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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 05:23 PM
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Assange: Calls ABC Reporter a 'Tabloid Schmuck' & Exits
 
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Julian Assange leaves an ABC Reporter sitting in his own mess after he tries to swing stories of 'spreading legs' and other sexual descriptions into an interview. It is hilarious how the entire crew seems to walk away from the reporter, Jim Sciutto, after he starts to say 'I meant no insult by it...'

ABC - truly lookin' so classy.

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theaocp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 05:25 PM
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1. Scumbag is as scumbag does K&R n/t
Edited on Sat Dec-18-10 05:26 PM by theaocp
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 12:25 AM
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42. That PRESSTITUE got the smack down he deserved
Thank you, Julian!

Thank you for standing up to the American Whore Press. And thanks to the camera crew who walked off in protest.

The rest of the world knows that the American Main$tream Media are nothing but the lowest form of press whores.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 06:17 PM
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 05:29 PM
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2. Are there any real, serious journalists any more?
Or they all a bunch of complete morons?

You've got the most sought-after interview in front of you--and you act like a child.

:eyes:
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 06:50 PM
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7. Yes, there are...
The subject of that interview was one of the few of them.
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 07:02 PM
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11. OMG! +a brazillion! nt
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 10:24 AM
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127. Hear hear, Frisbee
kudos !
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 01:01 PM
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132. But there are NONE on M$M in USAmerica... (n/t)
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NYMdaveNYI Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 07:51 PM
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17. MOST SOUGHT-AFTER INTERVIEW IN THE WORLD OF JOURNALISM
moron.....

:banghead:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 10:08 PM
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molly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 12:43 AM
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44. Typical of US journalism
Jeff Gannon sat in the WH press corp for two years and nobody figured out that he wasn't a journalist. That he slept in the WH at times, and that he was a male hooker. Only difference , he was one of their own. Republican..fascist...whatever.

When the news covered all things monica and bill 24/7, we were told the news agencies had to make money so it was necessary to act like tabloid journalists. But in a very short time, that all ended. With g bush occupying the WH. Drunk while president..that was all covered up . Different standards for democrats and republicans. Or in the case of Julian Assange , those who would expose that the empire is wearing no clothes.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 12:48 AM
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46. Yep - imagine if a "Democratic" president "choked on a pretzel".
Edited on Sun Dec-19-10 12:49 AM by kath
ANd then there was Poppy Bush's affair, which was totally ignored.
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Joyce78 Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:57 AM
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55. George H.W. Bush and his affair
Her name was, I believe, Geraldine Fitzgerald. They were involved in an auto accident.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 05:07 AM
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57.  -- I remember Geraldine Fitzgerald --
Edited on Sun Dec-19-10 05:07 AM by defendandprotect
Poppy Bush seemed to select mistresses who looked just like Barbara Bush!

And then there is the long suspected bi-sexuality of W Bush and his college

"romance" with a male. There was also a case of a reported rape by W.

Those who looked into W's life soon found themselves under attack.

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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 02:40 PM
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98. And then there was the little abortion that Dubya arranged for his girlfriend.
Remember how CNN very quickly scrubbed a transcript of "Crossfire" when Larry Flynt mentioned this on the air?: http://archive.democrats.com/display.cfm?id=159

(BTW, this incident led to my discovery of DU -- while searching around for more details of this abortion, one link lead to DU. I may have heard of DU before, but after this started spending (too) much time here.)
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bengalherder Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 05:26 PM
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115. Its a common malady.
This place tends to suck people in. :)
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 12:29 PM
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81. Jennifer Fitzgerald, not Geraldine. Geraldine Fitzgerald was the vice presidential
candidate of Walter Mondale. Jennifer Fitzgeral was GHWBush's "aide" and many say his mistress.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 12:41 PM
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82. Geraldine Fitzgerald was a Hollywood actress. Geraldine Ferraro was the VP candidate.
Edited on Sun Dec-19-10 01:05 PM by valerief
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 07:54 PM
Response to Reply #82
121. That was a great sequence.
:rofl: :rofl: priceless.
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 10:09 AM
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126. Ooooppppss! However, I do remember GHWB being linked with romantically with a Jennifer
who worked as an aide to GHW while he was in China?
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 10:29 AM
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128. GHWB and son probably had many intimate diversions; the sort of things
that can drive many a wife to drink.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 01:37 AM
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124. Jennifer is correct ... but it's Geraldine Ferraro who ran for VP with Mondale ....
strange how you can get tangled up with names -- !!

Geraldine Ferraro - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Early life...|Family,...|House of...|1984...Geraldine Anne Ferraro (born August 26, 1935) is an American ... In 1984, former Vice President and presidential candidate Walter Mondale selected Ferraro to be his running mate ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geraldine_Ferraro - Cached
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nikto Donating Member (414 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 07:17 AM
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64. Exactly right, molly77...
What a neat and concise summary of Media hypocrisy & phoniness.

After the Gannon fiasco, I knew the lame excuse for the tabloid coverage of Dems
wasn't about "profit"--It was about being controlled, manipulated and SCULPTED to
ALWAYS help all things conservative, and to ALWAYS hurt all things liberal.

When you add to that the JOE SCARBOROUGH/LAURIE KLAUSUTIS coverup (young, beautiful, athletic dead girl found IN
a congressman's office, on the frikkin' floor with a head wound from a "fall". No investigation,
open-and-shut case by the Coroner. Meanwhile around the SAME TIME (or soon after),
the press goes apeshit with Gary Condit and the missing Chandra Levy--BULL!!!!!).

JULIAN ASSANGE IS FAR MORE TRUSTWORTHY THAN MOST OF THE US PRESSAND MEDIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS AND PROTECT JULIAN ASSANGE!!

