Leaked Video Clip Of bin Laden hits The Internet

[Flabbergasted]

Run time: 03:26 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cVlf_dT4wo   Posted on YouTube: September 07, 2007 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: September 08, 2007 By DU Member: Flabbergasted Views on DU: 2728

 

[Why Syzygy]

1. I don't think

this guy is even a native Arabic speaker. Sounds rather stilted, doncha think?

[whistle]

2. Do you think this is a phony? He sure looks pretty healthy to be Bin Laden

[Flabbergasted]

3. Sometimes I wish I could do voice analysis.

[Cleita]

4. I wish somebody could do it.

My hearing tells me that the voice is too strong to be Bin Ladens. I don't know any Arabic so I can't compare if it's the Arabic of Bin Laden or an imposter, but I remember in his earliest tapes he seemed to me to be more soft spoken and the pitch is different than in the later tapes after his Tora Bora escape. I think the Bush administration knows he is dead but isn't letting us know because being able to trot Bin Laden out very now and then suits their scare everyone agenda.

[knitter4democracy]

23. The voice sounds wrong to me, too.

Way different--different inflections and all. It's not him.

[dbonds]

5. Looks faked to me.

Did you see the opening graphics - someone had some nifty tools and still didn't do a good job with the OBL avatar.

[DianaForRussFeingold]

6. Bin Laden making the video ! Leaked to Youtube (better quality)

;-) Clip from Family Guy where Osama makes terrorist video :evilgrin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgYmWnHM2y4&mode=related&search= :rofl:

[Hyper_Eye]

7. Authenticity is hard to tell

Notice that OBL's picture becomes a still image around 1:05. The image does not move again after that. Also note that mention of Al-Maliki (sp?) comes after the image becomes still.

[Stump]

14. I also see it as odd

That the image becomes still around 1:05...what's up with that?

[alfredo]

27. I've seen similar things happen on other videos from youtube and other

souces. I wouldn't read much into that.

[soulcore]

28. Yes, You should read much into that.

The image of Osama become a still image, while the background, subtitles and voice continue as if nothing happened.

If you think this is Bin Laden you probably think the Big-Nose version of him admitting to the 9/11 attacks was him as well.

He's been dead a while now, we just need a boogey man. It's all spelled out in the PNAC.

[alfredo]

29. I wasn't saying that this is a real video, just saying online videos do do

that from time to time. Mark Fiore's videos are real bad. I guess it is a flash player thing.

You tube is flash video. (flv)

[soulcore]

30. I too am well aware that Youtube is a .flv

and the limitations that that comes with, mostly thanks to my interactive background.

The point was that his voice doesn't even match his lips, and that the translation and effects continue even after his video has frozen.

[alfredo]

32. You should also know that there are some sync problems

with youTube videos.

All I am saying is this copy of the video might be fucked up. Try to find a non youtube/Flv file to see if it acts the same.


I don't know if it is real or fake, and to tell the truth, I don't give a shit. A Pox on both their houses.

[Buzz Clik]

8. Fuck him. He should have been dead for years.

But "he is no longer a priority."

[Flabbergasted]

9. No Laden; No war on terror. No war; no money.

[DianaForRussFeingold]

11. I agree! "he is no longer a priority." video

I hate how we are being played! :grr: "Bush-Truly not concerned about bin Laden just SIX MONTHS after 9/11. In response to a reporters question, President Bush tells the world that he is "truly not that concerned" with catching the man who murdered 3,000 Americans just six months and two days earlier because "we've marginalized him."

Please note that he ALMOST says "I don't know where he is, nor do I... (really care)." but catches himself in mid-sentence.'

"He hides in caves while sending young people off to die."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PGmnz5Ow-o

[Warren DeMontague]

10. If that's Osama Bin Laden, I'm Jerry Garcia. nt

[dipsydoodle]

12. Reminded me of a

Punch and Judy show with no Judy.

[scarface2004]

13. he makes some excellent points...

would be a strong presidential candidate on the libertarian ticket!

[Warren DeMontague]

15. Um, "Convert or die" sounds more like the Republican Platform, actually.

:shrug:

[ossman]

16. Osama 08

I heard the Osama is for Civil Unions and NOT gay marriage. What a sellout. What about dont ask dont tell?

I really hope next week.. or tomorrow on the Sunday shows... that when the tolken GOP douchebag says how much Osama is like liberals, they point out how much the Religious Right mirrors the Taliban's social views. Its time for the Dem pundits to start pounding fists and yelling louder on air. Or they are really going to get away with this Osama=Liberals comparison

I totally agree about the validity of this video. Whats with his face? Its swollen and quite different. I smell a fake. Or fake voice over for sure. I cant remember what I saw this on, but they have the technology to recreate any voice. The documentary I saw they recreated Colin Powell's voice and made him say some un-Colin Powell things. Anybody else seen/heard about this?

