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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 10:32 AM
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FBI agents confiscate materials from activist's apartment
 
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 10:35 AM
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1. Meanwhile, RW nutjobs go relatively unmolested
Glad to see that the G-men have their priorities straight :eyes:
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 10:40 AM
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2. these raids are crazy. Obama and team better show us this was


necessary and not something run by the neo cons
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 02:26 PM
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15. Of course they will show us this was necessary.
Edited on Sat Sep-25-10 02:26 PM by truedelphi
Just as Rahm saw to it that so many decent candidates of progressive inclination were to be thrown under the bus so neo nazi but Rahm-approved candidates could run for office in years 2005 to 2008, now we have this nonsense.

When the President makes appointments that are involving selling out conventional food sources to Monsanto Big Shots, despite the fact that this move equals famine, he ceases to be anything other than what Mussolini's definition of "Fascista" indicates -- one who supports the Corporate controlled-take over of a government.
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 10:55 AM
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4. Got to keep all these FBI agents employed and busy...
wouldn't want to expose them to the unemployment hell the rest of us are living with
so, generate unwarranted raids against the most peace loving, anti-war activists in
the country. Something is very twisted and wrong with our government. Interesting
move just before the elections Obama. Exactly who's vote are you courting?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 01:44 PM
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11. I was thinking the same thing. In all fairness, those Feds looked less than thrilled
to be there -- just doing their j.o.b. -- I wonder who's behind this?
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RobertBlue Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 10:43 AM
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3. They stopped smiling after they saw the camera.
I guess that it's less funny when people can see your mug on the net.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 11:26 AM
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5. And this is happening on whose watch?
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 11:58 AM
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6. when do we hire a Democratic President???????
secret signing statements... to kill American's off our soil, with no justice and with no justice system, shoot to kill orders..

Women's reproductive rights under assault.

Health care bill written by the very people who want to kill health care in this nation and only fill their corporate board bonus packages, filled with loop holes to remove the most vunerable among us , like children!!

Illegal Renditions continue to this very day!

Immunity for the telecoms who illegally tapped our phones and read our emails.

and on and on and on............








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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 12:33 PM
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7. every hour of the day it becomes worse .... proof that there is no Presidency
Edited on Sat Sep-25-10 12:40 PM by peacetalksforall
The barons are running everything. People should figure it out sooner or later.

This country is the most hypocritical of any in history because of the breadth of the deception that this is a Democracy.

Meanwhile, an entire tv network is operating all over the globe on behalf of the right wing and Tea Party promoting hate and fear of the President, government, and the Constitusion by their lies, despicable behavior, and vile signs.

Maniacal Christians. Who have lost their way. Blindly working for the Barons.

Except that Murdoch knows what he's doing and all the other networks work for the Barons, but still attempting to show some class when they deliver the lies.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:50 AM
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42. I feel the same way.
Either Obama approves of this crap, or the FBI is running the country and not our president.
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redirish28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 01:53 PM
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12. Exactly... For the Good Mr Obama has done since he has taken office
is vastly out weight in some people's mind by all of this stuff he has continued from the Bush Administration and some have said done more than the Bush Administration.


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mrarundale Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 01:11 PM
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8. So much for Obama....
meet the new boss, same as the old boss....
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azmesa207 Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 03:15 PM
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23. meet the new boss
most every one on this site voted for Obama and continued to trash Hillary Clinton during the run up to the election . Are you happy now
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mrarundale Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 03:39 PM
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25. as I recall HC would have considered repealing the Patriot Act
maybe that is what happened to her "campaign". Obama goes along with the Big Lies, making tepid rhetoric in response to those who question the status quo. He's no MLK Jr.!!!
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Techn0Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 04:03 PM
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30. Actually I never "trashed" her - I just thought Obama was the better choice....
My honest feelings were that his background , growing up in a modest family whose mom worked as a cleaning lady to get him though school, would put him more in touch with middle class values. Obama was a terrific speaker and addressed all the middle class and legal issues that I was looking for in the manner that I was looking for.

I also thought that Hillary was too much in bed with Corporatists like Rupert Murdoch.

Under the circumstances I think I made the right decision given the information that I had.

If I were to make such a decision again, like in 2012, I'd do it differently.

