Cenk's Controversial Blog On Loughner Shootings

[alp227]

Run time: 07:38 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO9JajhZf2g   Posted on YouTube: January 12, 2011 By YouTube Member: TheYoungTurks Views on YouTube: 301   Posted on DU: January 12, 2011 By DU Member: alp227 Views on DU: 1373

 
The Huffington Post censored one of Cenk's blogs "Was Jared Loughner's Act Political?" about the Arizona shooting. Not the firs time though.

[JDPriestly]

1. alp227, the reason the right-wingers cannot understand what Cenk is saying

is very deep in their psyches.

It has to do with child abuse, I think.

I posted this yesterday.

I have a friend, a peaceful guy, really would never hurt anyone. But when he gets angry, when he is upset with someone, he talks about all the horrible ugly things he would like to see happen to them. The images are really awful.

Now I know this guy very well, and I know that he would never do these horrible things to anyone. In fact, he is the first to rush to help someone who is suffering. And I wondered, why does he use these images, this language that is so violent when he is angry? Sure, I become angry too. But images like that, language like that just never crosses my mind. Why does he react like that?

And then I remembered something that this friend has confided to me: He was physically abused as a child. Beaten among other things -- by a parent.

And it occurred to me that he associates having angry feelings -- just ordinary angry feelings that all of us have -- with violence. After all, that is how the adults around him expressed their anger when he was small.

I think this explains the inability of the right-wingers to understand what it is that we object to about their images, their rhetoric. They use their violent imagery and rhetoric because that is the only way they know to express anger.

Teach a child that the natural expression of anger is physical punishment and violence, and then of course, when that child as an adult becomes angry or wants to express anger, he will associate his anger with violence and express it in violent images and rhetoric.

And that is the key to the right-wing, at least those who use this emotionally charged violent imagery and rhetoric. They were abused as children. That's simply how they learned to express anger. They speak a different emotional language than many of us on the left do.

So, now the problem is how do we explain this to them.

If you talk to people who have committed violent child abuse to someone else, very often you find that they don't understand that what they have done is not just normal behavior. That tends to be the way they were raised.

Our whole country needs repeated courses in parenting and in anger management. Our preoccupation with violence has to do with early childhood parenting techniques.

When my first baby was born, a very wise woman who had raised five children told me "Remember, everything you give your child, your child will give back to you." That goes for the good and the bad, the negligence, the abuse as well as the love. Best advice I ever had.

[DearAbby]

2. I stand with Cenk on this

This isn't the first time this has happened. The pattern is just to damned obvious. 100% behind ya Turks.

[Red Knight]

3. 100 percent correct

I am so tired of game they play to make everything even--50-50 when clearly it isn't.

If you're going to tell me the "gun culture" is just as big on the left as it is on the right you need to see a shrink.

The violent rhetoric is not close.

But the media HAS to present things that way. It HAS to.

This is why the media is useless. Thank God for Cenk and others like him.

And he's right--if they took freedom of speech away the left would be the first to lose it.

[info being]

4. That's why I don't pay any attention to the mainstrea media

[ihavenobias]

5. K & R n/t

[fasttense]

6. How many more slightly liberal people have to be assassinated before

the hate mongers own up to their responsibility for inciting this violence? How many more people have to die for Sarah before some action is taken? These irresponsible, addicted to hate, Tea-baggers need to be prosecuted, fined, reigned in, and most importantly removed from the public air-waves.

If nothing is done (and from what I'm hearing from the Tea-bagger types and even some people who claim to be liberal nothing is exactly what is going to happen) more people are going to be hurt and/or assassinated.

These RW hater mongers can't help themselves. Sarah Palin used phrasing in her "I didn't do this" video calling out more racists, antisemitic and white nationalists.

Sarah can't stop herself. Limpballs is addicted to calling for the murder of liberals. Glenn is stuck on repeat. Bill O'Riely verbally attacked a doctor until the crazies murdered the poor man. He could not stop himself. They need intervention. They need us to stop them, or remove their public platform, before they kill again.

[nyc 4 Biden]

7. cenk nails it again! k&r

[DeSwiss]

8. Cenk may not want to blame all conservatives.....

...but it doesn't stop me from doing it. At least the ones who don't denounce this pandering to violent verbal imagery (and frankly I can't think of a single one who has). As I've said previously with respect to http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=214&topic_id=269473&mesg_id=269656">moderate/liberal Christians, this likewise applies to conservatives: "if someone is blatantly lying about your beliefs and what you stand for then you have an obligation to vociferously deny what they're saying is the truth."

You don't have to stop breathing. And you don't even have to try and make them stop telling the lies. But you do have to say what you believe to be true. To stand up for civility and everyone's right to say what they want and believe what they want without being subjected to violence and/or threats of violence.

Failing that, you're allowing others to define you and to create an environment of incivility where things like what happened in Tucson becomes more and more likely.

But conservatives won't defy Limbaugh, Palin, nor even a loony-tune like Glen Beck because they're either afraid to, or they agree with them. They realize that these demagogues are their base's heroes. They fear telling the truth about these lying charlatans because they realize they'd lose their positions of political power. Others may simply agree with what they are saying but lack sufficient courage to say out loud what they themselves believe to be true.


- So conservatives can bleat all they want Cenk. But the stink is on their shoes because of where they walk..........

[WillyT]

9. HUGE K & R !!!

:kick:

[democracy1st]

10. K & R

[pleah]

11. Big K&R for Cenk and TYT!