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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 02:23 PM
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95. Thanks for mentioning Lori Klausutis - it's OUTRAGEOUS the way that one got swept under the rug.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 01:57 PM
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89. Assange should turn the next 'interview' like this around.
Edited on Sun Dec-19-10 01:59 PM by sabrina 1
He should ignore the smutty questions, then begin an interview of the MSM reporter on stories like the Jeff Gannon story. He should ask 'are you familiar with Jeff Gannon, fake reporter who sat in the WH Press for two years, lobbing soft ball questions at George Bush, called on by the President while real journalists were ignored?' If the schmuck objects, he should just continue, ask him if anyone in the U.S. media ever investigated who allowed this fake reporter into the WH press corps' etc. etc.

He has the world's media at his disposal now. He should interview the schmucks about the state of the U.S. media each time they try to do what this creep tried to do. Make use of them, show the world how inept, how compromised they are.

They will learn some lessons. If you ask a silly question for your corporate bosses, you risk being interviewed about some embarrassing things by a real journalist.

He should have a list of these events, the O'Keefe/Breitbart gang, who is behind them etc. to question the schmucks about. It would show the world, in case they are not already aware, the sorry state of journalism in this country when these idiots cannot answer his questions, or won't.

He could start having some fun with them, now that he knows what the game is. Turn the tables on them, expose them to the world. It would make headlines everywhere and totally embarrass the fools and their corporate bosses. And he should do it with a smile. From now on he should anticipate these kinds of questions, as this is what the MSM is being instructed to do, to highlight the phony, most likely U.S. orchestrated smear campaign against him. And he should put it to good use.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 10:45 PM
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123. Absolutely brilliant.
I have little doubt that such a little nudge as this would be something that would remind him he's on the offensive.

I usually pride myself on thinking of such things. I'm just glad that someone is ahead of me where I lag behind.

Now... how to get in touch with him...
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 01:40 AM
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125. k/r
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 02:00 PM
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90. flashback time
I wrote this in 2002

Scandals and Lies

March 29, 2002

"If we understand the mechanism and motives of the group mind, it is now possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will without their knowing it." - Edward Bernays, a nephew of Sigmund Freud, America's No. 1 Publicist in the 1920's

When is a scandal not a scandal? When a scandal appears to be connected with a member of the Republican Party, it is not reported as a "scandal." Only when a member of the Democratic Party has involvement in anything that broaches the questionable grey area is something "determined" to be a "scandal."

After an eight year-long investigation of William Jefferson and Hillary Clinton was concluded with "no evidence," it is still reported as a "scandal." That $70 million in taxpayer dollars and untold hours were devoted to finding something, anything, to throw at the Clintons has shown that there was nothing to throw. The media (and I mean the major corporate media) still consider it to be a "scandal." One that just won't go away. One that has to be lied about and drummed constantly into the psyche of the American public until something resonates. What is resonating are the words that have been repeated endlessly until almost everyone can recite them verbatim.

But let me tell you what was not a "scandal."

There was no "scandal" when Republican President George Herbert Walker Bush pardoned Caspar Weinberger with an indictment filed against him, thus avoiding any questions regarding the involvement of that same Republican President in the Iran-Contra Affair. There was no "scandal" when a partisan court appointed the highest elected official in this country.

There was no "scandal" when an intern was found dead of mysterious causes in Florida Republican Congressman Joe Scarborough's office. There was no "scandal" when Republican Mayor Philip Giordano of Waterbury, Connecticut was caught and charged as a sexual predator of young girls.

There was no "scandal" when the Republican President George Walker Bush nominated Theodore Olson (investigated for obstruction of justice and lying to Congress during the Superfund investigation) to the office of Solicitor General. There was no "scandal" when Florida Governor Jeb Bush's daughter, Noelle Bush, was charged with felony fraud in obtaining a controlled substance.

There was no "scandal" when Republican President George Walker Bush's daughters, Jenna and Barbara Bush, then 18, were convicted with using illegally obtained and false identification to obtain alcohol. There was no "scandal" when Mark A. Grethen, a Republican activist, nominated for "Republican of the Year" was convicted and is serving a more than 20 year sentence in prison for six counts of sex crimes involving children.

There was no "scandal" when Wendy Gramm, the wife of prominent Republican Senator Phil Gramm, approved illegal partnerships and waived the code of ethics for those partnership formations while on the Board of Directors of Enron. There is no "scandal" when Kenneth "Kenny Boy" Lay (Enron and Lay contributed $2.16 Million to Republicans in the 2000 election cycle) the largest contributor to the sitting Republican President, George Walker Bush, currently being investigated for leading one of the largest American companies, Enron, into bankruptcy following fraudulently filed earnings reports.

There was no "scandal" when Enron was allowed to price-gouge consumers and the sitting Republican President George Walker Bush refused to allow the Federal Energy Regulatory Committee (FERC) to impose price caps to control excess profiteering. There was no "scandal" when the current sitting Republican President George Walker Bush appointed Elliott Abrams (convicted of lying to Congress about the Iran-Contra affair) to the Human Rights Commission of the United Nations.

There was no "scandal" when John Ashcroft, the current Republican Attorney General, spuriously gave a "reprieve" and discontinued the lawfully entered agreement for damages to The Adams Mark Hotel, owned by Fred S. Kummer Jr, a personal friend and $25,700 senatorial campaign contributor, for charges of serious violations of racial discrimination.

There was no "scandal" when key figures, John Negroponte (complicit in the Honduran Death Squads), Richard Armitage (linked to illegal arms transfers and CIA drug-running operations), Otto Reich (propaganda operative), John Poindexter (convicted of conspiracy {obstruction of inquiries and proceedings, false statements, falsification, destruction and removal of documents}; two counts of obstruction of Congress and two counts of false statements) of the Iran-Contra Affair have re-appeared in official governmental positions by appointment by George Walker Bush, the sitting Republican President, the son of the former Republican President, George Herbert Walker Bush, for whom these men worked.