And btw - being smarmy and bitter about things doesn't help you win friends and influence voters.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 05:07 PM
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32. I got taken in by Obama like you did.
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molly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 05:32 PM
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36. And lest you forget
Bill Clinton gave us NAFTA, 3 strikes and you are out, repeal of Glass-Stegall which allows banks to gamble with people's savings ..invest in real estate and wall street..that didn't work out at all, repeal of the Fairness Doctrine which allows a few to own the media, repeal of welfare reform..don't ask don't tell..I could go on and on about bill. Hillary goes all around the world insulting people ..favoring dictatorships and down right antagonistic to true democracies.
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Techn0Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 05:40 PM
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37. All too sadly true :(
The economy and middle class did flourish under the Clintons but sadly they, and the Democrats , allowed enough legislation to pass the Democratic controlled House to set us up for our downfall in the 2000's.

Clinton could have vetoes any one of those bills but instead he allowed them to pass - and it was the NAFTA bill that was largely responsible for destroying wages and U.S. workers in the I.T. industry.

Both parties have screwed us over royally and even the best Democratic candidate I have seen in years sold me out.

Time for a change I suppose

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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 08:48 PM
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40. It was quite fortunate for Pres. Clinton that
The internet was not such an overriding force for Truth back in that era. Most of us were not as informed about what happened under his Command until many years later.

Then when the veil was lifted and we could see how many pieces of Shite legislation he signed off on, like the FCC legislation allowing for consolidation of the media, and the Banking Reform Act that was so monstrous in its pages of pages of additions and amendments that to this very day many lawyers still don't know what it does and doesn't do, it was all too late.

<sigh>


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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 05:27 PM
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35. Like the DLC queen would be any better.
:eyes:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 01:30 PM
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9. That's Bruce!
He's a friend from Camp Casey and an awesome activist. I was wondering if his home was one they raided. Sure hope not.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 02:21 PM
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14. He sure looks dangerous to me!
:scared:

The End War pin is a dead giveaway of his anti-American leanings! What a revolutionary! :eyes:

Don't they have anything better to do?

Tell him we're rooting for them!!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 05:09 PM
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33. Yes he's very dangerous
You should be quaking with fear.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 05:24 PM
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34. From the video, the raid was on someone named Rick Kelly...
...(or maybe "Mick"?)

I gathered your friend Bruce got a call about it and came over as an observer.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 01:40 PM
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10. Here's more
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 01:59 PM
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13. Some of you make it sound like Obama was on board with this! I know the buck stops
with him, but so many of these organizations are loose cannons (I'm referring to Homeland Security, CIA, et al -- not the Peace Group).

It would be my guess that Obama would be as outraged as we are. I hope he's made aware of this and has a little talk with Napolitano or whatever agency is behind this.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 02:31 PM
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16. Gotta love yourself this President - no matter what?? After all,
If you understood the full implication of a healthy democracy then your love for Obama would have stopped when he visited and made his pretty speech at the G 2-0 summit in Canada recently.

That activity was as anti-democratic as any I can think of. Our Founding Fathers have several statements included in the Constitution to the effect that our elected officials are not supposed to be part of any foreign group who conducts major parts of their meetings in secret and decides policy for our nation without the purview of our citizenry. To partake in these meetings is Unconstitutional, and totally illegal and impeachable, from my read on this.

Your attitude brings to mind the old sixties bumper sticker "If you are not mad, you haven't been paying attention."
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 02:38 PM
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17. that would also include meetings of the IMF, World Bank, WTO
Edited on Sat Sep-25-10 02:42 PM by G_j
etc.,etc.
All the presidents do it.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 02:48 PM
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18. You better believe it would!
Edited on Sat Sep-25-10 02:48 PM by truedelphi
If it had not been for the protesters in Seattle during the Seattle WTO meetings, and all the disruption that those protests caused, the good people of Europe would have lost their right to eat real food. And the indie researchers there would not have the leeway that our American Scientists ahve lost, with regards to studying the effects of GM food.

(Note the University of Caen and the implications of its several year feeding study showing the detrimental problems of GM food as it knocks out the healthy organs of the body. Research like that is hard to come by here in the USA.)

But hey, in a fascist state, we cannot allow for the real concept by "Freedom" and "liberty." We just throw those words around when we need to jack up the young people in the inner cities and out on the farms who are going to sign up for wars.

