NYT Columnist Compares bin laden to "Lefties"

[Rose Siding]

Run time: 01:19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQhXQF81Fus   Posted on YouTube: September 08, 2007 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: September 09, 2007 By DU Member: Rose Siding Views on DU: 3052

 
"...it’s like {bin laden}’s been sitting around reading lefty blogs, and he’s one of these childish people posting rants at the bottom the page, you know, Noam Chomsky and all this stuff."

That's, um, us, I think.

I am so so so SICK! of preening tv stars like Bobo hurling hateful insults like this, all the while denegrating all who would dare to dispute him as "uncivil". Bastard. If you ever thought that sitting back and acting ladylike would save you from being linked to bin laden, think again. That's the very public opinion of a very mainstream, "moderate" voice -he's in the NYT, fer cryin' out loud!

How can any dem in Congress truly believe that they can work with anyone who wouldn't renounce Brooks' sentiment? If I NEVER hear the word compromise again it will be too soon.

The internet -and the voice that it has afforded people outside the beltway, especially on the left- will emerge as a terrorist-like enemy if the dangerous "middle" pushes this sort of attack.

Dear New York Times, It's my fucking country too; today, tomorrow, and waaaay back on September 11th. My country.




via Think Progress
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/brooks-bin-laden-blogs/

(edited to fix my subject line)

[frogcycle]

1. roger that!

[Cha]

2. Why can't someone

just compare brooks to what he really is?

Like Adlai Stevenson said.. “If the Republicans stop telling lies about us, we’ll stop telling the truth about them.”

They've been doin' this shit a long time.

[liberal N proud]

3. Yes!

[Octafish]

4. David Brooks is lower than whale dung.

He's not ignorant.

http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh010904.shtml

He's a professional liar.

[Hardrada]

5. He is another neocon who should be KEELHAULED

AROUND THE WHOLE FUCKING FLEET!!!

[scarface2004]

6. david brooks is a piece of hsit!!

and i mean that in a nice way!

[WorseBeforeBetter]

7. Well, that didn't take long.

I can hear the blathering on the Sunday morning crap shows now.

[Catherine Vincent]

8. What a lousy bastard.

The republican party must pay him well.

[noise]

9. Maybe the reason

Bin Laden's speech sounded like Democratic criticism was because it was GOP crafted propaganda. Would the GOP stoop to creating a fake Bin Laden tape in order to start another round of fearmongering and to suggest that Democrats and Bin Laden are on the same side? Without question they would.

GOP propaganda presents Americans with a false choice between Bush and Bin Laden. One can accept Bush's police state and war profiteering policies unconditionally or one is accused of desiring to live in an Islamist US under Sharia law.

I detest Bin Laden and I think Bush is corrupt and should be impeached. Uh oh. According to the GOP a 3rd option is impossible. One simply must choose between the two narrowly defined choices!

[spooked911]

19. Yes, no doubt the tape is US propaganda

Basically a CIA mind-f#$@k IMO

[krkaufman]

10. You can thank PBS and Jim Lehrer for continuing to give this discredited twit ...

... a platform from which to spew his nonsense.

I was most impressed w/ the "News Hour" the other night. They were supposedly having a discussion on Betrayus and the Iraq war, with Judi Woodruff moderating a panel of 4. I was so surprised that the panel makeup reflected the 75%/25% opinion ratio of the American public's view on the debacle. The fact that the ratio was reversed with public opinion surprised me less. It was Jan Schakowsky speaking against the war and our continued occupation versus Brian Baird and two other pro-war schmucks. Had the News Hour tried to reflect actual opinion, they would have had 3 voices against the occupation, rather than stacking the deck in favor of more death.

PBS seems to have learned nothing from their misleading us into the Iraq invasion.

[ProudDad]

21. It's not for nothing that they're called the

Petroleum Broadcasting System...

[Flatulo]

11. So where are the refutations?

bin Laden's screed did in fact echo a lot of far-left talking points about globalism and the excesses of capitalism.

The OP resents these comparisons, but post #9 (noise) claims the speech was crafted by the GOP precisely to MAKE these comparisons.

Which is it folks? It can't be both.

[Beetwasher]

13. wtf Are You Talking About? Flatulo? Indeed.

Your'e talking out of your ass.

Why cant it be both? It most certainly can. If this for instance IS Bushco. inspired/created propoganda (and it MIGHT be, though I'm not saying it definitely is), it WOULD be both. A propoganda tape of a supposed OBL spouting points the left would make, so idiots like Brooks could make precisely these types of despicable comments and comparisons. This is exactly what a psyops propoganda tape would do so the anti-war left can be compared directly w/ OBL.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out.

What exactly is there to refute? So what? So a person who is supposedly OBL is making points that sound suspiciously like points the left might make, and once again its release is PRECISELY timed to coincide so it can be used to further Bushcos. propoganda push about the war and instill fear. And of course, rightwing windbags are using it exactly as Buscho. would want them to. Gee, what a coincidence, yet another OBL tape that seems to HELP Bushco demonize the left during a critical juncture. Yeah, coincidence.

[Flatulo]

14. So you agree that bin Laden echos leftist positions?

The OP seems to be in denial of this.

[Beetwasher]

15. No

In this tape it seems as if this supposed OBL is echoing leftist positions. There's a big difference.

