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celtics23 Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 11:27 AM
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TDPS: Tax cuts for the rich compromise will HURT Obama & Dems in 2012
 
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David: And by the way, on tax cuts, too, Barack Obama has got to get it together here. It is becoming more and more clear that maybe by January we will have a two-year temporary extension of the Bush tax cuts for the rich. Does anyone think that if you give a two-year extension in 2012, the Republicans won't campaign on it again? Name one Republican, Louis, who will say in 2012 if there is a two-year temporary extension, "Yep, we're all set now." We're not going to campaign on this now, because Obama said two-year extension, it was a compromise, we all agreed to it, we don't need any more tax cuts for the rich. We're fine with those expiring. Well, what Republican is going to say that in 2012? Can you think of one?

Louis: Well, maybe I could name one or two, but generally you're right.

David: I can't think of one. And it's no surprise that if you actually ask the public, "Do you favor tax cuts for the rich or don't you?" And you can word it however you want, you can say, "Do you favor repealing the George W. Bush tax cuts?" Word it however you want, people don't want that overall. And you know why? It's obvious why, because it is a policy of by the few, for the few. It is a policy which very few people want to put in place and control and propose, the members of Congress, and very few people benefit from it comparatively.

And again, we don't have to go through the economics of it, Louis. I mean, one dollar in food stamps creates $1.70 or so of total stimulus as it goes through the actual individuals who are buying the food, to the supermarket, up to the supplier, up to the growers of that food. $1.70 for every dollar of food stamps. And we're talking about Republicans saying tax cuts will drive hiring at small businesses? We've discussed this ad nauseum, Louis. Tax cuts do not drive hiring. Demand is going to drive hiring. And if you give tax cuts to the rich, the middle class and the poor won't have the money to buy stuff. It is not stimulating demand. I feel like we're just going over the same basic principles and we still keep hearing the same talking points from those in favor of maintaining these tax cuts, do we not?

Louis: Of course. And we'll continue to.

David: Especially if we give them the two-year, throw them the two-year bone.

Louis: Right.

David: Especially in that case we will continue to hear it.

Louis: I don't know why Obama's entertaining the thought.

David: I mean, I think there's a number of factors at play. There is... we could...

Louis: I guarantee it's got something to do with 2012.

David: If it does, he's playing it wrong, Louis, because this is going to go against him.

Louis: I know.

David: Maybe he's thinking, well, the way to maintain the tax cuts for the middle class is by maintaining the tax cuts for the rich, and it's all tied together, and then the Republicans will say, hey, we increased taxes for everybody. But that's not what actually is being discussed. Don't be talked into the idea that it is all or nothing on this issue, by any means, and there is just no... I'm telling you, this is not going to bode well for Obama, if this is the direction it goes. On Don't Ask, Don't Tell and on the Bush tax cuts, it is time for the president to just say enough is enough. Enough is enough on this one.

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qcmadman1 Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 11:31 AM
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1. Basic economics have nothing on Republicans NT
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tins0404 Donating Member (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 11:32 AM
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2. Great analysis...
...incredibly simple, but accurate.
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celtics23 Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 05:13 PM
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4. An Gop says simple is good, nuance is bad...
unless it goes against what they want.
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BanTheGOP Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 11:34 AM
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3. WE have the congress...USE IT TO RAISE TAXES ALREADY!!
If the repressive tax cuts for the rich, at the expense of the vast majority of progressive Americans are allowed to continue, we will die. Pure and simple. Not only should we expire the mechanism that has moved more Americans from relatively solvent to utterly hopeless financially, we need to repatriate monies from the rich back to the poor with healthy tax HIKES on the rich. Indeed, I would advocate a complete support of taking ALL their ill-gotten wealth back. It is only fair.
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