Judge calls for the DNA Database of every person in Britain

[lovuian]

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http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article2934322.ece

a senior judge called for the genetic details of every person in Britain, and all visitors to the country, to be added to the national DNA database. Critics warned that the "chilling" move would infringe privacy, be hugely impractical and have only a marginal impact on crime.
Downing Street and the Home Office, which have been accused of moving Britain towards a surveillance society, distanced themselves from Lord Justice Sedley's controversial suggestion without entirely ruling it out.

About 4.1 million samples are already on the database, almost 7 per cent of the population and far more than in any other Western country. Police can take DNA from anyone arrested, regardless of whether they are eventually charged.

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There was another guy who had a DNA Database ...can ya guess who???

[AX10]

1. One heck of a country that England is.

:puke:

[lovuian]

2. My gut feeling is Britain is the test ground for total control

of the population from cameras to RFID chips to DNA database

the NWO grip tightens on the populations rights

that a JUDGE called for a DNA Database just screams Government fascisim

and the Aryan rule returns

the Windsors are not Brits but Germans

[Diclotican]

4. lovuian

Wel, They was of german decent, more than 150 year ago... And Corporal Hitler was in fact never registered as a German zitizen, but as a ziticen of Meclenburg. And therefore elcteable to the Chanslery in 1933...

But it is scary what is happening.. even in UK, DAM I like to visit that country...


Diclotican

Sorry my bad engelish not my native language

[lovuian]

8. You are absolutely right Hitler wasn't German

but the Windsors

Prince Philip. Not only was he trained in the Hitler Youth curriculum, but his German brothers-in-law, with whom he lived, all became high-ranking figures in the Nazi Party.

The British monarchy, and the City of London's leading Crown bankers, enthusiastically backed Hitler and the Nazis, bankrolled the Führer's election, and did everything possible to build the Nazi war machine,

When Philip arrived at Hahn's school in Schloss Salem, it was in control of the Hitler Youth and the Nazi Party, and the curriculum had become Nazi ``race science.'' Hahn became an adviser to the Foreign Office in London, urging policies of appeasement based upon appeals to the ``centrist'' Nazis.

In fact, one of the central figures in the 1930s Nazi-British back-channel was Philip's uncle and sponsor, Lord Louis Mountbatten (originally, Battenberg, a branch of the House of Hesse). Until he was forced to abdicate, King Edward VIII enjoyed the full backing of ``Dickie'' Mountbatten. Through much of World War II, secret channels of communication were maintained between the British royal family and their pro-Hitler cousins in Germany, by Lord Mountbatten, through his sister Louise, who was crown princess of pro-Nazi Sweden. Louise was Prince Philip's aunt.


So there is this history of English Monarchy working with the Nazis

[CGowen]

9. Yes and Philip together with Prince Bernhard founded Bilderberg

Somehow this BBC article mentions his role in Bilderberg but hides how he was in the Reiter SS
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/749465.stm

Born in 1911 to German nobility, Prince Bernhard of Lippe-Biesterfeld was briefly a memebr of the German Reiter SS Corps. He claims he joined the SS to allow him to finish his university studies. He married Princess Juliana on 7 January 1937.

[Diclotican]

12. CGowen

I dont know about the Bildenberg.. What I know is to little to speculate over I guess..

But, it was a fact of life often in the pre-war german nobility that if you want to be part of the future, you have to be member of the SS.. The SS was not just the Totenkopfbande you think about as the guard in the KZ camps.. The SS was a fourflung organisation who in the fog of the "new german future" want to be seen as a new class of knights.. Reichfuhrer SS Heinrich Himmler had some grand plan for the organisation...