[DianaForRussFeingold]

31. Only Un-American,Un-patriotic idiots Like Hannity would do that !

JFK Jr Speaks briefly on Gay Rights; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUKCIak8ANc&mode=related&search= ..Rumor has it... Al Gore was about to pick John Kennedy Jr. for his Vice President.... Imagine No PNAC Agenda!!! *AN HONEST ANSWER* DENNIS KUCINICH JULY 24, 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgreLLMbbZk Dennis voted NO: Patriot Act, Wiretap, War In Iraq, Corporate Welfare, Outsourcing Jobs, "Guest" Workers, Discrimination, and Tax Breaks for the rich!!
' Welcome To DU! '

[troubleinwinter]

17. Sometimes the mouth/lips seem in sync with audio, sometimes not. HAH. WTF.

[backscatter712]

18. Yeah, I smell a fake.

Not only does the video look off, but after reading the transcript, I've come to the conclusion it's designed to discredit liberals and Democrats in particular.

You really think Bin Laden would give a nod to Chomsky? He is/was an Islamic fundie!

[wildbilln864]

19. Yeah me too.

It looks like his sideburns have grown fuller and closer to his eyes and his hairline on his left also has grown covering more of his temple. Rogain maybe? :shrug:

[ossman]

20. George W. Impersonator

I'll tell ya, I just watched the Comedy Central Roast of Jeff Foxworthy and they had that W impersonator that is fucking spot on with the mannerisms and the makeup looks perfect. He looks more like Bush than the 2007 Osama remix does the 2004 Kickin it old school Osama.

This shit is just too perfect. The GOP noise machine is so effective they are gonna run with this shit. "You sound like Osama" "Na Na Boo Boo" If a terrorist agrees that microwaving infants is wrong, and you do too... your a terrorist!!

[ClintonTyree]

21. Bin Laden my ass....

if this is the best propaganda effort our national security organizations can fabricate it's no wonder they're getting their asses handed to them. And who knew there were recording studios in the mountains of Pakistan? :shrug:
Why do the cameras keep moving farther back each time one of these videos are shot? Pretty soon they'll be using a telephoto lens to shoot "Osama's" videos. You'd think he'd want to get his ugly mug as close to the camera as possible, for effect. But no, the cameras keep getting farther and farther away each time. It's almost as if he DOESN'T WANT his facial features to be subject to analysis. :sarcasm:
If that's Bin Laden, I'm George W. Bush.

[knitter4democracy]

22. That's so not him.

The nose and beard are wrong, the voice is wrong, the eyes are wrong, and the inflection's wrong. It's all wrong. That's such a fake.

[Cleita]

24. It's a pretty awful one isn't it?

I guess the CIA shouldn't have fired those gay Arabic speakers after all. The Regent University grads working at the CIA don't have a clue on how to doctor a phony video to make it at least seem authentic on first view.

[go west young man]

25. Compare the nose to the Bin Laden pics in this video clip and

you can tell it's definently not the same nose. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-8U81HBjrg

[go west young man]

26. Or go to 4:51 on this YouTube/CNN vid for a close up of the nose.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZMHjRYgNkk&mode=related&search=

[go west young man]

33. Full 27 minute Bin Laden video here:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bba_1189264533

[sce56]

36. Thanks for the link. Sure looks like someone dusted off an old video and re dubbed it

That would explain the dark beard to cover up the lack of grey from previous recent tapes! The frozen image with continued speech and CNN proclaims this to be a true tape not fake!
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/07/binladen.tape/index.html
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Early analysis indicates the voice on a recently released videotape is that of Osama bin Laden, a U.S. official said Friday, as President Bush called the tape "a reminder of the dangerous world in which we live."

Bull Shit!

add to that the recent lapse in US security of Nuclear weapons

And we are ready for a Dr StrangeLove moment in our short history

[wicket]

34. It doesn't look/sound like him, they aren't even trying anymopre

:eyes:

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

35. A blank background this time

--nothing to grab onto and compare to old videos RE location and re-use of old messages.

Anyone have any voice print software handy? I'm curious to see if the voice matches up. It's exceptionally clear in this one.

On edit: Here is a collection of earlier "messages" by OBL in case you'd like to do facial or voice comparisons.

http://www.liveleak.com/browse?q=bin+laden&s=Search+All