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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-10 12:55 PM
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P.S. 107 - Flushing, New York
 
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Take a peek into a day in the life of students at P.S. 107 in New York. There's learning everywhere, from math to drama to music and cooking! And the teachers, administration and community collaborate to make it happen every day.
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Riley18 Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-10 01:03 PM
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1. Real teaching without all the gimmicks we see when the
media is pushing those for profit charter schools.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-10 01:32 PM
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3. you do realize that all charter schools are NON-PROFIT
Yes, TEN PERCENT of them are MANAGED by for-profit organizations - the same for-profit organizations that MANAGE some traditional public school systems in the US.

TEN PERCENT.

Another ten percent are managed by NON-profit management organizations.

The other EIGHTY PERCENT? Started and managed by local teachers, parents, business people - and all NON-PROFIT.

Some of the MOST CREATIVE schools in America right now ARE Charter public schools.
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sulphurdunn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-10 04:09 PM
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4. Actually, No.
The number of charter schools operated by education management organizations (EMO) and by charter management organizations (CMO) is more like 30%. They are about evenly divided between EMOs (for profit) and CMOs (non-profit). The largest growth rate in charter schools is with EMOs. Their growth rate this past year was approximately 70%. Ninety percent of all privately managed public schools are charters. The fees to EMOs last year averaged 23% of the cost per pupil. For CMOs it averaged 10%. These kind of schools are heavily clustered in Texas, California, Arizona and Ohio.

When the term "non-profit" is applied to a CMO that doesn't mean it is a charitable operations. Many are operated for profit by hedge funds. Please check this link. http://www.chartergrowthfund.or/what.invest.html

Your statement about some of the most creative schools in American being charters is, of course, an opinion to which you are entitled. In fact, the most recent data using standardized testing (the Holy Grail of accountability for the charter school movement) clearly indicates that most of these schools do not perform as well as their non-charter public schools peers. Have a nice day. :)
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-10 07:47 PM
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5. Where are you getting your figures?
Metrics  #  % 
Freestanding.....3,838.....77.8%
EMO................492.....10.0%
CMO................573.....11.6%

http://www.publiccharters.org/dashboard/schools/page/mgmt/year/2010
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sulphurdunn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-10 02:36 PM
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9. Here
Edited on Sat Dec-25-10 02:46 PM by sulphurdunn
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-10 03:55 AM
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6. But not all the companies that own the buildings in which the
schools are located are non-profit. That is how the for-profits make their money from charter schools. That is not true of all charter schools but it is one of the problems with many of them. Also, charter schools in some places are not held to the same test and retest standards as the public schools. That gives charter schools a way out of really performing as well as they claim to. Further, charter schools like so many other private schools do not demand professional credentials of teachers and do not pay professional salaries to their teachers.

Charter schools are not as good as public schools, and, frankly, a lot of private schools are not as good as public schools. The students in private schools and the students and parents in some of the charter schools are more likely to be from solid families or even from the wealthiest among us, but the schools themselves are not as good as public schools. That is because the teachers in public schools are better educated for the most part and encouraged not only to maintain their credentials but to increase their pay by continuing their education. A few private schools hire well educated teachers, but many do not.
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-10 01:17 PM
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2. That was wonderful...
thanks for bringing a smile to my face. As a huge supporter of public schools, this is a great example of how well they can and DO work for our children.
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Riley18 Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-10 10:57 AM
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7. You cannot be so naive as to assume that charter schools
are being pushed on us because of some noble belief in the wonders of mankind. The only reason is for profit. One way or the other the rich have smelled a way to get richer at the expense of our children. Why else would people like Gates, Jeb Bush, Rick Scott and various other rich bastards be interested in those types of schools? Why are they not trying to make college more affordable? I recall when W was in office that it was much more difficult to even get student loans let alone grants.

Why don't they fund public schools with enough money to meet their ever increasing mandates?
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-10 02:34 PM
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8. I agree.
PROFIT! That and more thoroughly destroying organized labor.
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