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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 09:57 PM
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it's on.Anonymous launches new social group-A99 Operation Empire State Rebellion - Communication #1
 
Run time: 02:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D6neBzTnOQ
 
Posted on YouTube: March 12, 2011
By YouTube Member: AmpedStatus
Views on YouTube: 268
 
Posted on DU: March 13, 2011
By DU Member: stockholmer
Views on DU: 8498
 
We are a decentralized non-violent resistance movement which seeks to restore the rule of law and fight back against the organized criminal class.

Demand Number 1 - Ben Bernanke Resign



Join A99 here

http://ampedstatus.org/network/groups/a99/
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:22 PM
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1. go. baby
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:34 PM
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2. Thanks stockholmer!
Bring it on!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:38 PM
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:52 PM
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7. I don't have the command of the economic facts
as you do but I do see the logic and I have heard = the Grand Chessboard explained via internet documentary - the world that Brzezinski envisions is a world of global elites.....As you note, he is a key Obama foreign policy strategist and his grand strategy explains the US (supported by Britain et.al.)lust for control of resources in southwest Asia - the Middle East Oil and the pipelines through Afghanistan.
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barbiegeek Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:39 PM
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4. Holy Frick
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:58 PM
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8. I know! I almost passed out! Oh man.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:49 PM
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5. This is all about freedom and choice, and seems a natural progression to not
I'm not able to understand all the technical stuff that is going on with the computers but I welcome an independent platform free of the intrusions of J.P. Morgan etc... Keep up the good work Anonymous.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:51 PM
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6. About time someone...
Call them out on this. Voting has not worked. Protesting has not worked.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:59 PM
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9. Forgot to kick this one.
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iamtechus Donating Member (868 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 11:00 PM
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10. This is right-wing, anti-tax, freeper garbage. Don't help them spread their shit!
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 11:19 PM
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14. Anonymous is right wing???
I can't afford black and white thinking, sorry.

Understanding the economic terrorism that has gone on world wide is not limited to one political group.


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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 11:23 PM
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15. Anonymous? Right Wing? Freepers? lololololololololol you are blind
:rofl:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 11:23 PM
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16. Freepers want an end to campaign finance + lobbying rackets? Wow!!
I'm impressed!!

And do they want an end to the Global Banking Cartel -- Federal Reserve,

World Bank, IMF, and rigged markets --


and Ben Bernanke to step down?

If so I'm even more impressed!!



:nuke:
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 11:27 PM
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18. ROFL
No they're not. What gives you the idea Anonymous is rightwing?
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jacquelope Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 12:14 AM
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20. Anonymous is about anarchy.
Edited on Sun Mar-13-11 12:14 AM by jacquelope
This same group once posted the name and home address of a kid who ran an anti-swearing website, for crying out loud.

This is their way of attaching themselves to a legitimate cause.

Edit: Their motto used to be "do it for the lulz".
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 09:12 AM
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25. It is about anarchy
disestablishing the hierarchical structures that are destroying our planet. The states and institutions created by conventional mechanisms seem ineffective in keeping these structures from doing harm...

I'm not defending Anonymous - I don't have the technological savy to understand what it is doing...

I do know that it is/could be essentially power out of control (i.e., out of the hands of the people whom we elect to represent us in government) and dispersed internationally through a social media horizontally vice vertically as with state or corporate power structures...That is why it is hard for conventional (US military) methods to stop it...I have seen that they represented Private Manning and Julian Assange in their recent defense of Glen Greenwald (covered in an earlier DU article). To some extent, they have been credited with sabotaging a consulting firm out to get Greenwald (over simplification and covered earlier at DU). At this point (from my progressive left of left) they seem to be for the 'greater good'...

But this raises another question - who defines the 'greater good'?

From my perspective, our elected leaders with very, very few exceptions can no longer (at this point in time) be trusted with that heavy responsibility....Is it now left up to Anonymous....If Anonymous is as successful with their earlier project, it is hard to say where this could lead....It has the potential to be a major social force that is akin to a social movement on steroids...

The tipping point, for this kind of activity was Wikkileaks release of documents....one can trace the trajectory from there.

Thanks for listening - this deserves its own discussion...
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grahampuba Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 12:03 PM
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31. its a good motto for a 13 year old..
and now that a few of these have grown in to global social awareness, glad they are using their skills to do something greater.

the end justifies the meme.
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jacquelope Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 12:39 PM
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34. A good motto for a 13 year old?
Not sure what you mean.