Anyway enjoy your GM foods, brought to you courtesy of this Administration. Obama has installed Mike Taylor, and Velsick, and many other Monsanto clones in high places at Ag Dept and in FDA and CDC.

I just hope you don't end up with the colitis and other health problems that many I know are already experiencing from eating fusarium-contaminated GM wheat. But hey Nonnie Nonnie and a cha cha cha - the more health problems Monsanto GM food causes, the more money Merck makes. See how great life is in a perfect world?

Don't have time to continue the discussion vis a vis the huge problem with our officials letting the World Bank and IMF take over so much responsibility in this nation. Wait and see the problems those institutions are about to cause this nation.

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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 02:54 PM
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20. Funny you say this..I just saw Clinton oN CNN yesterday he was talking about his diet ..
Edited on Sat Sep-25-10 02:56 PM by flyarm
and two of the doctors who designed the diet he is on were interviewed, and one of the things Clinton mentioned was he only uses ALMOND MILK now..well since I have cholesterol, I bought Some when at the grocery store last night..and right on the side of it it says ..

THIS ALMOND MILK IS MADE FROM ALMONDS THAT WERE NOT GENETICALLY ENGINEERED.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 03:06 PM
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22. And you want to make sure that any soy products you get are organic - otherwise
they're from Monsanto seeds -- they've pretty much got a monopoly on soybeans.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 03:04 PM
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21. I think Obama needs to be educated - the majority of people who haven't
been paying attention think GM foods are okey dokey. It USED to be that our agencies actually had our best interests in mind (I think) - but EVERYTHING has become fucked up and dirty and WRONG because of fucking money.

He is trying to right some of the wrongs (like China killing us because of their devalued yen) -- I think he needs to be made aware of so much of the other stuff.

I feel like I've been kicked in the stomach every time he gets people like Taylor and Velsick, but again, I don't think he realizes the harm they've wrought.

The IMF and World Bank have been encroaching for years - and against these behemoths, a President can't just pull the plug. He doesn't have the power.

None of this is an easy fix. Gotta do what we can when we can. Like Mother Teresa said, if you can't feed a hundred mouths, feed one. We can't expect Obama (or any one person or administrative term) to fix all these horrors simultaneously.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 03:41 PM
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26. Educated? You have his wife touting the values of organic foods, 24/7
And anyone that insistent on organics understands all the implications of the GM stuff.

You think the two of them are married and function as a couple and she hasn't mentioned this to him?

(But then some among us realize that she is CIA all the way, and that other wise he would never have gotten so far in his career.)
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 03:50 PM
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28. People may see the value of organic food without knowing the extent of the
crap that "regular" food is. It just makes sense even to those who don't realize that the rest of our food is essentially fake. I don't think she insists on it, just prefers it when it's available (but I could be wrong).

But you're right, her embracing the organic movement is clearly part of her CIA cover. They don't know we're hip to it!
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molly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 06:50 PM
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38. Just wish we hadn't borrowed so much money from China
Does it seem to you that gives them an enormous leg up?(like China killing us because of their devalued yen)ie the banks pretty much call the shots when we need a loan.

Never could figure out how China which is a very brutal communist regime got most favored trade status with the US and Cuba is just trashed in US foreign policy. What's up with that anyway?
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 03:20 PM
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24. think you misread my post
I should have stated that I was very much against these closed door meetings where they make decisions for all of us.
I have protested at these meetings myself.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 03:42 PM
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27. Sorry to not have known that and thank you for protesting.
Especially given the "crowd control" methods that go onto intimidate and worse the protesters.

:hug:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 02:53 PM
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19. No -- not no matter what. There are several things I can think of that would
make me wash my hands of him, but the G2-0, WTO, etc., are part of the territory, now. I think any President would have attended. They have to deal with today's world. It's my -- probably unrealistic -- hope that with a Dem at the helm, some day those "summits" will be history, or at least truly represent a fair trade environment.

Do you honestly believe that Obama would support harassment of peaceful political activists like this? It's so obvious it's political and WRONG.

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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 08:43 PM
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39. You are living in the mind speak that I lived in for the first three weeks of Nov 2008.
Edited on Sat Sep-25-10 08:44 PM by truedelphi
Wow! A guy who is a true liberal, with a liberal movement inspiring voters to rally around him and help him take over the nation with a NEW AGENDA, no more of that New World Agenda.

