POLICE BRUTALITY - Cop Shoots And Kills Unarmed Man & The Family Dog

[DeSwiss]

Run time: 06:44 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIan_IwJJvs   Posted on YouTube: October 11, 2010 By YouTube Member: UrbanWarfareChannel Views on YouTube: 217   Posted on DU: October 12, 2010 By DU Member: DeSwiss Views on DU: 2211

 

[hlthe2b]

1. Subject line alone brings tears...

I couldn't watch, especially as I have my precious napping doggy girl lying right next to me. Well, they damned well better shoot and kill me too, if a cop were to kill my dog. I guess that is all I can say. :cry:

[DeSwiss]

6. I'm sure he'll say the dog was about to attack him.

What a POS.

[Liberal_in_LA]

2. Here's the news article

Phoenix police officer in fatal shooting arrested
by Michael Ferraresi and Dennis Wagner - Oct. 7, 2010 12:00 AM
The Arizona Republic


Elvira Fernandez said she called police to teach her son respect after she caught him throwing things at the wall of her south Phoenix trailer.

Fearing the 29-year-old would hit her, she went to a neighbor's house to dial 911.


Police fatally shoot domestic violence suspect

When Phoenix police Officer Richard Chrisman and another patrolman arrived in response to her domestic-violence call, she asked them to reason with her son. She expected they would issue a warning and cool things down.

Instead, about 15 minutes later, Danny Frank Rodriquez was shot dead inside the trailer. One of the family's dogs was also fatally shot.

And Chrisman now faces felony charges.

"I felt like I made the wrong choice calling the police," Fernandez, 60, told The Republic on Wednesday from a friend's trailer in the same complex where her son was killed Tuesday. "I regret it with everything in my heart."



Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/10/06/20101006phoenix-police-officer-in-fatal-shooting-arrested06-ON.html#ixzz12B91aRbC

[DeSwiss]

7. Thanks. n/t

[xchrom]

3. And the family dog. Nt

[YOY]

4. The Cop interviewed did not like being questioned.

He did not like the idea that a cop may have been shitty. He did not even want to beleive the word of the partner.

He did not like it.

Poor little tough guy. Sometimes you get caught being human and you cannot use the badge as an excuse.

[greiner3]

5. First off;

Why show the damn fox channel take on this? There are many TV stations in Phoenix that this story could have been taken from.

Secondly, Baseline and Central was sort of ghettoish 20+ years ago. I don't know what the demographics are now but damn this incident is typical of so many inner city confrontations with cops and minorities across the country.

[Xipe Totec]

8. Don't shoot the messenger

feel free to post alternate videos.

[DeSwiss]

9. I didn't pick the channel....

...and I don't live in Phoenix. I DO subscribe to the UrbanWarfareChannel on Youtube, and this is what they uploaded. Okay? Although I suppose one could argue that if such an act by the police angers even the Fox News, then that bastard must be truly whack when one considers their goosestepping police state standards of yore under W.

And as for this neighborhood as you describe it being "ghettoish" -- blood is still red no matter where it's spilled. And I don't really care to hear anything else you have to say on the matter.

Thank you.

[FluxRostrum]

10. That's What You Get When You Call the Cops

I'd call the cops IF my life were in immediate danger and I just happened to see some cops drive by..Then I might yell for them in hopes that my assailant would run... that's about all they're good for.

[DeSwiss]

13. Agreed.

The less you have police, or any other form of authoritarian in your life, the better off you are.

[DCKit]

31. +1 n/t

[Confusious]

11. I usually defend the police

They do have a hard job.

This guy should be fired for what said and did when he first saw the person, and probably charged with murder if an investigation finds he was at fault, which I can't see how they wouldn't find that. He did not deal with the situation well, and probably escalated it.

[DeSwiss]

14. I used to as well....

...but that was over 35 years ago. That's when I last worked along side the police when I worked as a counselor in juvey/young adult corrections. Hard job or not, if you can't handle the pressure you have no business doing it. It's a job that should be relegated to the best and the brightest. But what I learned and never forgot -- is that the police are filled to the brim with the authoritarian mentality. From the top to the bottom. And they ain't hardly the brightest, far from it.

- And that isn't good for any living thing.....

[Confusious]

16. I don't really think the best and brightest is the fix

more like finding people who can handle the stress without flipping out, like this guy.

Intelligence is no factor in determining who can handle stress.

[DeSwiss]

17. It is in solving crimes. n/t

[Confusious]

22. Yes, but detective is not the same as a beat cop

At least it's not on TV. :)

[DeSwiss]

23. And likewise the detective.....

...nor the beat cop may http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-10-11-1Acitizenpolice11_ST_N.htm">actually be a detective or a beat cop anymore either. IRL ;)

[Mortos]

12. Sounds like the backup officer may be forthcoming on this shooting

Domestics are the most violent and unpredictable incidents officers are called to. It is not unusual for them to escalate once officers arrive. It is also not unusual for the person calling the police to turn on them once it becomes violent.

We don't know all the facts around this shooting but based on the information given in the report, it seems the officer who shot may have used unnecessary force and may face discipline up to and including being charged with felony murder.