[Flatulo]

17. Ah, well, that explains everything. Thanks for clarifying.

[Rose Siding]

18. Why? If Ted Bundy said men should pee standing up

would *that* have to be refuted? The issue is the vilification of other Americans, not the remarks of a criminal.

[ProudDad]

22. The difference is that

the evils associated with "globalism" and the excesses of capitalism are base on fact and evidence...

These are NOT "talking points", they are the reality of our situation.

The GOP positions, the "philosophy" of the corporate capitalist masters are based on lies and myths... THOSE are "talking points"

[Flatulo]

24. So bin Laden (or the babbling head purported to be him) is right as

far as these issues are concerned?

If so, why is there such a reflexive recoiling from the observation that he agrees with leftists on some issues?

Sounds to me like Brooks speaks the truth, but it still strikes a nerve.

[sasquatch]

12. What a douche

Nice job Mr. McBobo.

[whistle]

16. These guys completely missed the fact that the tape could be a fake

...deliberately made to look like Bin Laden

[L0oniX]

20. Email Jim Lehrer an tell him you will no longer watch the show.

[ProudDad]

23. Too Late!!! (n/t)

[Rose Siding]

27. This FDL blogger has written a PERFECT letter to Lehrer about this-

Dear Jim Lehrer, About David . . .
By Scarecrow on Mon Sep 10, 2007 at 06:05 am
Dear Mr. Lehrer,

I’ve had this membership renewal envelope sitting in my “need to get to” pile, and because I’ve been a loyal supporter of my local PBS stations for decades — more or less since the 1960s and 1970s, when you and Robert MacNeil started PBS’ excellent news program, and then expanded it to a full hour — I would have taken care of that sooner or later. I think a public news programs that attempts to remain free of the ideological spin of its corporate owners is extremely important to our country. However, I’ve just moved that packet into the “probably not going to do this anymore” pile, and I wanted you to know why.

Your NewsHour has a segment in which you solicit the perspectives of a nominal Democrat and a nominal Republican, and I suppose that’s okay. As a Democrat, I respect Mr. Shields and can almost tolerate David Brooks when he gets depressed about what a mess his party has made of the country. It’s the only time he sounds sincere. And I realize that with PBS’ more ideologically conservative management these days, it was inevitable that having someone on your show who does little more than shill for the White House would be seen as needed to balance Mr. Shields’ defense of the Democratic point of view. After all, that is what Fox News calls “fair and balanced,” only they are far more blatant about it.

But then, I don’t send money to Fox News, so it’s a reasonable question whether I should be sending money to PBS to support NewsHour when it behaves the way Fox News does. You see, I know about Mr. Brooks’ comments on Friday night comparing liberal/progressive bloggers — I’m one of them — to Osama bin Laden. Of course, he was very subtle about it — he’s good at that — but the message was clear. And since you, Jim, are a good newsman, I know that you understand that the sliming of liberal bloggers is a common tactic of the right wing. If your staff has done its homework, you’ll also know that Mr. Brooks, who frequently carries the White House talking points onto your show, did not come up with this comparison all by himself. You know by now that this exact same comparison popped up on CNN, and Fox News and all over the right wing blogs — just as though it came right out of Ed “I’m the new Karl Rove” Gillespie’s propaganda mill.

So I’m sitting here wondering why I should send in my membership renewal. Although I expect David Brooks to be little more than a shill for White House talking points, I also know you frequently interject your comments on these segments, and you could easily have asked David to clarify whether he really meant that people like me are the same as people who engage in mass murder by flying airplanes into buildings, whether you think hundreds of thousands of Americans who regularly write, read and comment on progressive blogs really are fanatical religious zealots who think it’s okay to behead people to make a point, and whether you think I personally think it’s okay to plant road side bombs on Iraq highways to blow the arms and legs off American servicemen. But you didn’t say a word, except to compliment your guests on what a swell job they did. You just let Brook’s calculated slime slide onto your show, without a response.

So I’m thinking that if you want me to send in my membership renewal, you owe a lot a people a very sincere apology. You see, Jim, while Mr. Brooks was in prep school, I was in Vietnam; I’ve actually been in a war; Mr. Brooks can ask his friends to look it up: US54494387. And while I did help the US Army kill another country’s people just because my commander in chief said we should kill those Vietnamese “insurgents,” just as our servicemen are doing today in Iraq, I really wasn’t expecting my PBS station to insinuate that I and thousands of men and women like me who served and who also participate on progressive blogs are mass murderers.

I’d appreciate a response at your earliest convenience. Thank you.

Respectfully,
scarecrow

http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/09/10/dear-jim-lehrer/#comments

I'm in awe.

[L0oniX]

28. Excellent K&R

[bridgit]

25. Brooks has lost his feeble mind...

[Oilwellian]

26. I made sure to include Brooks...

in my latest video Pox Americana. He's been a vile piece of shit for a long time and helped lie us into this war.

[manomensa]

29. Emanual Goldstein is to blame!

For all of it!
http://www.youtube.com/v/24blx5Bg-x4

[Truth2Tell]

31. Holy Shit that was a funny video!!!!

Welcome to DU!! :hi:

[knitter4democracy]

30. Sooooo . . . If it's so different, couldn't it be faked?

I'm just sayin' . . . If it's so darn Western, if it reads like a "lefty blog", if it doesn't sound right, might it not be fake? If it doesn't sound like him, why believe it is him?

What a moran.