And so we are some one year and eight months into his Presidency and what have we witnessed -

Three weeks after his election, he mentions to "Sixty Minutes" that "Hank Paulson is working hard." While Kucinich and others were quite aware that Paulson was working hard, their question was "Just who the F___ is he working for..." Certainly Paulson didn't do anything for us. Except take our money and hand it over to the Big Banking institutions. Like others on the Committee of Oversight of Financial matters that Kucinich chaired, the method needed to truly restore our economy was not to simply hand over Trillions upon Trillions to the same people that created the mess, but to re-employ the laws that had been put in place back in the late eighties during the S & L crisis. Those laws had Congress see to it that the Fed dole out money to state chartered banks in every region of the country. But instead of doing that, The Bush/Obama Bailout ignored the success of the S & L crisis program, and simply went and gave Bernanke/Geithenr(Paulson) the ability to "print up" monies and hand it out to their friends. Without any restrictions, because it was a crisis and how could anyone on Capital Hill possibly stop for ten minutes and think about writing out restrictions? (Well they sure think about restrictions any time a program is set up for the middle class.)

So now it is twenty months later, and the economy is in the toilet, and the only way that the Federal Government can salvage some money to pay for all the deficits brought about by the Bailouts and the Wars is to steal Social Security. And Obama seems on board with that one, as he has some very onerous Right Wing people like Simpson on board that commission.

To summarize, in under twenty one months, Obama has handed over Trillions to the Big Bankers who are hoarding it and using it to buy themselves baubles, while most on Main Street are worrying about their businesses tanking. (CNN's Bialout Tracker was over twelve trillion last time I looked.)

Obama has handed over Health Care Reform to the Big Insurers and Big Industry, with over 65% inflation to most insurance premiums in the last two years, and more inflated premiums to come. For anyone making above the average in wages, the HCR has some benefits, but most Americans are now priced out of the Health Insurance situation - insurance premiums are too expensive, the deductibles are too high, and the co-pays are also exorbitant. But hey Nonnie Nonnie and a Hot cha cha - richer people get their care subsidized by all that we middle income people are forking over.

He has continued the war in Iraq, while saying it is ending. (Almost as many American bodies there now as during the height of the surge, only they wear the uniforms of the Private Contracting Firms.) He continues the war in Afghanistan. The war in Iraq alone has cost us three trillion to date.

He continues the Arne Duncan, Chile-azation of our educational processes, with the charter schools moving hundreds of billions into pockets of major "educators" and consultants, with no hope for real revision of the schooling of our youth, but more expense and more waste.

He refuses to follow the excellent examples set forth by government officials in Ireland, where the government provided money to take the sting out of the "Toxic Assets" of the failing banks, but in Ireland, the government bought the assets and restored the titles of assets to the people living in the homes. So that the values of the housing market are not being wiped out. And people in Ireland are not facing foreclosures. So maybe homes there have gone down some 15% in price since the bubble burst in 2006, while here the prices of homes are down 100% in some areas, like the area I live in. (Three homes out of the six on the block across from mine are now in the hands of the banks, while a fourth neighbor struggles to get someone to help her and her spouse do a modification on their loan. They have already been in the process for ten months and nothing has happened for them so far. And that is about the usual situation, since Obama's mortgage modification legislation had no teeth in it.)

I suppose I could believe that Obama just doesn't know what to do or how to do it. But he had the most intelligent people help him win in the primaries, with a lot of things stacked against him (Clinton entered the race with a huge war chest - he had to rely on the public to get his monies but he did it very well.) So where are all his brilliant advisers now?

How could he go from Brilliant to Dumbie in just twenty months? Or is it that he is brilliant - but just as Kucinich suspected Paulson of working hard - just not for us, so do I suspect that Obama and his people are working hard, but just not for us middle incomed "retards."






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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 12:34 AM
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41. It's long been my complaint that AMERICA doesn't follow examples of other
countries -- in every area be it finance (as you cite), energy, transportation. It just boggles my mind that we think we're smarter than everyone else. Obama isn't the only one to do that -- I'm not excusing it, but that seems to be the mindset of this country. I HOPE we're getting knocked down to size.