In a book I have, cant se to find it now;/ It was from the Accent of Hitler to the end, the nobility was fighting over emty titles, for the opportunity to "get a promotion" and so on.. SS was for the nobility in germany in the year up to ww2 just another organisation they have to suport, to get that nice little job... It was manditory to be member of SS or SA, if you want a public carieer.. In fact it was wished to be member of one of the twho organisation to not get fired all togheter.. It was many who was fired not becouse they dont work good enough, but becouse they dont was member of SS... If you was member, even just as a "paper-member" then you have some to say.. If not, you dont get that promotion or that salary hike...

Its simiary to the case in Iraq with all the Bath Party members.. Mr Bremes most stupid thing was to fire ALL sivilian servants who had conection or was a member of that Party. Even after the WW2 when the okkupaying forces in Vest-Germany was thinking about how to get the country to work again, they dont FIRE ALL who had a membercard in the diferent organisaition, or was member of the NAZI-party.. Even membership in SS was not to get peopole fired after WW2. But they have to be "de-nazificed" and it was a long leret to work on... And some was never that "democratic mindet" after the war anyway... But they was in the minority.. The was majority was tired of war, tired of the nazi-party, and tired of the violence.. They want peace, and was getting it too... And today Germany is a peacefull nation in the middle of Europe.. But everyone "know" what happend 60 year back..

Pro-consul Bremmer should have de-bathfised the iraq army and sivil servants.. And work WITH them to protect the border of Iraq.. Then Iraq maybee havent been in that mess it is today either..

Diclotican

Sorry my bad Engelish, not my native language

[CGowen]

13. here is more on him

...

Prince Bernhard first became interested in the Nazis in 1934, during his last year of study at the University of Berlin. He was recruited by a member of the Nazi intelligence services, but first worked openly in the motorized SS. Bernhard went to Paris to work for the firm IG Farben, which pioneered Nazi Economics Minister Hjalmar Schacht's slave labor camp system by building concentration camps to convert coal into synthetic gasoline and rubber. Bernhard's role was to conduct espionage on behalf of the SS. According to the April 5, 1976 issue of Newsweek, this role, as part of a special SS intelligence unit in IG Farbenindustrie, had been revealed in testimony at the Nuremberg trials.

When Bernhard left the SS to marry the future Queen Juliana, he signed his letter of resignation to Adolf Hitler, ``Heil Hitler!'' William Hoffman writes in his book Queen Juliana:

``Tensions were not cooled when ... Adolf Hitler forwarded his own congratulatory message. The newspaper Het Volk editorialized that `it would be better if the future Queen had found a consort in some democratic country rather than in the Third Reich.'|''

This is the man who recruited Prince Philip to eco-facism, but Prince Philip's Nazi roots had been laid much earlier.
http://american_almanac.tripod.com/naziroot.htm

I know that for example the Reiter SS was not regarded as a criminal organization by Nuremberg

Nuremberg Tribunal had excluded the Reiter-S.S. from its list of criminal organizations
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Becher

[lovuian]

14. I have German family there and they are the nicest people

Your right you have to be careful because people like Pope Benedict had to be part of the Party it was mandatory

I was just showing the connection of British Monarchy to the Nazis

the whole premise of the Jews extermination was to purify the Aryan race

DNA database could be use in the wrong hands to find the superior race

[CGowen]

15. Germany is on the wrong track, too

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h7ZsrRgOjItNfqW5YQ6SA2fXhonA


Germany Wants to Spy on Suspects Via Web

By MELISSA EDDY – 6 days ago

BERLIN (AP) — German officials on Friday defended a proposal to use "Trojan horse" software to secretly monitor potential terror suspects' hard drives, amid fierce debate over whether the measures violate civil liberties.

Interior Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble wants to include the measure in a broader security law being considered by conservative Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition government.

Schaeuble defended the tactic in an interview with n-tv television Friday, calling the ongoing debate "completely exaggerated," underlining that judicial approval would be required before the measures could be used. "It's about a few isolated cases."

Carried in e-mails that appear to come from other government offices, the software would allow authorities to investigate suspects' Internet use and the data stored on their hard drives without their knowledge.

