected was through smear campaigns, dirty tricks, chicanery, and this is "genius" to people like Tweety and his ilk. Unbelievable!

Bravo to Bill Moyers and thanks for posting this!

[blayne]

19. I didn't know Moyers was a Texan.

I'm so proud. Sometimes I feel you all from the New England area have all the fun.

[xxqqqzme]

23. Yes, he is.....worked in LBJ's white house.

[The Count]

20. "Winning elections?" I think not. All them DA's were not replaced for 'winning"

[ooglymoogly]

22. Once more Bill Moyers...a big rec.

[The M Double]

24. Rode out..

as the posse rode in.

Love it!

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[deacon]

26. Rove an agnostic- what a screw job he did on the Christian Right, yowza.

[L0oniX]

29. The christian right screwed themselves...

At the time when Jesus was murdered they were expecting God to set up a government on earth. They were all for that just like they thought the chimpster was going to make the government and country more christian. So many of these people are fakes and never actually read or study what they claim to hold belief in. All they ever do is listen to the misleaders of their church who say what they will so as to collect the money from these poor dumb sheep and lord power over them. They should have kept their eyes on Jesus and not a human.

[tired of the right]

27. I could shorten it all greatly.

I would just simply say the man is evil.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

28. Who has a link to a transcript?

I caught the final 90 seconds of Moyers's commentary tonight.