There is no "scandal" when the current Republican Vice President Richard Cheney refuses to release what should be public records of meetings held in the formulation of public policy (The Energy Policy) after being ordered to do so by three Federal Judges (U. S. District Judge Gladys Kessler, U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan and U.S. District Judge Paul L. Friedman). There is no "scandal" when the personal fortune of George Walker Bush, the sitting Republican President, is being bolstered by governmental war contracts to The Carlyle Group, partially owned by his father, former Republican President, George Herbert Walker Bush.

The only exception to this "scandal" rule that you will be able to easily recall is the Watergate scandal presided over by Republican President Richard Milhouse Nixon, who was forced to resign his office in disgrace.

Don't worry about those "scandals," you know the "liberal" major media corporations (Rupert Murdoch of FOX - $30,033 to RNC... AOL/Time Warner/Walter Isaacson of CNN - $6,150 to RNC... GE/Jack Welch of NBC - $160,350 to RNC... Disney/Michael Eisner/ABC - $208,052 to RNC) are surely going to tell you every "scandal" that they want you to know.

They do not want you to remember Republican "scandals." It makes it easier to demonize Democrats. They do not want you to look around. They do not want you to question their version of the news. There are only Democrat "scandals". You can recite them as easily as you can recite the Pledge of Allegiance: Whitewater. The Blue Dress. Chandra Levy. Chappaquiddick. You know the drill.

As citizens of this once great country, we must demand the truth from our media. We must demand the truth from our politicians. We must demand our country back. Each of us, you and I, has that power and the right to make these demands. Call your local television station. Write your representatives. Our voices must be heard. And we must hear the truth.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 02:44 PM
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100. Great essay! Thanks for posting it here today.
The ol' IOKIYAR thing just goes on and on and on...
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 07:59 PM
Response to Reply #90
122. That article really holds up well.
Fuck the Media.

Long live truth.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 11:50 PM
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39. Yes, John Pilger. Unfortunately no-one in the US seems to know who he is
See here for his latest observations on what's happening to Julian: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x37727
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Swagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:47 AM
Response to Reply #39
54. yes-Pilger one of the world's best
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bengalherder Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 05:31 PM
Response to Reply #39
116. Some do.
I had a funny experience, trying to sell some books at a garage sale. There was a very liberal lady who seemed interested in the political stuff I was selling...until she found the Pilger book. Her face got red and she accosted me, "How DARE you sell such trash to other people! This stuff is just <face screwed up suppressing the naughty word> BULL" and she walked away with nothing.

Some just don't wanna hear the real truth if it makes 'em uncomfortable.

Go John, Go Julian!!!!
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Can of Whoop-ass Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 01:49 PM
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87. Oh man,
The network of Peter Jennings! They've sunk to Bill O'Reilly's trashy level. How soon will ABC condone a doctor's murder and have a hand in it like FOX?

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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 12:59 PM
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131. There are NONE on "mass media" since Moyers retired and
the Propaganda Broadcasting System took "Now" off the air...

The rest of what passes for "news" in USAmerica from MSNBC to faux is all at the level of this bullshit...
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 05:34 PM
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3. I would love to see more people doing this
walk away from the tabloid press. Assange no matter what people think of him, will not stoop to their level.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 08:36 PM
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25. My thoughts too.
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pezDispenser Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 11:28 PM
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36. I agree
and I'd like to see it the other way as well. If you are the interviewee, and continue to give nonanswers to real questions. In these cases, I'd like to see the interviewer close up shop and move on.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 05:12 AM
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58. Right -- it's what everyone should be doing -- put the TV in the closet -- !!
Edited on Sun Dec-19-10 05:13 AM by defendandprotect
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 02:04 PM
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92. You mean like Sharron Angle did?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/27/angle-ill-start-talking-t_n_774920.html

Yea. That's a great idea. Lets get our public figures in the habit of refusing to talk to the media or answer any questions. What could possibly go wrong?
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 05:36 PM
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4. That was fantastic.
The guy was a Class A Asshat!
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 05:45 PM
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5. That was funny.
:rofl:
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sulphurdunn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 05:59 PM
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6. When someone shows contempt
for American Corporate Media it caves faster than Democrats standing up to Republicans.
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zehnkatzen Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 06:59 PM
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8. And the tradmed wonders why we don't respect it any more. k/r
I'm sure that sorry excuse for getting insight isn't actually taught as journalism these days …

… is it?

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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 07:02 PM
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9. What a stupid question and what an appropriate response.
The specifics of the accusations had nothing to do with who, according to Assange, was being pressured. Assange saw what was going on and wouldn't participate in it. Good for Assange.
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molly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:40 PM
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107. The question was waay out of bounds. Reflects badly on ABC
Since when have so called reporters spoken to a public figure in this manner? I can't recall one single incident. It shows the ball is in Julian Assange's court. He is a true hero to democracy.
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Grinchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 07:02 PM
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10. It's pretty clear that Assange has read the works of Edward Bernays, and took appropriate steps
Many people do not see that the way the question was presented was crafted to be venal and destructive, and then broadcasted to death, just like Howard Deans Death Holler when he was campaigning for President years ago.

The general populace has no clue about these Propaganda technique designed to trigger the hidden shadows lurkning in the subconcious.

Assange was appropriate in his response, and more people show walk away, but instead, they stand there letting their ego tell them that this is their 15 minutes of fame and withstand rhetoric designed to make them look bad, regardless of the outcome.

