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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 10:39 PM
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Fareed Zakaria: The Cordoba Community Center's Imam Follows A Liberal Form Of Islam Hated By AlQaeda
Edited on Sun Aug-22-10 11:39 PM by Turborama
 
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Posted on DU: August 23, 2010
By DU Member: Turborama
Views on DU: 1378
 
Have you heard of Sufi Islam? Well, Al Qaeda sure has.

It is the mystical brand of Islam that embraces a more liberal interpretation of the Koran. Sufism embraces music and song. It is an interpretation that Al Qaeda views as its mortal enemy.

It is also the sect of Islam embraced by the Imam of the Islamic center near Ground Zero. Watch as Fareed takes a look at what lies behind Sufism...and why Al Qaeda's hatred of it should inform us about where Imam Rauf stands on the Islamic spectrum.


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Related news: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4513834">Imam of the Islamic Center near Ground Zero says US freedoms more in line with Islam than limits of some Muslim nations
(I've changed the AP's title to what it should have been ;-) )

NYC Imam of the Islamic Center near Ground Zero vows to fight extremists
The imam leading plans for an Islamic center near the Manhattan site of the September 11 attacks says he hopes to draw attention during his trip in the Middle East to the common challenges to battle radical religious beliefs.
Video (the follow on video is worth watching, too): http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2010/08/20/VI2010082003990.html


Some related OPs:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8993276">Jon Stewart: "Is FOX News a Terrorist Command Center?" (Daily Show Video & Related Articles)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8976871">Faux Is VERY Dangerous! Their Propaganda War On Islam Is Broadcast Unfiltered ALL OVER THE WORLD

Media Matters (hat tip to Grassy Knoll): http://mediamatters.org/research/201008130015">REPORT: Fox provides megaphone to NYC mosque opponents


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8996561
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 10:58 PM
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1. As a Nation, Americans are not the sharpest nails in the box, and our hatred for
Edited on Sun Aug-22-10 10:59 PM by Bobbieo
things we do not understand is appalling.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 11:15 PM
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2. This has been evidenced today by the protest...
Edited on Sun Aug-22-10 11:17 PM by Turborama
The question is, how do we get people who have been brainwashed by Faux & hate radio to understand simple truths like the one Fareed has so clearly explained in the video?


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4513982

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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 06:42 AM
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8. You are correct!
This is why the Democrats can't get their message out when it comes to all other issues as well! The Democrats are trying to solve complex problems that require the American People to think! Instead the Right Wing media empire lead by Murdoch just takes every issue and warps it like the story of this Multicultural Center NEAR Ground Zero...And repeat the Right Wing warped version the exact same way across all forms of media Murdoch owns & talk radio to where the mainstream media either repeats the message or covers the conflict for sake of covering the conflict such lies produce.

I have said it a thousand times and I will say it again...The Democrats have a nearly impossible challenge getting their message out! Not only do the Democrats not have access to a media empire ready to repeat their message across all forms of media 24/7/365 but their message is one of actual plans for the future how to fix many complex problems that require the American people to stop and THINK!

If you have two kindergarten teachers in one classroom, one teaching arithmetic on the blackboard and the other turns the lights & begins playing cartoons on a 50" HDTV...WHO WILL GET THEIR MESSAGE OUT?

If anything comes out of this maybe it will be some of us on the left take a step back and realize what we are up against and why it is so important we stick together and not tear our selves apart from the inside.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:32 AM
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9. If you click on the link under the guy with the "Miss me?" & Faux bags and go to reply #3
You'll see that they are using a method that proved to be extremely and nightmarishly successful in the past.

I wholeheartedly agree with all you have said and your kindergarten analogy was PERFECT! .

I really like your light at the end of the tunnel optimism at the end, too, even though it's so extremely hard to optimistic when seeing these lunatics in action here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x497821
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:31 AM
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10. Is it not hard to believe what we are...
watching take place right here in America? I served in the military but not to protect this kind of systematic breakdown of our democracy our Constitution the Right Wing is currently doing!

