Know Your Enemy: P.J. O'Rourke

[Charleston Chew]

Run time: 01:12 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znfS7tQzV4Q   Posted on YouTube: October 20, 2010 By YouTube Member: ForaTv Views on YouTube: 120   Posted on DU: October 20, 2010 By DU Member: Charleston Chew Views on DU: 1526

 
Conservative Comedy with Political Satirist PJ O'Rourke.

[meegbear]

1. I like P.J. O'Rourke, especially his early funny stuff

[Ken Burch]

2. You mean, BEFORE he switched from Maoist to Republican?

I've always regarded O'Rourke(and his sleazy scumboss Matty Simmonds)as the guys who KILLED the glory that was the National Lampoon.

Before they took it over, it was the magazine that published the "Vietnamese Baby Book". After they got their hooks into it, it bashed gays, women, the Rainbow and the poor(oh, and women a second time).

[timtom]

5. I'm pretty sure Matty Simmons

was right there from the beginning, at least before P J O'Rourke came on board.

[Ken Burch]

6. Not really. Tony Hendra had a big article about the history of the Lampoon

in Vanity Fair a couple years back(around the time of the publication of his book "Father Joe")and he said Simmonds didn't come in until the mid-70's or so. When he did, Simmonds enforced the dictum that the Lampoon should aim its humor at "the kind of guys who read 'Hustler'". The rest pretty much followed logically, and continues in a series of horrible movies that are still made, and go straight-to-video, under the Lampoon name.)

[herbm]

12. Matty didn't say "read" Hustler. Look at, drool over, spank the monkey to. But read? Never.

Bukowski and Philip K. Dick were about the only thing worth reading in Hustler. Or so I've been told.

[Ken Burch]

13. Maybe it was "SHOPLIIFT Hustler".

Anyway, it was SOMETHING you did with Larry Flynt's rag(and I don't mean his red-white-and-blue diaper).

[herbm]

15. Who had to shoplift? Someone had a goofball uncle in the basement who had a lifetime subscription an

d wore Army surplus. REAL Army surplus. And slept on a cot and drank Rock and Rye from a half quart. Poop. That mighta been me.

[Ken Burch]

18. OK.

And I don't think ANY of that would ever have ended up in the plotline of a "Wonder Years" episode.

(btw, I wasn't actually accusing YOU personally of shoplifting.)

[herbm]

23. And to think I made it this far without therapy or an arrest. They really were wonder years!

[timtom]

21. I stand by my statement.

http://www.heavymetalmagazinefanpage.com/history.html

"Simmons and Mogel were able to help with the Harvard Lampoon's next parody of Time magazine. It was looking to prove successful, so Simmons and Mogel thought it would be a good idea if there was a national version of the Harvard Lampoon magazine. Simmons and Mogel held another meeting on June 1969 with Hoffman, Beard, Kenny, and Jim Rivaldo, and the idea of National Lampoon was born. They got the rights from Harvard Lampoon to use the Lampoon name, and Hoffman, Beard, and Kenny signed on, and contracts were made (although not officially until February 1970). In Fall 1969 the Time parody came out, and it was financially successful."

[meegbear]

7. Some of his 80's books are tolerable ...

"Modern Manners" still cracks me up.

[Ken Burch]

3. ...and you'll notice that, even playing to an Old Right crowd like the S.F. Commonwealth Club

O'Rourke is bombing.

[lumberjack_jeff]

4. Yes PJ. Actually, shooting convenience store clerks does make more sense...

... than giving another tax cut to people in your tax bracket.

Among the reasons is that your tax cut requires cuts to education and social services, thus producing more convenience store clerk shooters.

The Republican solution is simply a roundabout way to get the kind of stimulus you suggest.

[tularetom]

8. PJ O'Rourke IS my enemy

He can singlehandedly make the Bill Maher show unwatchable with his cute little comments. Fuck him and the horse he rode in on.

He's a douchebag and he ain't near as funny as he thinks he is.

[Ken Burch]

9. O'Rourke is David Horowitz with punchlines.

Basically, he got mugged by a couple of black guys as a young lefty in Baltimore in the very early Seventies(apparently he thought being a supposed radical would get him a free pass from street crime) and he's spent the last thirty years blaming anybody who ever challenged white male hetero dominance of society for it. That's what it's all about with the Peej.

Why he blames gays and women for that is still a mystery.

[herbm]

10. PG is a more literate and house broken version of Dennis Miller.

[Ken Burch]

14. Miller was never as vicious as P.J.

And his swing right was more about opportunism-he saw the 'pugs getting dominance after 9/11 and thought he needed to aim his "jokes" towards the tastes of the rulers.

[herbm]

16. OH YES he has. Its just that PJ is so cold about it and Miller rants.

[democracy1st]

11. my first unrec in forever to hell with this repub! they don't like me and i sure as hell don't like

them!

[herbm]

17. What the hell is that about?

[urgk]

19. Every time he's on Bill Maher, I want to punch him in the face.

Especially when he starts his horsecrap about "It's not a pizza pie...it's not a zero sum game" as if having money doesn't mean you're more likely to get even more money; as if being poor doesn't mean you're likely to stay poor.

It may not be zero sum, but there are tremendous advantages to starting out with money. The people who have it tend to keep it.

[herbm]

24. Having it from ones parents and PJ did go to Harvard, makes it so easy to blame others for thier pov

erty. The Hell with ol' PJ. He was hippie enough in Boston to grow his hair long and smoke dope and boink hippie chicks, but not enought have any values.

[ProudDad]

20. The biggest problem with O'Rourke

is that he's not funny!

He thinks he's the right-wing's version of Lenny Bruce...

When he's actually an unfunny Phyllis Diller in drag (apologies to Phyllis Diller -- who's actually funny)...

[ellenfl]

22. well, that was a nice racist pile of dog poop.

we don't need p.j. here but thanks, i guess.

ellen fl