Of course, the reporter is from Disney, the Biometric loving, TSA hugging, Message Parroting organization that ran with 9/11 and went to bed with Bush in a Heartbeat. They are the ones that present sophomoric stories of jealously and blame to millions of children every day, it's not out of the ordinary to see this type of thing from them, as a key component of the Lamestream Media.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 07:09 PM
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12. couldn't have put it better with months of trying - +!!!!
right on the money
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Grinchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 07:34 PM
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15. Too many typos, but the message is still there - Thanks
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 07:58 PM
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21. +100K
:thumnbsup:
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 11:21 PM
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35. You got that right
Didn't miss a thing.

Good for Assange.

Leave them in the dust.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 07:02 AM
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63. well said
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 10:03 AM
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75. Oh please! What do Disney's animated films have to do with this?
"They are the ones that present sophomoric stories of jealously and blame to millions of children every day,"

I fail to see:

a.) how Disney's animated films are "sophomoric stories of jealousy and blame"

and

b.) what is the connection with lousy journalism by ABC

And yes, I know the Disney Corporation owns ABC. Let's remember Assange also walked out on a CNN interview. To say lousy journalism is exclusively beholden to ABC and Disney is to blame for that, is ludicrous.
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Grinchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 01:51 PM
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88. I did not single out just the animated films..
Edited on Sun Dec-19-10 01:52 PM by Grinchie
There are many fine pieces of work in the theatrical realm that have reasonable drama and conflict.

What I refer to is an ongoing representation of sibling rivalry, jealousy, greed, brain dead dad, brain dead mom that is pumped across the airwaves on the Disney Channel every day.

Believe me when I tell you that the Disney Channel does not present Pinnochio or Alladin on the cable outlets.

ABC is owned by Disney, and so is Clear Channel, home to Rush Limbaugh in case you were not aware.

I suggest you sit down and actually watch the offerings of the Disney group that caters to children and see for youself, instead of emotionally defending a Megacorporation that happens to have some fine products from the legacy vision of Walt Disney himself.

I grew up with Disney before it turned into Marketing instead of Message. I have seen the changes over the decades, and have seen them change a great deal -- to the point that I will no longer spend money on their product, or go out of my way to vacation at WDW or Disneyland Resort.

But, I have to hand it to them in regards of information, as their ticket prices are a good indicator of True Inflation, and as they ratchet the prices up year after year, the Government numbers look more and more contrived and silly.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 04:30 PM
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112. Hurray for Julian!
That said, I agree w/ you about the Disney brand. They've priced themselves right out of our lives. I paid $150 to get myself, my daughter and my 10 year old grandson into Disneyland 6 years ago. They had 92,000 people there that day. In 8 hours, we only got to take grandsonny on FOUR rides! They overcharged and overcrowded the park to where it's no longer worth going! Nice legacy for Walt, huh?
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 05:17 PM
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114. Agreed, except Alladin...
Go back and look at the opening credits, the song about bloodthirsty Arabs who will slit your throat for fun, etc.
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Grinchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 12:50 PM
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130. Just a little over the top, but the "Diamond In the Rough" meme is a good message.
Technically, Alladin is a fine film, great music, entertaining, interesting humor -- all fine things that counterbalance the ridiculous Disney Villain that has become a mainstay of the Good vs. Evil shctick that Disney has patented for their Trademark.

If it were available on Netflix, I'd watch it.. But Disney is so stingy.

I've always wondered what the cost of electricity is for Disneyland for a 24 hour period. Add to that all the maintenance of the whirring gizmos, motors, light bulbs and infrastructure.

While I will always admire what Walt was able to accomplish, the direction that the Company took with Eisner was disturbing. His infatuation with controlling the message to the point of buying ABC and Clear Channel, as well as a somewhat Schizophrenic approach to the Gay market vs the Bible Belt. At least they attempted to cater to the Gay crowd, but it seemed only in the pursuit of filling the parks with more consumers and not a real concern with the social aspects.

As far as this topic is concerned, I still think that ABC is a card carrying member of the Lamestream Media that takes its message from the Government when told to.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 01:41 PM
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140. What about Pixar's (= Disney's) contribution to the "It gets better" campaign?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a4MR8oI_B8

Eisner's rule at Disney's had its good and bad sides. He got the company back on the right track; got them back on tv (with shows like DuckTales and Darkwing Duck); oversaw the making of new classic films (Beauty and the Beast; nominated for Best Picture). But then he went to the Dark Side (the endless line of sequels; the ridiculous Princess merchandise) and the late Roy Disney had to start a campaign to get Eisner out again.
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Grinchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 02:28 PM
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142. Funny you should say this - The Stockholders Loved Eisner
I recall sitting next to the famed Richard Sherman, songwriter for Disney at Alfredo's of Italy at Epcot about 10 years ago. He was very Jubilant and happy about Eisner, even though Eisner had already started diluting the Brand, such as redesigning the Swiss Family Treehouse in Disneyland to market the animated film Tarzan.

I lamented about how the ingenuity and creativity presented in the original attraction was lost by the rebranding, where they replaced the sets with fiberglass gorillas and TV screen, where it used to represent the comfy dwelling made by the family Robinson.

He said things change, and that as long as the money kept rolling in, he was happy. (Paraphrase - I can't remember exactly)

Regardless of his take on Eisner, meeting the songwriter for the Tiki Room, Mary Poppins, Chitty Bang Bang, and Winnie the Pooh was the treat of my life.

Heffalumps and Woozles's come in One'zles and Two'zles...

I wonder what he thought about the "New" Tiki Room: Under New Management...

I still follow Disney quite closely due to it's importance in shaping so many lives. Everyone needs to pay attention.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 01:35 PM
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139. The line you're referring to has not been heard since the theatrical release...
On all home video outlets, the line "Where they cut of your ears, if they don't like your face" has been replaced with "Where it's flat and immense and the heat is intense .
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 01:34 PM
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138. "I grew up with Disney before it turned into Marketing instead of Message"
Me, too. It was my fault for assuming you were only talking about the classic animated movies. I simply don't have the Hannah Montana/Jonas Brothers/Princess merchandise on my mind when I think of 'Disney'. I was not defending that, nor will I ever defend Disney as a corporation. I've been hissed and boo-ed at on many a Disney forum for bringing up the way it operates in the Third World.

