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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 02:47 PM
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Kucinich's Reply To Gibbs: "The Criticism Is Really A Measure Of Hopes That Have Not Been Realized"
 
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"I think that Mr. Gibbs and the White House need to realize that liberals support the president but the criticism is really a measure of hopes that have not been realized," Kucinich said.

"To try to paint as out of the mainstream people who want a full employment economy, people who want peace, people who want to get out of Iraq and Afghanistan, that is the mistake that Mr. Gibbs made," Kucinich told me.

When I asked the Congressman what more the President could do to please the left after pushing through health care, financial reform and a stimulus bill, Kucinich said until the administration addresses unemployment they will continue to hear from the liberals.

“We shouldn’t be capitulating to the Fed or Wall Street with this false notion that a certain amount of unemployment is necessary for the proper functioning of the economy,” Kucinich said. “We have to get America back to work. That is the key and central issue of all of this and in addition, if I might, don’t forget about getting out of Afghanistan and Iraq.”

More: http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2010/08/rep-kucinich-wont-challenge-obama-in-primary.html
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 02:52 PM
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1. K & R
Now let's wait for the "Kucinich is a grandstander" crowd.

Thanks for the post.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 02:59 PM
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5. I think he was quite statesmanlike in his response
Thanks for the K&R. :hi:
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 02:55 PM
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2. K & R
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 02:56 PM
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3. K&R. DK gets it right, as usual...
:patriot:
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 02:57 PM
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4. Hey Rhiannon
Edited on Thu Aug-12-10 02:59 PM by Turborama
Nice to see you! Thanks for the K&R :hi:
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 03:05 PM
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6. Hello, my friend!
It's great to see you, too! Thanks so much for posting this... DK has been my candidate since 2003 because he always gets it right, IMO... :hi: :fistbump:
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 06:42 AM
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30. Ditto
I understand his reasons for not running for President again, I wish B.O. was more like him....
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 01:32 PM
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44. The thing is
Dennis is a self described liberal. That's why so many of us here support him. The president is not, nor is Hillary Clinton. But the corporate media doesn't recognize the difference, let alone the RW... x( :hi:
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 03:13 PM
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7. Dennis sounds reasonable
to me. But it's hard to tell for sure down here under the bus.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 03:26 PM
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8. K&R
"To try to paint as out of the mainstream"

^^^ The Kooch nails it: That is precisely the goal of this staged "whoopsie."
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Kall Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 03:33 PM
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9. Dennis is right.
As he usually is.

And he said it a lot more politely than I would have. Myself, I'd have said that Gibbs and the White House are the ones in need of drug tests, having spent the last 2 years looking for the hallucinogenic bipartisanship fairy with a Republican party that openly stated they would oppose him uniformally on everything and by result having delivered a string of lousy legislation that excites no one and avoids the roots of the problems they were intended to address.
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freebrew Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 03:56 PM
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11. +1 n/t
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 07:48 AM
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33. +2
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 03:36 PM
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10. k/r
from this "professional" liberal.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 04:02 PM
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12. CRAZY ELF MAN! UFO! UFO!!! EXTREEEEMIST!!!
Posted so that others will not have to trouble their fragile pragmatic little hands.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 01:24 AM
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45. You forgot the smilie:
:eyes:
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 04:13 PM
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13. K&R for Dennis.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 04:40 PM
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14. Thanks for posting this.
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LaloBorges Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 04:42 PM
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15. The Gibbs issue is amazing
Nothing like giving Democrats a chance to come down on their own...give them an opening and Democrats will turn hard against other Democrats...if only Democrats would have the courage, the guts, the will to pound this way every time a Repub says something stupid...

Please, forget about what Gibbs said, you are only aiding the repubs.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 10:29 PM
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21.  Did you watch the video?
Dennis was fantastic. He was supportive AND he gave a clear suggestion for how to think of the flap and what needs to be done.

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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 11:58 AM
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38. You do not foster teamwork by telling people that they have no right to feel as they do.
Many people on the left (me included) feel we have been betrayed by Obama and many Democrats in congress. We have donated and volunteered in election after election,and when we voice our frustrations (over health care "reform", over the watered down stimulus package, over the watered down financial reform bill) we are dismissed as crazy, as whiners, etc.

To make a statement like "you are only aiding the repubs" illustrates my point. It dismisses the work that I and many other liberals have done to help elect more progressive candidates. It dismisses my feelings that the people I helped to elect and with whom I communicate my opinions on a regular basis are ignoring what their constituents want and are selling out to corporate interests like Wall Street, big pharma, and the health insurance industry.

I would contend that passing watered down legislation that falls far short in delivering the amount of help needed to struggling Americans will be the largest factor in "aiding the repubs."

People will be voting their pocketbooks in November. That's what ALWAYS happens in a bad economy. Democrats need every vote, every dime every volunteer to GOTV possible. Dissing people who have worked long and hard to support Democratic candidates is sheer stupidity.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 12:42 PM
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42. No, one cannot forget what Gibbs said
and not doing so is not aiding the republicans.