I honestly can't see a way to defeat this kind of FEAR MONGERING considering the media power the Right Wing has...The only way I see it being defeated is once they get in power folks realize what a huge danger they are...However, what if folks just go along like they are now to the point of no return?

I honestly do not think those on the left who are so mad at Obama realize the reality of what is actually happening in the USA right now...I too what many of the same things to happen or change in the US as some of my fellow Liberals want but I realize it simply can't happen over night! Especially when Obama has to fight through all the FEAR, LIES and HATRED the Right turns his true intentions into.


Who knows where we go from here but it does not look like it is going to be forward into the 21st Century!

I FEAR a true Corporate controlled Christian Theocracy!
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 09:10 PM
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14. I share the same fears, man.

Douglas Carpenter said something related to that which I think is a must read @ post #22 on this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4514173#4515158

I haven't seen you on there so a *heads up* on the OP, too.

Have you read the latest piece about the Koch brothers, yet? I think it's at the top of the Greatest by now. We, Liberals/Progressives/anyone who is actually sane need to stick together because divided we will fall and the evil ones will rise, again.
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 08:02 AM
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16. Douglas Carpenter 1000% correct!
Talking about the brand of Islam the Imam responsible for the Islamic Cultural Center in NY adheres to...Check out this clip from Fareed Zakaria's show on CNN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyxVl_ATkIU

...If only the MSM did reporting on all topics like Fareed does it would be a big help. Instead the MSM is more interested in fights than facts!

I just got done replying to someone who keeps claiming, like many of my fellow Liberals do, that Obama is a failure and he is no FDR...These people who say this really have no clue about history or simply choose to ignore it for political reasons...This kind of non thinking is splitting the Left in half if not in more pieces!

Read this and see what you think...

http://open.salon.com/blog/thepeoplesview/2010/08/12/fdr_obama_and_unprecedented_challenges_from_the_right

And this is the story linked in the first article...

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/8/11/15368/6858
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 01:32 PM
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17. Thanks a lot for the Salon and Daily Kos links
I'm off to check them out...

BTW that Fareed Zakaria link is mine, from my YouTube channel. :P Have you got an account on there?
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-10 06:26 AM
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18. Yes, but I do not post videos...
I just watch others! LOL!

...I will subscribe to your channel since you post videos!

My channel name is "Viracocha711"

What is your channel name again in case I can't find that video to get your channel name from?

Thanks!
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 01:06 AM
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6. this is too nuanced for the right. It would be like trying to explain that some countries in Africa
aren't black.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 11:34 PM
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3. Jennifer Granholm said pretty much the same on Meet The Press
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 11:56 PM
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4. kick and recommend!!
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Liberation Angel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 12:23 AM
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5. I Love the Sufis!
I love the dance, the trance, the romance of that swirl and Rumi!

Thanks for sharing.

Propaganda is a bitch people should be embracing this mosque ...

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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 01:20 AM
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7. K&R
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 01:48 PM
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11. What the?
Who would cancel out my rec?
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 01:52 PM
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12. Are you serious?
Someone unrec'd my fine piece of work? I'm going to make a complaint to the management.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 03:27 PM
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13. K&R for Fareed Zakaria and his unique perspective...
He understands these issues and deserves a much larger role in the national dialogue. :( Thanks for sharing this with us! :fistbump:
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 01:09 AM
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15. A huge thanks to everyone who rec'd & has commented and clicked on the YouTube link so far
Edited on Tue Aug-24-10 01:16 AM by Turborama
And a huge thanks in advance to anyone who does in the future.

Your impact is visible on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyxVl_ATkIU">the video's viewing statistics and I'm very grateful to everyone who's taken the time to rec, comment and to give that link a click. The more views, comments and ratings it gets, the bigger the likelihood it goes viral which will in turn increase the chances of the myths and lies about Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf being discredited.



Thanks again! :applause: :yourock: :fistbump:
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