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Posted on YouTube: December 31, 2010
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Full interview part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNVJgcbIXnIPart 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2N6OCNp-PIAnnouncer: Welcome back to The David Pakman Show.
David: Welcome back to The David Pakman Show. It's the best of 2010. We're going to get right into our anti-gay nut interviews, but before doing that, we'll have a couple of other things. Let me tell you what's happening on the bonus show today. Number one, Louis is actually going to be hosting the bonus show. Special guest host. People have said what would it sound like if Louis had to host a show? Well, you'll find out today on the bonus show. www.DavidPakman.com/membership. Are you scared, Louis?
Louis: No.
David: We'll talk... Louis will interview me, what do I remember most about the year, what's the biggest mistake we made on-air, what's next for the show?
Louis: I might catch Dave off-guard with an embarrassing question.
David: We'll also talk about why did the White House ban shirtless photos of Obama, and plenty more. But first, a really serious interview, and really one of the most memorable interviews I can remember, is we had Mike Carney in, who's a Springfield, Massachusetts police officer who was not required because of his sexual orientation. He was in, he talked to us about the denial of his job, and plenty more. Let's take a little bit-- a couple minutes of that interview.
... aftereffect of what was... it doesn't sound to me a very pleasant experience, at least in the interim where you were denied that reinstatement, or do you really feel like that you... I mean, how comfortable are you?
Mike Carney: I'm very comfortable now. It took me quite a bit of time to get there, you know, while I was out of work, but I was able to move through that with some help. And I am treated just like anyone else there, and that's all I wanted to be is treated like anyone else there.
David: And you really feel that, honestly?
Carney: I wholeheartedly feel that, yeah. I wholeheartedly feel that, and I'm grateful for that. Yeah.
David: And again, we're in Massachusetts. I think that we could find thousands of instances of people in your situation in other states, like you said, if they're outside of that list of 12 or 13, that they may not have the same type of experience you had.
Carney: I talked to thousands of people over the last 10 to 15 years who have written to me personally that are going through the same thing that I went through, and they're not able to access any laws like we have here in Massachusetts that protected me. And I find it egregious today that, in 2010, that we'd have one law in a state, a handful of states, and some other states that gay Americans are being treated as second-class citizens, and I find it egregious.
David: Well, we, the... when I think about times that I've been in situations where I was put down or insulted for being Jewish in different work situations in the past when I was 16, 17, I knew that I could fight it and get the other person moved to another location or whatever. I didn't want the job anymore. I didn't want to be there. So I think it's incredible that, and part of it I'm sure is your commitment to the city of Springfield and the fact that they need police officers, I find it amazing that you even wanted to stick around.
Carney: Sometimes I wonder why I did, but I did, and I'm really happy that I did.
David: So the entire interview with Mike Carney of course available on our YouTube channel.
Transcript provided by Alex Wickersham. For transcription, translation, captions, and subtitles, contact Alex at directtranslation@gmail.com.
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