So, I think this was simply a case of miscommunication between the two of us. :)

But on one thing we differ. I still love their animated films, and I saw 'Rapunzel' in the theater this weekend. It's really a good movie, and I'm not going to let that slip because the journalism of their subsidiary ABC sucks like all the other journalism sucks.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 02:08 PM
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94. Yes, Assange rightfully walked out on another tabloid
schmuck and was applauded for doing so around the world. He is demonstrating more clearly than all our complaints about the state of our media, just how bad it is.

You might want to think twice before defending Disney. Not so long ago they were boycotted for one of their media rightwing moron's racist attacks on President Obama during the campaign. Disney refused to apologize or to end the racism of these attacks. Do a little research on Disney, you might find that it is not a Corp. that is deserving of any kind of defense.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 01:18 PM
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136. I don't defend Disney as a corporation; I'm asking a simple question...
One that you didn't answer. What do their animated films have to do with the lousy journalism of one of their (many) subsidiaries?

The animation department is the core of the company and does not have any ties with their thousand other branches, including their 'journalistic' branch. Do you really think their animators are involved in what the news division of ABC does?

So again, I ask: what's the use in slamming Disney's fine animated classic films?
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:41 PM
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108. Dutch.... red herring... oooooooh, I see what you did there.
Edited on Sun Dec-19-10 03:41 PM by liberation
LOL
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 05:13 PM
Response to Reply #75
113. I think you misunderstand what Grinchie meant about Disney, ABC and Jim Sciutto (Tabloid Schmuck).
Edited on Sun Dec-19-10 05:15 PM by JackRiddler
Grinchie noted some of the other products put out by the vast media conglomerate that owns ABC, Disney and advanced the opinion that many Disney-brand movies and TV series push "sophomoric stories of jealously and blame to millions of children every day." One can disagree with this opinion. I happen to agree, and see the infantilization of thinking that Disney (alongside other media companies) advances as contributing to creating an adult market in which tabloid schmucks (like Jim Sciutto) can spread their own form of poisonous discourse.

Grinchie presumably saw a similar spirit to Mr. Jim Sciutto's (Tabloid Schmuck) in the kind of demonization of, say, Arabs in the Disney film Aladdin, or of the enemy-figures in a variety of Disney products.

But there was no suggestion of a causal relationship or single plan behind the two products put out by branches of the same company.

Nor did the poster in any way imply that "lousy journalism is exclusively beholden to ABC," which is a bizarre reading on your part, although of course "Disney is to blame" in significant measure for the lousy journalism produced by its ABC subsidiary and its employee, Jim Sciutto (Tabloid Schmuck).


PS - Kids, Hannah Montana wants you to type this every time you feel like it:

Jim Sciutto Tabloid Schmuck Jim Sciutto Tabloid Schmuck Jim Sciutto Tabloid Schmuck.

.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 01:27 PM
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137. Thanks for your reply; I partly agree...
Where the miscommunication happened:

When I think of 'Disney', I don't think of bad series like Hannah Montana, Jonas Brothers (the three geeks with the abstinence-rings) and all the other horrible, corrupting series on Disney Channel, aimed at teenagers. (Or all the Princess merchandise.) I just don't think of them, because they're not on my mind. When I grew up, none of that junk existed. 'Disney' was seen as a company that made high-quality animation that even adults could enjoy; and the Disney Channel showed mostly vintage stuff from Walt Disney's days.

So, yeah, I can see how people nowadays think of that teen crap when they read 'Disney'. But, ironically, this has come back to bite Disney in the ass, because their last film 'Princess and the Frog' didn't perform nearly as well as their classic 1990's films, and that is due to the public perception of 'Disney'. They changed the title of their recent film from 'Rapunzel' in 'Tangled' in order to avoid associations with princesses and to draw in more boys.

But remember that Pixar is also owned by Disney, and nobody would call their films childish. Remember 'Wall-E', their plea for conserving earth's nature/environment?
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Grinchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 02:16 PM
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141. I know exactly how you feel - I used to feel the same way
I grew up with Disney, and I used to own Disney stock even! Those were the heady days before the DotCom bust, 9/11, Enron etc..

I absolutely thought that due to the millions of die hard fans would be self sustaining, but I was wrong. Seeing the immediate implementation of TSA baggage search was disturbing to say the least.

And yes, WALL-E contains possibly the most scathing critique of Humanity I have ever seen, because it almost takes our disrespect for the Earth almost verbatim. Unfortunately, I think the message is lost on many Americans who write it off as just another piece of Frivolous entertainment and Eye Candy.

I see more Pixar in WALL-E than I do Disney influence, and I'm surprised they were able to get away with such a message, but it's that independance that makes the film such a gem.

WOuld you consider the Pixar movie "Cars" childish? I know I do. I couldn't even watch more than 10 minutes before I shut it down simply because it focused on noise and the Nascar crowd. Yet, this was very popular with most of America, so I guess I'm one of the minority that doesn't think Nascar is productive or all that important for humanity or the environment.

If I wanted to watch a blood sport, give me the Coliseum in Rome. No unburnt hydrocarbons, no exploding vehicles or technology.. Just men duking it out with their own skill and strength.

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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 08:55 PM
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143. I turned off 'Cars' pretty early in the film...
The subject matter just didn't speak to me. I think it's the only weak link in the string of Pixar successes. And now there's a sequel coming out (sequel-fever caught from Disney?). Walt Disney had a very cute 7 minute cartoon about a blue car named Susie, you remember that? I liked that, but I hated 'Cars'.