I think many of your examples are too black and white - all or nothing.

Health care, yes it's pretty fucked BUT less fucked than before and there are some benefits that have never been seen before. I wanted a lot more, too, but the whole thing isn't a wash. We're getting there.

The only reason I can think of as to why he hired some of the people he did is because he truly didn't have experience in some areas, they did, and he felt more confident giving the jobs to those familiar with whatever industry.

It's my hope that he's learned where he's gone wrong and will be rectifying it as he can. It's a process -- LIFE is a process. I'm encouraged that Rahm w/be leaving and Summers, just waiting with baited breath for Geithner to hit the road, too.

I think he's made some grave errors, but I'm hopeful (again~!) that he's learned from them -- or will.

Reading what you wrote, it seems as though you only think he's fucked up - that he hasn't done anything right. Am I right in that assessment or am I assuming incorrectly? But I guess I should just ask -- do you agree with ANYTHING he has done?

I should say again that I don't disagree with what you say or the examples you cite, I just think there's "more" to it all, if that makes sense.

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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 03:45 PM
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44. he's done one thing right - his insistence that stem cell research proceed
Forward. That is good for the health of our citizenry and for the jobs situation also.

But then his Administration comes out against Marijuana Legalization - as I guess it has to, as Rahm loves those Big Pharma People, and has promised them that they will be able to have the Cannibinoid Patents they are so desperate to secure. Those patents have been in the works since the mid nineties, as I first started reading about them in various Med Journals, like the Journals related to neurology. (Fer Pete's sake, let's not have Muil;tiple Sclerosis growing their own spasm-controlling meds, when they could be paying $ 25 a day or more to Big Pharma!)

The One Thing holding up the New World Agenda of the Bush/Obama Administrations is the little matter of States' Rights. That is why Rahm shoves the Progressive candidates under the bus, no matter how local the office they are seeking.

Di Feinstein gives the New World Order people the same advantage when she vetoes decent candidates for governor of the state of California. She basically handed the state of California on a platter to Schwatzennegger - he had to run against the rodent like Phil Angelides, who most outside of Los Angeles had never heard of. And those inside of LA who had heard of him didn't consider him a scrupulous man. So Ahnold won Big TIme.

The two parties are in collusion with each other. I still vote Democratic, but only because I moved into one of the Most Progressive Democrat counties in the nation. Lake County might be poor, in terms of per capita income, but the folks here are not dummies.





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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 08:53 AM
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47. Agree on the stem cell research. And in addition to anti-Marijuana because of
Rahm's coziness with Pharma, it's a political hot potato, too.

I have to admit that it's politics that determines a lot of action -- or inaction. I hate it, but it's politics! I'm coming to understand that you have to give a little to get a little, and maybe make unpopular moves with an eye on the future and on the big picture. Not saying I agree, but it's the reality. Reality sucks sometimes. :7

Here's a good reason to vote Democratic -- I heard a guy on the radio call in and he said his Dad always said "all I know is that when the Democrats are in power, I do fine, when the Republicans are in power, I lose money." Hope that still holds true during this economic nightmare.
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mrarundale Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 03:56 PM
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29. You're right about the organizations, BUT they are enabled by
the Patriot Act which he has said and done NOTHING against. I'm too lazy to look it up but I remember reading that he could have repealed the Hateriot Act and did nothing. He goes along with the fake terrorist threat that creates billions of dollars for private contractors (mostly with our tax dollars). In fact, Rudy Giuliani started a "security" company after 911, then recently sold it for, I assume, an enormous profit. Coincidence? Nahhh....

WA Post on "Top Secret America" which comprises a huge portion of the federal government and most of the groups do not know what the other groups are doing!!!


http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 05:00 PM
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31. He should have re-worked it. There's a legit need (especially since Bushco
fanned the fires of Anti-American hatred) but it's almost embarrassing in it's current state. He may have not done it for political reasons (not saying that's a legit reason, just offering a possible reason) lest he look 'weak on terror'.

I think even before the Patriot Act, nobody knew what anybody else was doing, otherwise we probably could have prevented 9/11.
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 09:07 AM
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43. Thanks, sharing...
This is a listing of actions on Monday and Tuesday, Sept 28 and 29.

