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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:40 PM
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Olbermann/Matthews: Bush's Speech Claims "open him up to ridicule."
 
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:40 PM
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1. It looks like bushco has lost the unquestioning support of motor mouth
who has been his war drummer and step and fetch it lo these last 6+ years.
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 01:59 AM
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2. Actually, Tweety has been against the war since before it started
from what I've heard.

A couple days ago he actually said "so it's all just a waste of blood." That did surprise me.

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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:32 AM
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5. No not true, only for the last year has he
Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 11:51 AM by ooglymoogly
been backing away with 'the words' but still backing the war by attitude and guests with softballs and praise to supporters (republicans) and hardballs, spittle, foam and wrath to non-supporters (democrats). He has supported this President since the beginning and there is no other way to crack it, Bush initiated the war and it is his overriding policy. Support for bush = support for the war no matter What words you use as insurance to cover your ass while doing the dirty deed. Just lately he has been acting noticeably different
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:08 AM
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6. I don't think that's correct.
Edited on Sun Sep-16-07 02:19 AM by cui bono
I haven't been able to google up a transcript from Hardball before the war where he states it, but I found these... I don't think this proves anything though, but it's the best I could do right now.

Is Chris Matthews Liberal or Conservative?: Chris Matthews has been repeatedly accused of being both too liberal and too conservative. In truth, he's an independent thinker whose views are colored more by his Catholic convictions than by political partisanship.

As a young man, he was a conservative Goldwater supporter until he was attracted to the anti-war, pro-civil rights 1968 presidential campaign of fellow Irish Catholic Eugene McCarthy. Matthews has worked for 4 Democratic leaders, and yet, since 2001, has spoken to an array of conservative organizations. Matthews openly states"I'm more conservative than people think... "

Chris Matthews on the Iraq War: Chris Matthews opposed the Iraq War at its inception, and continues to oppose U.S. occupation of Iraq.
http://usliberals.about.com/od/thepressandjournalist1/p/CMatthews.htm


Matthews: ‘I Have Been…Against This Bullshit War From The Beginning’

This morning on Imus, MSNBC’s Chris Matthews blasted the media for not covering the Iraq war. Matthews said that while people are still fighting and dying the Iraq, war “has been taken off television, and Bush must love it.”

Matthews said that most of the media was sold a bill of goods by the Bush administration, but that he’s been “a voice out there against this bullshit war from the beginning.” He added that Cheney was “totally wrong” about Iraq but still “talks like God on television, and we are supposed to believe every word.” Watch it:

MATTHEWS: No. no. no. no. Don. Dono. You can check everything. Get your Nexis-Lexis out. Get your google out. Every column I have written from the day they started talking about Iraq has been against it. Now you are chuckling because you know damn well you’ve pulled my chain here. I have been a voice out there against this bullshit war from the beginning.

IMUS: OK, well, except you then.

MATTHEWS: OK. That’s nicer.

IMUS: Do we have to edit that for the radio, Lou?

PRODUCER: Yeah, we got it.

MATTHEWS: I have never used it ’til now because it was never more appropo. But you are right. The amazing thing is the President is winning now with a hand with nothing in it. They were wrong about the WMD, wrong about the connection to 9/11. Cheney said he didn’t even know there was going to be a war when we went in there. He was totally wrong, and yet he talks like god on television, and we are supposed to believe every word.

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/21/matthews-against-war/


However, he most likely still had a lot of guests on that talked up the war a lot, so he's not free of complicity.




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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:47 PM
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7. Still not true....I heard those remarks coming around for the most part within the last year.
he is all over the map with his comments even before * was elected to have a "see I was this or that a long time ago" but talking the talk and NOT walking the walk is his m.o. to cover his ass and if you are still debating on whether motor mouth is liberal or conservative you just are not paying attention or you are hearing what you want to hear. There has been a gradual change over the last year while still defending the neocons with a frothing at the mouth vengeance but I am sensing that is now changing.
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:23 PM
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8. You can say that, but I don't see any documentation in your posts.
I have heard on this board, and from what I googled it supports that although doesn't prove it, that he's been against the war since the beginning.

I haven't seen anything in your posts that proves otherwise.

It doesn't matter that much since I can't stand him anyway, but if you want me to believe you you have to show me the evidence. I just don't think you are correct.

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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:35 PM
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9. If you need documentation go to Utube.
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 02:32 PM
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10. If you want to prove something you should provide the proof.
Edited on Mon Sep-17-07 02:34 PM by cui bono
Why would I go to youtube to attempt to prove something I don't believe to be true? You made the statement and yet you won't back it up. I already took the time to google things for my position.


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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:59 AM
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3. Tweeeety- Hellooooo!
He's a liar!
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:10 AM
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4. Isn't Olberman's opening description the definition of "truthiness"?
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