What I want to know is why aren't more people a little worried about an organization that would post the name and home address of a child to attack them over a no-swearing website. We protest the US Government for things like this.

I agree with Anonymous's recent attacks on the corporate state, but as a father of four few things scare the s$%t out of me more than my kid exercising harmless non-hateful freedom of speech and some jerks posting his name and home address to terrorize us in retaliation.

It scares me even more that this behavior gets trivialized and forgiven under the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" rule.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:42 PM
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51. What in the world is a no-swearing website? What does it have to do with freedom of speech?
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 01:27 PM
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41. "the end justifies the meme" -- BEAUTY!
nt
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Youth Uprising Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 01:36 PM
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42. That was the old Anonymous...
or "Oldfags", as they're referred to. They where far more interested in causing mischief and wreaking havoc on the internet, than using their skills for the greater good. I used to hate Anonymous, because they helped create this whole internet culture of cruelty and having a laugh at people's misfortunes... I don't know what changed, but I'm a fan of this new, reformed Anonymous. I know Anons don't like it when people try to define Anonymous but I think this press release does a fairly decent job of doing it: http://www.scribd.com/doc/49726676/OpOldfag-doc
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jacquelope Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 01:39 PM
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43. Thank you for the information. That really cleared things up.
Consider me better informed! :D
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:39 PM
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50. This particular anonymous stated that it wants to restore the rule of law.
Normally, anarchists don't want to restore the rule of law.

Why do you call this person or group or whatever an anarchist if it wants to restore the rule of law?
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jacquelope Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:35 PM
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59. Someone else here explained it to me in this thread
There's 2 groups in Anonymous - the older one that only lives for chaos and anarchy, and the new Anonymous that has taken over... they are the more noble ones that you know.
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BobTheSubgenius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 04:42 PM
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55. Actually, that was done by members of 4chan.
Edited on Sun Mar-13-11 04:46 PM by BobTheSubgenius
Edit: Added a verb to form a complete sentence.

On the 4chan board, any post without the 'name' field filled out is posted as "Anonymous". as in the literal definition of the word, not this action group. Perhaps that's where the idea that the group Anonymous was behind it originated. It is true that the member sets of both groups are not mutually exclusive, so it's impossible to say that no Anonymous member is part of 4chan as well.

Also, the kid wasn't exactly hiding his identity under the proverbial bushel; he went on the Dr. Phil show and Leno under his own name, and both he and his father gave other interviews about his campaign. He also published pictures of himself and the name of his high school on the site.

I'm not condoning the hate mail he received as a result, but it's not like he took many steps to protect himself, either. Quite the opposite. Using just the information on his website and public info. pages on the net (Google, whois and white pages), I was able to find the same information (name and address) in under 5 minutes.

It could also be that someone just truly hated the faux gangsta rap theme song of his campaign.

No confrontation intended, just clarification. :)
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 07:25 PM
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65. Apparently what Anonymous is or has become escapes you.

Calling them a 'group' is no longer applicable... if ever it was. 'Anonymous' is defined by its actions. If it targets the innocent or is intended for no other reason than mischief, then it is not 'Anonymous'. Whatever it might have been before, it is now officially an idea. Anon is not a group, not a person, and certainly not merely a name. Therefore only acts that align with the stated goals and beliefs of Anonymous are by Anonymous.

Using the name does not make one's acts those of 'Anonymous', it is the adherence to the code... the idea that does.
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 11:09 AM
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27. LOL you forgot the sarcasm tag.

Almost had me thinking you were serious.
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pam4water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 01:20 PM
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39. Hah? I don't think you have been paying attention. Watch Stephen Colbert to
Edited on Sun Mar-13-11 01:29 PM by pam4water
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pam4water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 01:27 PM
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40. Wonders if it will be about fracking in New York State or Empire State mean something else in this
context.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:23 PM
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58. My guess it is the corporate world which is held together by these
financial instruments and is destroying our world that they are calling Empire. The Feds, IMF, World Bank, etc. We have all watched them force countries to privatize everything they can because of poor loans that did nothing for the countries they gave them to. It is time these institutions be replaced with something more humane and with a better understanding of todays problems - oil depletion, global warming, food shortages, water shortages.
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Youth Uprising Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 01:44 PM
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44. Not true...
Edited on Sun Mar-13-11 02:13 PM by Youth Uprising
Anonymous doesn't have a political affiliation. A fair number of Anons though, happen to be leftist. They are certainly not "right-wing".
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 04:38 PM
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54. Do you get paid hourly
or by the post???
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 08:54 PM
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72. Your disinformation campaign fails.
epic fail, in fact.
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iamtechus Donating Member (868 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 11:00 PM
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11. Self delete
Edited on Sat Mar-12-11 11:01 PM by iamtechus
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 11:13 PM
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12. More on the Grand Chessboard (Brzezinski Foreign Policy)
There are at least two PDF versions available on line of the Grand Chessboard - this is one of two I found
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2006/10/119973.pdf


