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celtics23 Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 04:23 PM
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Midweek Politics: Tony Perkins' #2 flunkie smacked down on Prop 8 & gay parenting by actual academic
 
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Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgaDwll7Tdo

I love this...Tony Perkins sends a totally unprepared #2 to debate Prop 8, gay parenting, gay adoption, etc with an actual academic expert on the subject and gets smacked down, knowing almost nothing about the actual facts and citing unfounded generalities. I like this Abbie Goldberg, too.

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qcmadman1 Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 04:24 PM
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1. Amazing how far we could get with actual data N/T
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donthebun Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 04:25 PM
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2. Abbie
I am actually familiar with Abbie Goldberg. I wonder why she is not brought on programs more often...maybe TOO fact-based and not "pundity" enough
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 04:40 PM
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3. I know this is shallow
but that host, David Pakman, is hot. Great clip too.
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davidhilton Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 08:50 PM
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4. So Busted by the pro's! Take these right wing hacks to measure.
Sit and lie in the presence of an expert in the field - he has no facts - what a joke.
The religious right should at least hire an attorney to speak for them - tool.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 09:34 PM
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5. At the end, the Xian wacko brings up the idea that being gay is a choice,
the old "they're not born that way, they choose to be that way, so it isn't a right" canard. Abbie says that that shouldn't matter, that rights aren't dependent on whether someone chooses or is born gay.

That's all well and good - but I wish that she would have pointed out that religious freedom is based on people making a choice as to which religion they will follow. Nobody is born a Xian or a Lutheran. For most people, their parents choose their religion for them. When people become adults, they are usually free to switch religions or become a non-believer.

Yet, I don't see the FRC saying that a person who was "born" Baptist and later chooses to become a Methodist loses his religious freedom because he made a choice.
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