It is in response to the Minneapolis Antiwar Committee's Call for Emergency Actions to Support Anti-War and International Solidarity Activists & Stop FBI Raids and Harassment at Federal Buildings and FBI Offices.

It is 13 cities so far.

We plan to post a major National email on Sunday morning to all of our IAC email lists.

It would list all the cities that we know of so far and include the email from Minneapolis calling for coordinated actions.

If you are posting this to other lists let’s be sure to include the demands and the cities where emergency actions are planned.

**Stop the repression against anti-war and international solidarity activists.

**Immediately return all confiscated materials: computers, cell phones, papers, documents, etc.

**End the grand jury proceedings against anti-war activists.



We need to reach far beyond ourselves and awaken the whole movement to this enormous threat.

How much support there is and whether we can turn this attack back will impact all of our plans in the coming period.

The subpoenas to appear before the Grand Jury start on Oct 5, then Oct 12, 19.


Let’s include as many cities as we possibly can.

Please let me know if you know of ANY other actions.

Many Thanks,

Sara’

Minneapolis MN, Monday: 4:30, FBI Office Monday, 111 Washington Ave. S.

Chicago, IL, Monday: 4:30 FBI Building, 2111 W. Roosevelt Rd.

NYC, Tues. 4:30 to 6pm Federal Building, 26 Federal Plaza,

Newark, NJ Tues 5 to 6pm Federal Building Broad Street

Washington DC, Tues 4:30 – 5:30 FBI Building 935 Pennsylvania Ave NW.

Detroit MI Tuesday 4:30 McNamara Federal Building

Buffalo, NY 4:30 at FBI Building - Corner of So. Elmwood Ave. & Niagara St.

Durham NC on Monday, 12 noon Federal Building, 323 E Chapel Hill St

Raleigh NC. Tuesday 9 am. Federal Building, 310 New Bern Ave

Asheville, NC Tuesday

Atlanta, GA, Tues Noon, FBI Building

Gainesville, FL on Monday, 4:30 PM at FBI Building

Salt Lake City, Utah, 9 AM on Monday at Federal Building


From: "Steff Yorek" <yosteff@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 3:25:46 PM
Subject: Emergency Actions to Support Anti-War and International Solidarity Activists: Stop FBI Raids and Harassment

Emergency Actions to Support Anti-War and International Solidarity Activists



Stop FBI Raids and Harassment



A call for action at Federal Buildings and FBI Offices.



We denounce the Federal Bureau of Investigation harassment of anti-war and solidarity activists. The FBI raided seven houses and an office in Chicago and Minneapolis on Friday, September 24, 2010. The FBI handed subpoenas to testify before a federal grand jury to eleven activists in Illinois, Minnesota, and Michigan. The FBI also attempted to intimidate activists in California and North Carolina.



This suppression of civil rights is aimed at those who dedicate their time and energy to supporting the struggles of the Palestinian and Colombian peoples against U.S. funded occupation and war. The FBI has indicated that the grand jury is investigating the activists for possible material support of terrorism charges.

The activists involved have done nothing wrong and are refusing to be pulled into conversations with the FBI about their political views or organizing against war and occupation. The activists are involved with many groups, including: the Twin Cities Anti-War Committee, the Palestine Solidarity Group, the Colombia Action Network, Students for a Democratic Society, and Freedom Road Socialist Organization. These activists came together with many others to organize the 2008 anti-war marches on the Republican National Convention in St. Paul.


We ask people of conscience to join us in fighting this political repression, as we continue working to build the movements against US war and occupation.



Take Action:


Call the U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder at 202-353-1555 or write an email to: AskDOJ@usdoj.gov.



Demand:



**Stop the repression against anti-war and international solidarity activists.



**Immediately return all confiscated materials: computers, cell phones, papers, documents, etc.



**End the grand jury proceedings against anti-war activists.





Plan and Support national days of protest at FBI offices or Federal Buildings, September 27 and 28th.



A demonstration has been called at the Minneapolis FBI Office Monday, 4:30, September 27th(111 Washington Ave. S.).



In Solidarity, the Anti-War Committee – www.antiwarcommittee.org
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 04:18 PM
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45. recommended, thank you
this would be very helpful as it's own thread!
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 09:15 PM
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46. didn't have the time today...
thanks again! :)
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