Use of the government-produced technology for spying on terror suspects "will cover a serious and scandalous hole in our information that has arisen through technical changes in recent years," Stefan Kaller, a spokesman for Schaeuble told reporters.

[Diclotican]

17. CGowen

The US and UK government have spying on the whole world with the ECHELON SYSTEM for more than 20 year now.. Not supricing there..

This is just one more "try" from the government to find out what is happing in the 1000 houses around the cuntry i guess.. Its bad, verry bad but what to do.. Close down the computer and send lettes by snailmail?..

Diclotican

Sorry my bad engelish, not my native language

[Diclotican]

16. lovuian

The german I know, is not that "evil" if I have to say it.. And for the most part they are not exactly proud about the Hitler experimence when it come to it.. They often want to speak about some other stuff if that is coming up.. So I guess the old Allied forces was doing some good when they de-nazificed the whole country..

I do know about the "german conection" when it come to the Brithish Monarchy. But I do have a feeling that the current monarck and they familily is les than proud about that conection.. under the WW1, the familily name was shanget, becouse of the problems with "our cusin" Wilhelm as they called the german emperor..

In the middle year, between the ww1 and ww2 it was some problems in the familiy, the german after Hitler was taking controll have some appaling for the nobility not just in german, but in every country.. But even that, the current familiy wasent that happy about the german "Fhuerer".. And they was fighing as best they can under the war against the nazis.. So even as SOME of the familiy member was not "clean" the monarck and his familiy was not nazis even with theyr conection with the nobility in Germany.. Even our royal familiy do have some conection to german nobility, but that dosent mean our Haakon 7 was a nazi...

I are sceptic about the whole idea of ONE BIG DNA DATABASE. I it was "just to protect us against the bad peopole" then maybee. But no database in the world is secured for the goverment to do some ugly thing, if the goverment want to do it. Ore a extremist party are going to come to controll the goverment.. I doubt our world have coming that around to secure this type of database from extremisme..

Diclotican

Sorry my bad engelish, not my native language

[Mojorabbit]

3. This stuff

scares the crap out of me.

[cutlassmama]

5. The Texas Newborn Screening program tests

every newborn baby born in Texas for genetic diseases. They keep this information for 21 years. There are databases with the information on it. Prisoners DNA is also collected and kept on file, just like in this article. America has been doing this already for the past 20 years.

[ProfessorPlum]

6. Not to nitpick this too much

but DNA was not even known to be the genetic material in the time of the Nazis. And practical sequencing of DNA data didn't become possible until the widespread use of the polymerase chain reaction, in the 90s.

Of course, I'm troubled by a DNA database in Britain, and the Nazis did work hard on geneologies to figure out who was legally Jewish. And, I'm sure the Nazis would have wanted a DNA database, if such a thing could have been conceived of then. But to claim they had one is just wrong.

[lovuian]

7. I was just comparing that the Nazis were using bloodlines

for separating people into concentration camps... it was a comparison

Nazis were looking for the superior race Aryans and all others were to be made extinct or slaves

it had to do with bloodlines and he had records on everybody

A British DNA Database would store geneologies and bloodlines and only a select few would have access

What I was trying to do is show that this DNA database could be used wrongly as Hitler did with the Jews

[CGowen]

10. I just watched the first Season of "Life On Mars"; no PC's, no databases, no DNA in the 70's

It was just ~30 years ago.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0478942/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/lifeonmars/

[jabeguy]

11. DNA responds to emotions

There are hidden reasons why they would want this information. Although black-ops have already had consciousness technologies to by-pass all this need for physical sampling. So I am still curious why they want this information. Could it be to use radionic weaponry on the population for easier mind control?

Small article on DNA-emotional ties:
http://www.journeytherapists.co.uk/research.html

David Wilcock speaks of how DNA responds to emotion with RNA being blocked when we are angry, but not when happy:
http://projectcamelot.net/david_wilcock.html

Could it be they want us to be angry and reacting out of fear? I think so.

Namaste.