Poll_Blind
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Sun Dec-19-10 02:49 PM
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Biden: Assange 'Closer to being a high tech terrorist than, than the Pentagon Papers' |
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democracy1st
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Sun Dec-19-10 03:04 PM
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1. we understand why u had to say it Joe! |
Pharaoh
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Sun Dec-19-10 03:06 PM
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It is just shining the light of day in dark corners. It is called Journalism and the Free Press.
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Sun Dec-19-10 03:30 PM
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...Hey Joe...not like you and your "fast mouth" haven't said stuff.
At least Julian is shining light onto the "Smoking Man", hiding in the corners.
Go Julian Go!
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TatonkaJames
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Sun Dec-19-10 03:29 PM
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3. They keep pushing the phrase |
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Edited on Sun Dec-19-10 03:30 PM by TatonkaJames
about costing lives. How about when they show the proof, much like the numbers we know about that the wars have caused, 5,000 soldiers and some say nearly one million innocent Iraqi and Afghans. When they show us the numbers in the smallest way so as not to put anyone else in danger, then you might have a case, until then it's all lies about Assange. (which we already know)
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Sun Dec-19-10 03:35 PM
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5. "He's made it more difficult for us to conduct business with our allies............ |
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Edited on Sun Dec-19-10 03:36 PM by Smarmie Doofus
... and our friends."
And this is a BAD thing?
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Sun Dec-19-10 03:47 PM
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6. Wasn't this administration for "transparency" before they were against it? |
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How come everyone in this administration has a very strong opinion regarding Assange, Manning, et al. Yet they have no comments when it comes to the previous administration's war crimes?
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Sun Dec-19-10 03:52 PM
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Actually it is the US Gov damaging itself by being such a rogue and lawless actor.
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Sun Dec-19-10 04:07 PM
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8. It's the excessive secrecy that has done damage. |
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Edited on Sun Dec-19-10 04:09 PM by JDPriestly
Further, the term "terrorist" is vague and as used is frequently overbroad.
If Assange had been committing terror, he would have used the information he had to extort someone. He did not. He simply published it asking nothing of anyone. He did not publish the information to obtain a specific political purpose but rather to share information with anyone who would read it.
Further, Assange is not a traitor because he is not a US citizen and also because he did not provide this information to the public in order to aid and abet our enemies but rather to enlighten us. There is a huge difference.
That is my opinion. The US government has to do a better job in selecting from the mass of information that which must be kept secret and that which need not be kept secret and then needs to develop better methods for keeping the important secrets secret.
What Biden and other are forgetting is that if Assange could get this information so easily, in fact, enemies of our government may have obtained this and similar information long before Assange.
Assange is unique in that he simply published the information. If North Korea or Iran had found a way to get it, we might never know.
The Obama and Bush administrations (and Congress) are trying to avoid the obvious fact that they are to blame for the failure in our security that made Wikileaks possible.
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Sun Dec-19-10 04:46 PM
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9. And for the multiple failures in foreign policy that made Wikileaks *necessary*. |
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>>>The Obama and Bush administrations (and Congress) are trying to avoid the obvious fact that they are to blame for the failure in our security that made Wikileaks possible.>>>>
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Sun Dec-19-10 10:57 PM
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17. Yes. No one would care if the Obama and Bush foreign |
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policies were not such failures.
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Mon Dec-20-10 11:12 AM
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18. Biden was less glib than usual in this interview. Must be hard for |
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him to face the truth, that being that he must go along with the administration in condemning Assange. Biden has lost the ability to be transparent and also any respect that some of us have had for him.
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Sun Dec-19-10 05:02 PM
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10. A free press scares the powers to be, to bad the public has been sidetracked |
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with all the smoke screens.
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Sun Dec-19-10 05:05 PM
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11. I notice that he only mentions 'whistleblower' and 'high tech terrorist' because of |
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Edited on Sun Dec-19-10 05:26 PM by peacetalksforall
the question. Isn't Assange a middleman journalist/publisher?
What about what seems like Biden's precise selection of the word 'conspire'.
Ok legal heads - what's the law on 'conspire'. Is conspire a fit here?
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What we know?
The whistleblower/leaker is Manning?
The material is part classified government material.
The journalist/publisher is an Australian.
The coverage iw worldwide.
The method is non-paper.
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I want to wait to know the law before I rant, but I am so disgusted about the lies of government who favor the bosses - the ruling elite.
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Sun Dec-19-10 05:30 PM
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12. That's a slanderous statement |
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And very irresponsible.
Shame on you, Mr. Vice President.
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Mon Dec-20-10 11:18 AM
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19. Certainly is, since Biden declared he couldn't comment due to |
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ongoing investigation re. Assange. I'm assuming that Biden is unhappy taking this stance. His problem, not ours. Although it is hard for him to do, he should have kept his trap shut. What has he to hide?
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Sun Dec-19-10 05:51 PM
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13. I used to like the Vice President.......nt |
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Sun Dec-19-10 06:05 PM
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14. Great job on the War on Terror, Joe. n/t |
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Sun Dec-19-10 06:31 PM
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Mr. Vice President, just a couple of days ago you admitted Wikileaks had NOT actually inflicted significant damage. Which story is it? You cannot have it both ways.
If Wikileaks has revealed things said or done by your staff that have embarrassed them or caused foreign diplomats to distrust them, perhaps the place to look is at your staff's professionalism and conduct. It is shameful, especially for a Democrat, and extremely dangerous, to try to elevate to the level of "terrorism" word and acts that have merely caused diplomatic discomfort and inconvenience.
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Sun Dec-19-10 07:57 PM
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16. Hey Joe-stop playing to the crowd |
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Mon Dec-20-10 01:15 PM
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20. I think the VP doth protest too much |
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Edited on Mon Dec-20-10 01:33 PM by FlyByNight
Which leads me to wonder, just what is this administration potentially hiding?
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