Pixar is very different from Disney, but both their animation departments are headed by the same guy for the last couple of years, John Lasseter; the same guy who ordered an immediate halt to all direct-to-dvd sequels to Disney Classics. Maybe Disney will be on the right track in a couple of years?
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 03:21 AM
Response to Reply #137
144. Interesting and agreed.
I'll add merely that Pixar was acquired by Disney after it achieved its success and is not a Disney start-up.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 02:01 PM
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91. Exactly. nt
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 07:13 PM
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13. ^^^What you all said ^^^
K&R
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 07:17 PM
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14. Perfect response.
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Tanelorn Donating Member (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 07:49 PM
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16. JA was nodding ,thinking of a response then 'journalist'(sic)
kept going and goading.

JA left with dignity (unfortunately)

Asshat
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Tanelorn Donating Member (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 07:53 PM
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18. Was it really that cold or was the crewman in the yellow coat all
rugged up to avoid being recognised and associated with this
appalling show.
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axollot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 09:33 AM
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70. The UK has had record low temps and cold this year. The yellow
Edited on Sun Dec-19-10 09:42 AM by axollot
that I saw (I'll look again) looked like what police and other rescue wear. Not sure who they were tho.

Cheers
Sandy

Edit to add I paused it several times, still look like 1st responder jackets but who knows. I see the one guy you mention LOL
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axollot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 09:46 AM
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72. *waves* to fellow Queenslander in the US now. n/t
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 07:53 PM
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19. Now there is a fine example of telling the truth from Assange. Go,
Julian.
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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 07:54 PM
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20. who is this Jim Sciutto jackass?
does ABC put him on regularly?
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 08:22 PM
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24. Jim Scuitto is an American journalist. He is ABC News' Senior Foreign correspondent, based in London
Jim Scuitto is an American journalist. He is ABC News' Senior Foreign correspondent, based in London

1992 graduate of Yale University.

joined ABC News in 1998, working in Chicago before moving to Washington to cover the Pentagon

http://redpres.forolatin.com/noticias-destacadas-en-la-portada-f1/wikileaks-que-danos-ha-causado-t551.htm
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 09:03 PM
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26. What?!?
Graduate of Yale University?! Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

Poor wee mannie doesn't seem capable of thinking his way out of a paper sack...
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 10:13 PM
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30. Many of our "news people" today are children of the oligarchists looking for a sweet job. Daddy
pulls a few strings and they are on the air. Fuck them.
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molly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 12:45 AM
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45. Tucker Carlson
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 10:33 AM
Response to Reply #26
78. try harder next time
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suzanner Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 10:31 PM
Response to Reply #24
32. Yale?
Then probably also c i a wannabe or is. Read Family of Secrets (Russ Baker)
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 11:38 PM
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37. and he completely blew it
Maybe ABC should demote him to "junior entertainment/gossip hound". schmuck indeed
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 01:05 PM
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133. "moving to Washington to cover the Pentagon"
That explains a lot. The mind-set at the Pentagon is a virus...

As for Yale, I seem to remember the last pResident was a "graduate" of Yale...
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 08:16 PM
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22. What do you expect from a network
that has Diane Sawyer for an anchor.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 02:08 PM
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93. +1 (and how DOES she report the news and make it to all of the cocktail parties?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 08:19 PM
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 09:31 PM
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27. Assange has a lot of class, actually.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 10:26 PM
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31. "sitting in his own mess"!
:rofl:

Trust you to come up with one of the funniest and most apt video synopsis of 2010!

:rofl:
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 11:20 PM
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34. ...
ur back... last I remember you were thinking of whether to sleep or stay up after nearly no sleep - hope it wasn't a rip van winkle moment. Seriously, I only suggested an hour nap... :)

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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 12:30 AM
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43. ~~~
I remember that sage advice you gave and I took both choices. I had a coffee but it didn't work and I was so exhausted I had what was supposed to be a nap, but ended up falling asleep on and off for about 3 days anyway, lol.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 01:13 AM
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47. ---

All the videos you were sourcing were helping show what was going on in the UK - so appreciated the flow of information you were providing - as always.

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harvey007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 10:32 PM
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33. Jim Sciutto is a graduate of Yale University
Edited on Sat Dec-18-10 10:35 PM by harvey007
so what do you expect?

Also...Sciutto was selected as a life member of the Council of Foreign Relations in 2008.

Tabloid schmuck is right.
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harvey007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 09:47 AM
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73. Council on Foreign Relations Membership
Since Jim Sciutto is a lifetime member of the Council on Foreign Relations, you might ask "how does one get to be a member?"

Here's the answer:

http://www.cfr.org/about/membership/

Corporations can also be members. Here are the founding corporate members of CFR:

Bank of America Merrill Lynch
Chevron Corporation
Exxon Mobil Corporation
Goldman Sachs Group, Inc.
Hess Corporation
McKinsey & Company, Inc.
The Nasdaq OMX Group

Any questions?
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 01:48 PM
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86. Thank you, and Jim Schiutto proves Assange to be correct
as to why Wikileaks is so necessary. They are all compromised. No wonder the U.S. 'free press' rates so low in the world's listing of free press everywhere.

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jonthebru Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 11:48 PM
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38. Well... that interview went well.
the stupid reporter doesn't have a frickin' clue. Then again, if he had come back without some sort of bite to his interview his boss may have "spread his legs forcefully".
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Loudmxr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 12:00 AM
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40. Wait a minute I didn't get to hear what he thought of the Jonas Bros.???!!!
ABC News just asks the questions people want to know. Has he or has he not slept with Lindsey Lohan or not???

Inquiring minds want to know.

And what about that whale in San Francisco bay? Has he had sex with that too?