It is identifying those poised to do a lot of damage to the progressive/liberal/Democratic movement.

It's disturbing that this mindset is advising the president in face of the tide of increasing progressive voter-base agitation that they feel that they've been taken for granted.
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JJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 06:04 PM
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16. Dennis really good guy
Dennis recommended all his support go toward Obama in Iowa primaries. If he hadn't done that, Edwards would have won there.

It appears Obama has no problem stabbing people and supporters in the back. He sold his supporters out before he was even sworn in by means of his corporatist advisers and cabinet picks.
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 06:22 PM
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17. Kucinich demonstrates the biggest difference between Democrats and Republicans.
There are members of the Democratic Party who have not forgotten who their core base is and are fighting for their well-being. They will break ranks from their party leadership, criticize members of an administration from their own party, and vote and speak their consciences.

Republicans, on the other hand, 100% put their party ahead of the well-being of this country and its people. A president from their own party can drive this country's economy into the ditch, screw up one war and lie us into another, allow corporations to run roughshod over this country, and they'll still stand lock-step with the party.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 09:35 PM
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18. Gibbs should take lessons from Kucinich on how to
communicate with people.

Then again, as Rep. Grayson said, Gibbs should be fired. Anyone who was involved in the Rovian smear ad, using Republican fear-mongering, to denigrate a great Democrate like Dean, and side with Republicans to feed into that vile Rovian claim that Bush was better on National Security than Dean, especially at that awful time, not only doesn't belong in the WH Press Room, he doesn't belong in the Democratic Party. He's a sneak with a real mean streak and I cannot believe anyone can defend what he did to Dean.

He will NEVER have credibility again, he is now a liability since his role in that despicable dirty trick has been revealed. I hope Obama was not aware of his past history of attacking Democrats, but now he must be and needs to take Grayson's advice and fire him.

Dennis otoh, I don't know how he remains calm in that city, but he is an example to all of them. They all should be ashamed. Rahm and Gibbs have turned the WH into a petty, pouting, kindergarten and their behavior is reflecting not only on Obama but on all Democrats.

I'd like to ask Gibbs, 'are you trying to get Palin elected in 2012'? Because he and Rahm are certainly working on it.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 09:58 PM
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19. class act
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 10:15 PM
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20. Dennis is sensible. I hope his communication informs the WH that we need progress now!
Dennis cannot control how people vote.

If Obama doesn't create a new deal so that we can rebuild our
country, he may not win. 

Americans are unpredictable when they are angry.  We want our
hopes realized, Gibbs.
Can you make your boss keep his promises? 
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 10:42 PM
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22. K & R For Dennis:)
:-)
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 11:46 PM
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23. K & R nt
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ProgressOnTheMove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 12:02 AM
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24. Let's channel all our ire to the GOP where it's most effective. We can get back to Gibbs after 2010
Edited on Fri Aug-13-10 12:12 AM by ProgressOnTheMove
midterms. If you're mad let's make it work for us and get the real obstructionists out of the way. Whenever you see a GOP congressman see him as Gibbs that ought to work, then we move them out the way. John 'Gibbs' Boehner, Sharon 'Gibbs' Angle. So, when I say Alvin ...
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 12:05 AM
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25. Revenge is a dish best served cold... n/t
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 01:39 AM
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26. K&R. I agree. //nt
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 03:13 AM
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27. K&R

One of the few politicians that still have my trust and respect.

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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 03:56 AM
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28. Kicking for Dennis Kucinich
a really decent human being.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 07:05 AM
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31. +1 spot on!
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nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 04:14 AM
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29. knr. Obama and Gibbs could take some spinal lessons from Kucinich.
K has integrity, and doesn't capitulate in the face of bullies and/or blood-sucking corporations.
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 07:09 AM
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32. such a statesman
and coming from a man who Gibbs thru under the bus it goes double. A measure of hopes that haven't been realized, or maybe just being ignored. Thanks for posting Turbo
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burnsei sensei Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 08:56 AM
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34. All this pious talk about "the mainstream" does not
change the needs and desires of people.
I don't worship the mainstream.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 09:16 AM
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35. The true patriot states his case perfectly, thank you good sir. n/t
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 09:39 AM
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36. Economy is in double dip recession. Let's get going on
joblessness, and we need to get America working. A certain amount of unemployment is not acceptable. Good message no matter if it is coming from the left. Let's relies our hopes.
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 11:35 AM
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37. K & R for a courageous, principled man who's also a class act. n/t
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 12:14 PM
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39. K&R for Dennis. Class always shows and this man HAS it.
I hope the WH HEARS him. He always makes sense to me.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 12:31 PM
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40. I totally agree
Gibbs needs to get out of DC--away from the echo chamber inside the beltway--and hear what actual people are saying, because for someone who is the press secretary, he sure is breathtakingly ill-informed about what is actually going on "on the ground".
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 12:31 PM
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41. "until the administration addresses unemployment they will continue to hear from the liberals."
Absolutely agree. Kucinich reiterates the most important point in this entire discussion, "it's the economy stupid."
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 01:13 PM
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43. kr
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