Des Moines Register Q & A : Health Care : Kucinich

[slipslidingaway]

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"What's lacking is political leadership..."

[Hulk]

1. I'm finally admitting to myself that Kucinich has a chance ONLY if we give him a chance...

I finally admitted tonight, listening to this man, that he represents the best hope for this country. That's enough for me. In this day and age, when we "can afford" to present a female candidate to the electorate, a black candidate to the electorate...why not a candidate that has some honest and reasoned solutions to what ails this country??

This man has more answers for this country, and LESS CONNECTION to the special interests that are dragging us into the sewer than all the other candidates combined. His only down side is "his size, and his beautiful wife". I'm sorry folks...this is the year of "what's best for America".

GIVE THIS MAN A CHANCE!!!!!!!

[DJKDJKDJK]

2. If Kucinich is not President this election

Then we're screwed pretty hard for the next 8 years. We need to throw out a lot of congress and put in some people who actually make sense.

[slipslidingaway]

3. Great ! The media marginalizes him every chance they get, even

tonight on Olbermann there was a comment by Millbank about any Dem would be electable... "Except for Kucinich."

No reason given, they just throw these little labels out there to condition the people. And not a word from Olbermann, he just plays along.

No strings, little baggage :)

Thanks.

In case you missed this...all the other candidates, except for Gravel, talk about protecting our national interests in the Middle East. We need a whole new direction and I think he can do it, if as you say, we give him a chance.

Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich: "Privatizing Iraq's Oil is Theft!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26Lr17usifg

[DianaForRussFeingold]

4. K&R I'M VOTING FOR THE SMART DUDE!

Dennis Kucinich:loveya: I just found this video after watching yours and I love it! I think this song would help get Kucinich's message out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMiiOF6clrY Dennis voted NO: Patriot Act, Wiretap, War In Iraq, Corporate Welfare, Outsourcing Jobs, "Guest" Workers, Discrimination, and Tax Breaks for the rich and famous.

Dennis voted NO for all the other unconstitutional acts of GOPwarts in general that we have come to recognize as high crimes. On the record.

I'm not only voting for the smartest candidate, but the only one who would take the actual job of "President" seriously. The others would be too busy looking like actors to work for us.

[slipslidingaway]

5. I loved it !!!

and posted it a day or two ago and there was only one sarcastic comment :(

And it would make a great bumper sticker as well.

To hell with all the shallow comments, he becomes more handsome each day, must be that heart showing through :)

And too bad Feingold decided not to run, but he is still young.

[spindoctor]

6. Are there any arguments against this plan?

I would like to hear some counter arguments (preferably from other Democrats) against this plan.

Anything other than "creating big government" will do.

Also, I believe it to be true that a single payer system is eventually cheaper for everyone but are there some solid stats to back this up?

Does "The Kucinich Plan" take in account that there are people who's income doesn't even allow for affordable (single-payer) health care?

[Dhalgren]

7. "Single-payer means the citizen would pay nothing, zero, for health care.

Just like in all of the other "first-world", industrialized countries. In single-ayer systems health care is free to citizens and cost less than our robber-baron "health care" system...

[spindoctor]

9. That's not exactly true of course

Whether you pay out of pocket or through taxes, ýou still pay.

But that wasn't my question ;)

[Dhalgren]

13. There are no income levels that would "not be able to afford" single-payer.

The patient would have to pay nothing. If this is not the case, please let me know. In Europe and Canada and in most of the developed world, patients pay nothing for health care or drugs or therapy, period. It is part of the tax structure, but so is defense - and health care is more important than "defense" - at least the way the US handles it.

So, if there is some sort of payment that a patient has to make for his/her treatment in a single-payer system (and not the TAX bugaboo - that makes no difference except to Republicans), please let me know. TIA...

[Imp3achbush]

8. The Kucinich Plan

Does take into account those people less fortunate. Under his plan, a person would walk into a hospital/clinic, receive services/help, and then the hospital/clinic charges the government at no cost to the individual. The clinic/hospital is paid per person and is given bonus based on the overall health of its population, thus organizations are encouraged to give more preventative care.

[spindoctor]

10. Yes, its modeled after the Brittish system

But as I said in my other thread, you still pay (through taxes).

Most countries that have universal health care also have a much more progressive tax system, which helps to take the burden of the "small shoulders". So will DK's plan work without tax reforms?

Anyway, I've been trying to find some serious arguments against his plan by people who have the time and resources to do the math but I'm unable to find any. Either nobody can find any objections or it is just not taken seriously (yet).

[slipslidingaway]

11. Please post if you find any serious objections, thanks n/t

[penguin7]

12. Kucinich claims that the savings of

dumping private insurance will pay for the plan. If this is not enough he would tax business. But the tax on business would be less than they are already paying for health care insurance unless they are not insuring their workers.

[cosmicdot]

14. too late to r, but here's a k

[slipslidingaway]

15. Kick, take the plan to the people n/t