(OK I am still bitter about being knocked off the local news on a hate crime story to make way for the continuing drama of LL and some whale in SF bay) :mad:
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 12:19 AM
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41. Awesome.
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SourFlower Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 01:31 AM
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48. Tabloid shmuck, indeed. But that's an insult to shmucks the world over.
I feel so much safer knowing that guys like Jim Sciutto are out there, on the job. (Heavy sarcasm alert!)
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MedicalAdmin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 06:29 AM
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60. Isn't schmuck a Yiddish word that means "little penis?"
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 01:08 PM
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134. Schmuck
"Schmuck is most often used in American English as a pejorative or insult, meaning an obnoxious, contemptible person; one who is stupid, foolish, or detestable. The word is also used by many Jewish people across Europe with similar pejorative meanings. Variants of spelling and alterations include shmuck, schmo, and shmo.

"Schmuck entered English as a borrowed pejorative from a common Yiddish insult. The Online Etymology Dictionary derives it from the Polish word smok for dragon, as a euphemism for "penis"."
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orbitalman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 01:35 AM
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49. K & R
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 01:54 AM
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50. watch as I throw my 'reporter' credentials into the trash like so many mardi gras beads

did you see my exclusive? wasn't I just all that!

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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 02:14 AM
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51. Figures it would be ABC.
Edited on Sun Dec-19-10 02:14 AM by avaistheone1
The tabloid smug is only interested in creating tabloid smut.

k&r
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Independem Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 02:44 AM
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52. Murdered with impunity Journalists dead 341, 1995-2004
Murdered with impunity Journalists dead 341, 1995-2004


During the last decade, 341 journalists have been killed while carrying out their work. While conflict and war provide the backdrop to much of the violence against the press, CPJ research demonstrates that the vast majority of journalists killed since 1995 did not die in cross fire. Instead, they were hunted down and murdered, often in direct reprisal for their reporting. In fact, according to CPJ statistics, only 68 journalists (20 percent) died in cross fire, while 247 (72 percent) were murdered often in reprisal for their reporting. The remaining journalists were killed in conflict situations that cannot be described as combat--while covering violent street demonstrations, for example.

http://cpj.org/2004/12/the-toll-1995-2004.php

48 Journalists Killed 2005, 57 Journalists Killed 2006, 69 Journalists Killed 2007, 42 Journalists Killed 2008, 8 Journalists Killed 2009, 11 Journalists Killed 2010 = 235 from 2005-2010, total last 16 years 516 dead.

To many to be just a causality of war, murder inc. to hide the real story.
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:21 AM
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53. +1
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 05:17 AM
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59. Barred from journalism, covering wars -- and those who continue on... murdered -- !!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 05:02 AM
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56. Who would be watching ABC ...but we are all watching Assange and this attack on him....
Interpol -- and Global -- pressured by the US -- which seems to have a great

deael to fear from TRUTH!!

Danie Elsberg put us on the right track almost 40 years ago when he released

the Pentagon Papers --

We are all being held hostage to a corporate "National Security State" -- !!!

Long Live WikiLeaks!!



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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 06:32 AM
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61. Thank you Mr. Assange--that's exactly what ABC news is all about
being tabloid schmucks.

Mr. Schmuck might not have "meant" any insult, but if that were true, then why reach for some gossipy, tabloid bullshit instead of doing some real, journalism--the kind that Peter Jennings would have done.

Since Peter Jennings died, that network has totally gone to the dogs. Their news is worthless. They're as much a propaganda machine as fux noose is---but don't have the stones to stand in their truth and take their ass whippin' for it.
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FlyByNight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 06:54 AM
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62. That "reporter" must be proud of himself
Good for Mr. Assange for not taking any shit.

:applause:
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 07:37 AM
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65. Can't wait for the reaction on the Sunday Pundit shows... will they even cover it?
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 02:45 PM
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101. oh, I'm sure they will. In great detail.
:sarcasm:
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forty6 Donating Member (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 08:28 AM
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66. But but but...Assange had sex outside of marriage and that's a worse
crime than anything any government or George Bush and Cheney ever did...right????





:sarcasm: :sarcasm:

Look at this foolish reporter asking stupid questions about sex, and how these same media fools gave George W Bush a pass on his lies in the book and during his interviews to push his new book just last month.

Sickening media news folks.
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molly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 10:13 AM
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77. The positive in this last episode of nasty MSM
Nobody ..nobody believes the propaganda anymore. My brother is so far to the right that he likes Hitler..watches Fox News a lot. He says ABC, NBC ,NY Times and CNN and all are too liberal for him to believe. So who is paying the bills? US ? Because progressives sure wouldn't believe anything these so called news programs have to say.
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PADemD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 08:41 AM
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67. Worthy of Keith's Worst Person in the World
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 08:55 AM
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68. ABC Reporter likely a filthy Republican.
That is all.
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dballance Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 09:05 AM
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69. What an Ass - "I meant no insult"
Well I mean to insult. You are an ignorant ass Ms. Reporter. Obviously your corporate toadies have determined your narrative. Screw you, you asshat.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 09:41 AM
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71. "Julian, you're a man of the world. I mean, you've DONE it. You've BEEN with a lady? What's it like?
Edited on Sun Dec-19-10 09:42 AM by Ian David


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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 09:49 AM
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74. Excellent!
"Jim Sciutto, Tabloid Schmuck" That's what everyone should call him from now on.

That was an attempted journalistic assault. There was no way Assange could have answered that without it being made fodder for FAUX news.

That was the proper way to deal with him.
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 10:11 AM
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76. Well done, Julian! n/t
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 11:47 AM
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79. I think ROFLMAO is an appropriate response here..
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 12:14 PM
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80. K & R
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 01:17 PM
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83. From now on, let all MSM 'stenographers' who simply
Edited on Sun Dec-19-10 01:18 PM by sabrina 1
read the memos handed to them be referred to as 'tabloid schmucks'. What a great term, even better than 'stenographers'.