You can also check out via youtube - Michael Rupert's lecture on Brzezinski and the Grand Chessboard

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZVeZLRWp4o
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsSwy0ihvhU&feature=related

Finally, Here is an Amy Goodman Interview on Democracy Now who references the Rupert lectures
Why I know Obama is a Phony – Obama and Brzezinski
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDpLK0e0QoU&feature=related
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 11:28 PM
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19. thanks! n/t
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 11:15 PM
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13. kr
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 11:24 PM
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17. Mario Savio, Sproul Hall, December 2, 1964
Good for them.

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2banon Donating Member (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 02:58 PM
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47. Yes,.. Mario Salvio . very appropriate.
Edited on Sun Mar-13-11 03:00 PM by 2banon
R.I.P. :toast:

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Mybrokenchains Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 12:20 AM
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21. All Anonymi, Acolytes And Archdukes Assemble Amidst A99
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Kip Humphrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 12:49 AM
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22. B.I.S. ...Does this mean their global exchange script will be devalued?
One can hope for small favors.
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 01:56 AM
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23. the SDR's (Special Drawing Rights) are the purview of the IMF, not the BIS
Edited on Sun Mar-13-11 02:01 AM by stockholmer
http://www.imf.org/external/np/fin/data/rms_sdrv.aspx

The Chinese yuan is on tap to be added to the basket of currencies, as now France hs come on board to support the idea as well.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2011-01/29/c_13711743.htm


Meanwhile, the US dollar continues to plummet in value, due to the Federal Reserve's policy of quantitative easing, and near zero interest rates.

They are winning the global dash for Central Banks to debase their own currencies, in order to inflate their way out of ever-increasing debt service payments.

But this is also leading to tremendous inflation, especially in commodities on a global basis (87% of all global transactions are still priced in US dollars). This explosion in food, petrol, and staple prices is part of the reason why you have the unrests and revolts all across the world.

Now, a brand new crisis is also coming to the US, as Japan (the 3rd biggest holder of US Treasuries in the world) will be forced to sell of billions of these to finance the earthquake damage repair. This will force the Fed to even further monetize its own debt by buying its own treasuries, something they have been doing already to the tune of trillions in just the last couple of years.

This will further cause the US dollar to collapse. The critical point to watch is 72 on the US DX. (see chart link below)

If this support level is breached, you will see a waterfall down into the low 60's or even the high 50's, and the potential fuse to hyper-inflationary scenarios will have been further lit afire.

see this chart for a sad tale on the dollar in the last 8 or 9 years (40% drop since 2002)
http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/US/M


Here is the latest report from the BIS, it gives an in-depth view into the global Central Banks level of manipulation at multi-variate levels.

The future of central banking under post-crisis mandates
http://www.bis.org/publ/bppdf/bispap55.pdf
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 07:50 PM
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66. Thanks very much for this post
you describe the situation very well. When I try to do this, the eyes of my friends glaze over.
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 08:02 PM
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67. And,
your post reveals but the tip of the iceberg.

We are witnessing the initial throes of a catastophic reorganization of our global economy. The hedonists who believe their inordinate wealth will protect them are about to learn otherwise.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 08:51 PM
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71. That should make for a very interesting phenomena for the rest of
us who have little to barter. But you know what? It's either going to get bad under the rule of the hedonists, or it's going to get bad without them.

I prefer....without them.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 08:30 AM
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24. Why did our Democratic President re-appoint a right wing, "free" trader?
The re-appointment of Bernanke stands out like a sore thumb. Our Democratic President could have found no one else more committed to continuing the policies of Greenspan and the bushes, except for maybe Geithner.

