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ThirdChoice Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:32 AM
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StopDomesticTerror.com Calls on Sarah Palin to Renounce her Crosshairs Poster
 
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www.StopDomesticTerror.com

Sign our Petition to Urge the Department of Justice to:


 •study this trend toward the encouragement of violent lawlessness and initiate action to counter it,
•investigate and prosecute those who are committing and inciting others to commit acts of violence,
•review whether any media groups are violating antitrust laws by monopolizing media or media markets, or failing in their obligation to meet the "public interest" of their FCC broadcast licenses.
•support an update and study by the FCC and NTIA of the 1993 report, "The Role of Telecommunications in Hate Crimes."
•Conduct an investigation into the rise of extremism and violence and the role of the media in this phenomenon

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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 06:24 AM
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1. K&R! nt
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Dokkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 10:13 AM
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2. JUST WONDERING
Is there any evidence that this crazy man knew of Sarah Palin's crosshairs map? supported Sarah Palin? or was even a conservative? I have seen news reports that this crazy man was obsessed with Gifford as far back as 2007. Also how much can we attribute this tragedy to inattentive parents, loose gun regulation laws, psychiatric problems and inefficient social services?

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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 11:34 AM
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4. If this tragedy can be used to force SP to dial it down....
Do it. She is a sick human being, with her cross hairs and 'death panels' and 'real Americans'.

She has zero compassion. So I feel zero sympathy for her.

She will turn this around and blame liberals somehow anyway.

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eagertolearn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 12:31 PM
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6. I think everyone is guilty. Those of us who have been so disheartened
by the way our country has become so bigoted and reactive to the fear based jargon coming out of the "right". We should have done something about it instead of retreating into our own caves. We knew this was where this was going but we felt helpless and just gave up. I stopped responding when my mom talked about "doing something about those "immigrants...Mexicans", how we have to protect ourselves (secure her house, take money out of the banks and supply with guns). She has totally bought into this crap and I felt like I had lost my parent to Glen Beck and Rush and all of Fox news. Please let this change. It's just so sad that lives had to be lost for all people to see that this is so wrong. The world is watching us...how will we respond?
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 02:36 PM
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7. Defending her "KILL" rhetoric ain't gonna get you 1 inch of 1 mile.
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Dokkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 03:51 PM
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10. by kill
do you mean "target on their backs"?
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 11:19 AM
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3. I think
Sarah Palin is too superficial a person to hold herself responsible for her own rhetoric.

Besides that is not what her republican masters want her to do.

Sarah Palin is a soulless thug and bully. Might we also add she is an assassin to that list?




K&R

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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 02:37 PM
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8. She a fucking manchurian candidate just like Loughner the shooter.
Edited on Mon Jan-10-11 02:41 PM by goforit
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thetonka Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 11:36 AM
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5. No Thanks, I just can't support censorship.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 03:07 PM
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9. Are there no limits to what a person may say or advocate?
In what instances would you say that censorship is called for or may be necessary?
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ThirdChoice Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:05 PM
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11. Not censorship
It is calling on her to publicly admit her divisive rhetoric and poster, coupled with her and the conservative movement's close association to the NRA and anti-Federal government stance, and especially all the other rightwing media outlets (radio, TV) and their very reactionary and extreme rhetoric....may have played a role leading up to this, and that the conservative movement needs to tone their rhetoric down.

After all, she took down the poster not just because it would be bad taste. She knew deep inside it played some small role. When are we going to go after American homegrown domestic rightwing terrorists? Not as long as the NRA has their way with our government. The rightwing will never admit that their rhetoric always reaches someone on the fringe, that 1 in 10,000 nut (usually always a gun-nut) and incites him to violence. McVeigh, etc.

Shouting "Fire" in a theater, and it leads to someone being trampled to death, is a crime. We call on Palin to publicly admit the right has been yelling "Fire" for 3 years, and promise to stop.
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thetonka Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 04:00 PM
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14. I oppose censorship in all forms
I also recognize that freedom of speech is a two way road. They have a right to say something stupid, and we have a right to point and laugh.

If you have to resort to censorship to silence the opposition, your position is not a strong one.
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ThirdChoice Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:13 PM
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12. This is a call for a return to civil discourse....
This is a basically a call for a return to civil discourse. It does not blame her or her poster, or ask for censorship. Many, many believe the toxic political atmosphere for the last 3 years (angry people at Town Hall meetings, the guns and pro-gun signs being brought to rallies and speeches, etc.) played a role in this tragedy, and that needs to be talked about; not swept under the rug.

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thetonka Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 03:58 PM
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13. Big difference
Between a call for a return to civil discourse and a call for the government to get involved in what people can and can not say.

I remember not long ago when the Republicans were in charge there were many on the liberal side who fought against Republican attempts to control the media and control what can and can not be seen or said on TV, newspapers and the radio. I've even been involved in fights against censorship in the form of copyright laws supported.

We can change the conversation, forcing the change by force of government is censorship and in the end will only feed into the paranoid fears of the nutjobs on the right who believe government is trying to take over. If you push for federal action to force a change in the rhetoric, intent and content of the conversation, especially on talk radio, you will only prove them right.

Censorship is wrong. Yes there are limits, but those limits need to be very limited. If you open the door to allow the government to control what can and can not be said you give all the power to the government.

I'd like to see the conversation change more than anything, but I do not want to give up my freedoms just to silence a minority. If I wanted to live in a country like that I could, there are a number of them out there.
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