Go Julian. This is the second time he leveled a reporter who tried to get into the sleazy tabloid garbage, on the pretext of being a 'serious journalist'.

Assange is far too intelligent to walk into a trap like that.

What a complete fool that jerk made of himself, as Julian slaps him down like a badly behaved two-year-old in front of the whole world. I guess he didn't do his homework. If he had he would have known this is not the person to be asking stupid questions of.

If he had done nothing else in his life, Assange's 'lessons on how to be a real journalist' as he teaches him in front of the world just what is wrong with journalism today, are golden.

:applause:
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LiberalLovinLug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 02:47 PM
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102. A very clever insult to be sure
In clean language, "tabloid schmuck" is probably the most cutting insult one can level at a so called journalist/reporter especially one that represents a lofty corp like ABC, because it also reflects on them as well. It was the perfect succinct comeback.

He blew it, and I am pissed not just at the stab at Julian's sensibilities, but that I am dying to hear a great and concise interview with the man. I want to hear from his mouth more about him and his work with Wikileaks. Does such an interview even exist?
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:04 PM
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104. Well said. And yes, there have been many excellent interviews
with Assange. There is recent documentary eg, made in Sweden, about the history of Wikileaks that is excellent. You can view it here http://svtplay.se/v/2264028/wikirebels___the_documentary. I have watched it twice. This is the kind of news people are yearning for. And this is why they are trying to destroy it.

He is an incredible person to interview, brilliant, concise, passionate about human rights and expresses himself so well, even if you disagreed with him, you would find him compelling.

There is a TED talk he gave a while ago which should still be available on Google.

He was also interviewed after winning Amnesty International's New Media Award last year where he once again, explains what is important to him.

The U.S. media and their handlers are doing a good job of covering up who this man really is. I hope he starts talking only about his goals to reputable interveiwers from now on so those who were not familiar with him before, will learn who he really is.

Just put Julian Assange Interviews into your search engine and you will find dozens of excellent material. He has been doing this for several years and up to now, was highly regarded everywhere, except here of course, where we are generally cut off from the rest of the world.
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LiberalLovinLug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 02:09 PM
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145. Thanks sabrina and others for the links and info
Excellent documentary.
I was probably a bit lazy in not researching enough, but I think many people are like me and just assume what the MSM wants me to assume: That Julian Assange is a "man of mystery" (a sexually criminal one at that). I also think they use his short temper to goad him into giving an angry response with salacious questions so they can label him as an angry anarchist type, while at the same time avoid him the opportunity to actually explain his organization properly.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:58 PM
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110. John Pilger did a really good interview with him recently for his latest documentary
Edited on Sun Dec-19-10 03:58 PM by Turborama
I posted links to watch the full documentary and that particular interview here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x536632
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bengalherder Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 06:16 PM
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118. There are lectures, seminars and presentations by Assange
that were (at least until recently, afraid I haven't checked lately) availible on you tube and other sources. He's been around awhile and has been a well-known player for freedom of speech/press. His philosophies should have been well-known for awhile now but the mainstream and the American press especially likes to play dumb and exclaim, "Lawdy! Where did THIS come from?"

Thank you for supporting him, and I hope you do some research into his body of work. He didn't just sprinig up full-grown like Athena. He's been working behind the scenes for a decade or more.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 01:11 PM
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135. There are a number of NON-M$M-USAmerican
actual journalists who have interviewed him...

Google "Assange Interview"...
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 01:27 PM
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84. MSM, go for the salacious and ignore substance. n/t
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 01:45 PM
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85. Nicely done, Mr Assange.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 02:26 PM
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96. "Tabloid Schmuck" yep. n/t
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Guilded Lilly Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 02:37 PM
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97. Succinct and to the point...Tabloid schmuck. Yup. (n/t)
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 02:41 PM
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99. Kicked and recommended.
Edited on Sun Dec-19-10 02:41 PM by Uncle Joe
Thanks for the thread, tomm2thumbs.:thumbsup:
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 02:56 PM
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103. After years of watching...I now hate ABC Nightly News...
...there has most certainly been a swing to the right for ABC news.

Diane Sawyer is an idiot...she never reports seriously or asks serious questions. We
were just waiting for her to bring up the conflicts of interest, with that Republican
judge that says that the Health Care law is unconstitutional.

Did she bring up those issues?

NOPE!

Julian...I loves ya! Keep on Keep'n Up!
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:05 PM
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105. K & R for thinking on one's feet
Instead of M$M, U$T$ (United States Tabloid Schmuck)
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felix_numinous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:06 PM
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106. Telling the truth has become a life threatening job
if you don't join the people of the lie.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:44 PM
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109. It has always been a life threatening job...
... there is a worldly tradition of truth tellers not making it to ripe old ages from time immemorial.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 04:15 PM
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111. K&R Everyone should post "John Sciutto, ABC News Reporter: Tabloid Schmuck" on various sites...
whenever you feel like it.

GD thread:

Jim Sciutto, ABC News: Tabloid Schmuck!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x39051
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tcaudilllg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 06:03 PM
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117. Assange will be Obama's greatest test...
let's hope he chooses wisely.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 06:27 PM
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120. The signs are not good. Joe Biden just called
Assange a cyber terrorist.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 10:41 AM
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129. American media stenographers and provocateurs will find it hard to "interview" non-Americans...
They'll find that sophisticated, savvy non-Americans won't sit still for such asinine questions. They return insult for insult and prevail...something that doesn't always happen in America, where the interviewee is constantly bombarded with baseless accusations, usually at high volume, that border on blatant lies or have nothing to do with the subject at hand...
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