It's not an easy job and it's much harder for the good cops when bad cops get all the media attention.

[DeSwiss]

15. As long as police.....

...cover for each other, then the "good" cops deserve the publicity they receive when things like this happen. The police chief admitted that this guy had had previous disciplinary problems. That's significant in this case because the unknowing public's problem is that when there are other city employees with disciplinary problems, say, in public works or at the water company, they aren't usually walking around out there carrying lethal weapons, tasers and bludgeons which they are authorized to use. Cops should be held to a much higher standard to retain their "power of lethality."

So when the other "good" cops cover over or refuse to divulge what the worst of them do or have done, then this is the result.

For nine years someone knew this guy was bad news, and yet they never got rid of him. This is the standard and we all know it. So the statements from the other cop about this reprehensible behavior is the exception to the rule. So you know that it must have been blatant and totally unjustified if he couldn't somehow workout a lie for a brother in blue. His career is probably over as well. Yet we can be thankful to him because at least this bad egg will be removed from the force no matter what he is ultimately charged with. Although I have little hope that it will do much to curtail police brutality in-general.

- As capitalism bottoms-out and http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/11/civilian-police-recruitment-budgets-tight_n_758644.html">fewer and fewer professionals can be retained as budgets are slashed, it's more likely to only get worse.....

[12string]

19. The officer telling the truth

You better believe his career is over.That's if he wants to live.I'll bet that if he tries to remain on the force it wouldn't be long before he would get killed in the line of duty.The fact that he got it in the back during a routine call would probably be glossed over.He better get the hell out of state.

[DeSwiss]

20. Exactly. n/t

[dixiegrrrrl]

18. , a 16-year-old boy was shot 25 times after he brandished a butcher knife. No officer was charged

From same article.


Sheesh.

[DeSwiss]

21. We are living....

...in a Red, White and Blue police state.

Liberty nonetheless abounds in a totalitarian democracy. Open elections verify majority rule. The slaves are free to elect their masters, and that is enough to satisfy most folks in the land of the free. That, along with 100-plus cable channels to keep us entertained inside the cage. We know we are powerless, but better the devil you know than evil socialism, where you are not allowed to take out a second mortgage on your cage. ~ http://www.joebageant.com/joe/2010/06/live-from-planet-norte.html">Joe Bageant

~
Democracy, the modern world’s holy cow, is in crisis. And the crisis is a profound one. Every kind of outrage is being committed in the name of democracy. It has become little more than a hollow word, a pretty shell, emptied of all content or meaning. It can be whatever you want it to be. Democracy is the Free World’s whore, willing to dress up, dress down, willing to satisfy a whole range of taste, available to be used and abused at will. ~ http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0518-01.htm">Arundhati Roy

[dixiegrrrrl]

24. You have very good taste in writers, if I may say so.

[DeSwiss]

27. Thank you.

I owe it all to DU. This is where I first found them. ;)

[herbm]

25. Phoenix cops are the worst. Worse than Houston, worse than any in Alabama.

One Phoenix cop shot a fouteen year old who whipped out a comb to fix his hair when ordered to stop. Not even a slap on the wrist.

[DeSwiss]

28. In a police state.....

...cops killing civilians and getting away with it is "NORMAL."

- That's one of the main ways you can tell you're living in a police state.

[herbm]

32. Austin, used to be progressive and now shoots unarmed kids about four or five times a year, normaly.

[Uncle Joe]

26. Kicked and recommended for the OP and post# 21.

Thanks for the thread, DeSwiss.

[DeSwiss]

29. You're more than welcome (fellow Nashvillian!).....

...there aren't many who are prepared to accept the fact that we're in deep doo now. But we are. Joe Bageant in particular resonates the truth so clearly it's almost painful to read, even while one can't stop. As George Bernard Shaw said: "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it" -- Joe definitely gets it.

It ain't robbery, it's a business cycle

"The main feature of capitalism is the seductive assertion that you can get something for nothing in this world. That you can manufacture wealth through money manipulation, and that it is OK to steal and hold captive the people's medium of exchange, then charge them out the ass for access. That you can do so with a clear conscience. Which you can, if you are the kind of sleazy prick who has inherited or stolen enough wealth to get into the game. Even so, to keep a rigged game going, you must keep the suckers believing they can, and eventually will, benefit from the game." ~ http://www.joebageant.com/joe/2010/07/waltzing.html">Joe Bageant, "Waltzing at the Doomsday Ball"

[KansDem]

30. "Due process and civil rights"...for cops.

No one else need apply...

[DeSwiss]

33. I noticed that too.

The union guy cop stands there fudging his answers at the reporter's questions regarding how horrific this action was. He only wants respond to the idea that "his brother's" due process rights should be respected and how no one should be jumping to conclusions. Right.

All the while ignoring the fact that this man was UNARMED and therefore he failed to show just how such a deadly response was called for in these circumstances. The dead man's due process rights are obliterated, ignored and given short shrift. While the cop who murdered him and who has a history of disciplinary problems with the police, should be given the benefit of the doubt.

Unfortunately, I believe that as the economy tanks further and people are pushed to more and more extremes it'll just get worse.