NEW: 9/11 helicopter video released by NYC police

[Amerigo Vespucci]

Run time: 02:07 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6STYgCdP3w   Posted on YouTube: March 08, 2011 By YouTube Member: RussiaToday Views on YouTube: 308   Posted on DU: March 08, 2011 By DU Member: Amerigo Vespucci Views on DU: 2151

 

[Charleston Chew]

1. NYPD Helicopter video of 9/11 attack surfaces

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=560539&mesg_id=560539

[AlbertCat]

2. OMG! 9/11 AGAIN! Be AFRAID!!!!

We cannot forget (like anyone might) and must sacrifice things like bargaining rights to keep our country safe!

Just LOOK!

No, not at WI.... look over here! OVER HERE! See the horror!








next up:
The WI protesters are...

a) just like
b)just as anti-American
c)the greatest threat since

... the 9/11 terrorists!!!!!

[uppityperson]

3. What a sad and scary time that was. RIP those who died then and after in relation

to this

[Politicalboi]

4. No new Pentagon footage

I'm still waiting to see new video since the Pentagon has hundreds or even thousands of camera's everywhere. And no one is held responsible for waiting 40 minutes after the second plane hit the towers and then "surprise" it hits our biggest DEFENSE building. Oh that's right, we aren't suppose to blame anyone.
What a bunch of shit. I hope those held in Gitmo have some good attorneys for their trial. I hope they got forensics. It is possible since all of the dead at the Pentagon were ID. LOL! Simply amazing. I know there are non believers here. Us "truthers" are not all Charlie Sheens, and we are the minority for some strange reason. I guess those that don't see don't care.

[dotymed]

5. The burning of the Reichstag.....

:mad:

[CrawlingChaos]

11. +1

[think4yourself]

6. At 1:35

He yells "How did it fall down?"

70% of NYC are still waiting for a plausible explanation.

[DreamSmoker]

7. How did it get so hot to melt steel?

Not one of these theories considers the fact that Modern Aircraft contain much Magnesium.. Titanium will act the same to if it is ignited also..
Have any of you seen how Magnesium burns when it is ignited???
I have so many times.... You can't use water to put this stuff out as it explodes on contact...
This stuff is also used in Road Flares.. And you know how well they burn...
It will burn so hot as to melt all that steel like Fire does to Ice...
The collapse was inevitable.....

[CJCRANE]

8. Um...do you mean aluminum/aluminium?

I'm no chemist but I'm pretty sure it has different properties than magnesium.

[DreamSmoker]

9. answer...

Magnesium is made with Aluminum....
Example...
How many of you remember the VW Bug????
The engines main bodies were cast in this for strength and it lite weight..
Most of those small planes that fly over us every day have engines cast in this stuff..
Custom car wheels also.....
Many things are made of Aluminum Magnesium.....
Titanium is similar but much tougher... It behaves the same way when it ignites too..

When any of these burn... The fire is so intense you can't look at it directly as it is blinding white hot....

[PurgedVoter]

10. What?

Magnesium is made with Aluminum? By alchemists?

[RC]

14. You are kinda on the right path.

Magnesium is a chemical element with the symbol Mg, atomic number 12
Aluminium or aluminum is an element. It has the symbol Al and its atomic number is 13.
Titanium is a chemical element with the symbol Ti and atomic number 22.

Now look up "aluminum oxide and iron rust"

[DreamSmoker]

17. I KNOW WHAT THERMITE IS

Aluminum Magnesium Burns in the same manner as thermite... Titanium also will...
These all when combined with the right conditions burn the very same way...
Although Thermite reacts much quicker and more violently....... It would have melted everything below itself in seconds... Steel, Concrete, everything..
The others would take more time but just as hot and effective.. The others were what the plane itself was made of.....

[RC]

18. So you are saying one airplane made of

Aluminum, Magnesium and/or Titanium, whatever on the 80th floor was enough weaken the building all the way down to the 7th sub basement?

Yeah, sure, ya betcha Charley.

That should have been one bright glow. How come nobody saw it? The heat went down, but not out? Who sent you, Sarah?

[DRex]

12. Even if most of the plane was made of magnesium...

and managed to rearrange itself into a flammable state upon hitting the building (magnesium alloys used in planes are pretty much fireproof unless powdered), that wouldn't explain the simultaneous collapse of the whole building, including the bottom floors, hundreds of feet away. We are talking about an absolutely enormous amount of steel to be weakened to such an extreme degree by a relatively small amount of magnesium.

[DreamSmoker]

19. Have you ever been to and tried to fight a Aircraft fire??????

I have...
And a Passenger Jet is no little Air Plane..
An impact at full speed into that building is all it takes..

[DRex]

20. Oh, okay, I didn't know you'd been to an aircraft fire....

that settles it then. I suppose seeing an airplane on fire would tell you exactly what the necessary heat and force to disintegrate 500,000 tons of steel reinforced concrete would be...

And if the impact at full speed is all it takes, why are we talking about magnesium and fires?

I'm not really a theorist on this topic, but I don't think things can be as easily explained away as all that.

[DreamSmoker]

21. Here.. Check it out and learn...

Burning of Magnesium and properties

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UJTR-LA1z4

Here are some guys just playing with this stuff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rogZBXNqaMo

Now thermite

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdCsbZf1_Ng

Thermite reacts violently and very fast.. Melts through Concrete and brick in seconds..

[DRex]

22. If either magnesium or thermite could be responsible...

they would not have come from the plane, and you would have to theorize another way for it to get there, ie. having been planted there beforehand.

Again, there's magnesium in the plane, but in the form of magnesium alloys, which are mostly fireproof unless in powdered form, and anyway could not weaken the steel of the lower floors or basement by burning up at the point of plane impact.

[AlbertCat]

15. The collapse was inevitable.....

Especially since the metal does not have to actually melt or get to the melting point to become brittle and unable to support the weight it could at normal temps. Then, of course, the weight of one floor falling on top of the other...then two...then three...

I am skeptical of a big nefarious operation to topple the towers. I am NOT skeptical of complete and utter neglect.... criminal in nature. Condie and crew were literally looking the other way. Dubya was doing his usual job performance. Cheney was busy kissing the Saudi's ass. And all of them were too busy being the anti-Clintons. No need to bother with anything those guys were up to. Just pretend the Clintonites don't exist and even go out of your way to be indifferent to things important to the last administration.

No wonder Bin Laden chose the time he did. He knew the minute Bush was in, no one would be minding the store so he took 9 months to get his ducks in order. The amazing thing is that everyone but the Bushies were doing their job. Everything stopped at the Bush & Friends level.

[RC]

16. "Brittle" Clear down to the 7th sub basement?

"Especially since the metal does not have to actually melt or get to the melting point to become brittle and unable to support the weight it could at normal temps. Then, of course, the weight of one floor falling on top of the other...then two...then three..."

[TEXASYANKEE]

13. Hard to believe ....

That it's been almost 10 years now. :-(

[tootrueleft]

23. Anybody whos still wasting time arguing about the twin towers collapse should be referred to...

the WTC7 collapse. No plane. No aviation fuel. No buy it....not from the video. It was 'pulled'.