Why does he even bother with identifying himself as a Democrat?
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 10:10 AM
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26. You are exactly correct.
Sore thumb!

If we have any doubts as to why Obama signed a bill to extend the Bush tax cuts look no further than that sore thumb. Same with the FICA holiday.

We are certainly on our own. Expecting Obama to do anything for the 'lesser people' is fool's gold.
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 12:30 PM
Response to Reply #24
33. Because it is still his biggest source of money.
And all of the right wing positions are taken. 
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 07:11 PM
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64. Because his biggest campaign donor was Goldman Sachs? fasttense, do
I get extra credit?

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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 11:40 AM
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28. Nice. I came here to post this, but its already here!
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LinkUP Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 11:42 AM
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29. Not very well made
compared to their previous videos, but some are better than others, good stuff though
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disillusioned73 Donating Member (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 12:09 PM
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32. I was under the impression this was their first...
is there a link to others??
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 12:55 PM
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36. I posted this within 20 minutes of it being dropped on Amped(their partner)more to come soon
link to AmpedNetwork is in OP
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LinkUP Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 01:15 PM
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38. Operation Egypt
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bluecoat_fan Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 11:56 AM
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30. K&R
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mia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 12:45 PM
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35. the shivering logo and the siren make this look silly. n/t
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 08:07 PM
Response to Reply #35
68. Please...
can we agree to let the Freepers corner the market on whinging, naysaying and negativity?
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IDeClaire Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 01:11 PM
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37. Civil Disobedience
This is my first post. I just joined DU but have been lurking for awhile.

I was interested to hear Anonymous speak of committing civil disobedience because this is a topic I'd like to learn more about.
Especially here in WI - while we're waiting for recalls and elections, what else can be done? This is a discussion for another
place in the forum, I'm sure, but it's good to see it mentioned in the video.
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 01:44 PM
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45. welcome to DU
:hi:
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 01:56 PM
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46. 2 manuals on civil disobedience, one for us, one how they will react
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 04:46 PM
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57. yes, welcome to DU
Any organization that wants to bother the top .1% of our population is alright with me.

TAX THE RICH!

I have always been a fan of Robin Hood.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:21 PM
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48. K&R
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:38 PM
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49. Oh Yeah!
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 03:44 PM
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52. gives a little guy some hope!
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 04:14 PM
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53. Political leanings and understanding seem to be very muddled in this group.
Edited on Sun Mar-13-11 04:16 PM by DireStrike
They refer to allying with or using people like Ron Paul, Alex Jones.

This is a bit of a problem. Certainly a lot of people can be radicalized through these venues. There have been huge movements on the internet in these veins. But the only useful purpose is radicalization. Alex Jones and Ron Paul certainly don't have the answers.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 04:43 PM
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56. K&R
"To whom do lions cast their gentle looks?
Not to the beast that would usurp their den.
Whose hand is that the forest bear doth lick?
Not his that spoils her young before her face.
Who 'scapes the lurking serpent's mortal sting?
Not he that sets his foot upon her back.
The smallest worm will turn being trodden on,
And doves will peck in safeguard of their brood."


-Henry VI, Act 2, Scene 2
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:58 PM
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60. Wow!
:applause:

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Charleston Chew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 06:08 PM
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61. this is bullshit
There is no solid evidence to link any of this to Anon.

These YouTubes that are posted at DU probably have no affiliation w/ Anon. In fact, I know Anon looks down on YT.


And for the record, Anon is not left wing and are not right wing. They are all about chaos and fucking shit up.


It would be in your best interest to let Anon do their thing and just not bother with what they are up to.
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Mybrokenchains Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 06:31 PM
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62. hahaaaaaaaaaaaaa...sadface
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 08:10 PM
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69. Again,
can we agree to let the Freepers corner the market on whinging, naysaying and negativity?
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Charleston Chew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 08:41 PM
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70. What about facts?
Who is going to corner that market? I am only stating facts.

If you perceive my facts as being negative then that is all on you.
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 10:34 PM
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75. Call it what you will...
your 'facts' are no less and no more valid than those enumerated hereinabove. And, calling 'bullshit' on anything is evincing a negative stance, by definition.
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 09:54 PM
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74. this should clear thing up, I just posted a further explanation video and links here on DU, cheers!
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irislake Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 06:51 PM
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63. God I hope this works!
We are on the edge of the abyss!
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 09:34 PM
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73. +100 k&r
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