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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:11 PM
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Before Meltdown, GOP Mocked Concerns About Nuclear Safety
 
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Posted on YouTube: March 15, 2011
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http://thinkprogress.org/2011/03/15/video-gop-nuclear-safety/
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:19 PM
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1. Yes, Senator McCain, obviously "no one ever anticipated"...
...such an event "outside of science fiction movies".

Well, except for all of the thousands upon thousands of activists and concerned citizens over the years who have tried to point out that the worst case scenario is really, really, really bad. It doesn't just kill a bunch of people right away, but it continues killing them (not just people, but animals too), and affects the environment for thousands of years.

heh heh

smirk

ya, that's funny
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:32 PM
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4. Yeah, I got to give a lecture on Sunday.
A friend in his 70's insisted that a "meltdown" is/was a Hollywood construct.

The propagandists have been very busy.
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inademv Donating Member (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:33 PM
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6. The Gulf is still dead
Just a reminder that there has been exponentially more environmental damage from oil and coal power operations.
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 08:21 PM
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10. Oh! You're right. So then, nuclear
power really IS safe!! I guess I just had to hear it from a POV like yours to understand. Silly me.
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inademv Donating Member (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 10:28 PM
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14. It's safe by comparison
Remind me, which one stripped the trees from the top of most southern Canadian mountains? Which power source killed a wide swath of Alaska's shoreline? Which power source is contributing to what could very well be the event(climate change) catalyzing the downfall of our civilization?
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Charleston Chew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 10:36 PM
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15. progressive?
You're on as if the only choices are fossil or nuclear. There are other options.
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inademv Donating Member (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 10:38 PM
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17. Renewable energy doesn't fit the bill
Edited on Tue Mar-15-11 10:39 PM by inademv
with current electricity storage and transmission technology, it also does not provide for minimum baseload needs. I look forward to the day when it is viable but it just isn't right now and we're quickly running out of time to slow the damage we're doing to the environment.
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 10:36 PM
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16. Wow...
So, the fact that oil and coal have created 'exponentially more environmental damage' somehow mitigates the damage done by these nuclear power plants?!?

Sigh...

I've been an anti-nuclear activist since I was 16, and I am now 55. I remain convinced that we humans CAN conceive of and create clean energy technology. However, the Corporatists who make their biggest profits from oil, coal, and nuclear industries--and the pathetic, easily-manipulated people who carry their water--ridicule me and other activists like me, then spend millions of dollars to convince their sycophants that we're the leftist 'loons.' How 'richly' ironic!

I think the corporatists who've made the MOST profits from nuclear power should be the ones who have to go in there and clean up the mess...
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inademv Donating Member (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 10:40 PM
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18. All 3 messes
I question the conviction of any anti-nuclear activist that isn't anti-oil and anti-coal as well.
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 11:21 PM
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19. Yeah, well...
I didn't think I had to mention that I'm anti all forms of power that are polluting our globe AND sustaining radical income inequity. Nuclear power became my focus in my early activism because the corporatists were pushing to build more plants, and we activists wanted to -- and did -- stop them.

I hope you are a fellow activist, and not a water carrier.
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inademv Donating Member (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:17 AM
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20. If you're anti-pollution then why aren't you protesting
the dozens of major oil spills that happen every year. Why aren't you protesting in upstate New York where they can light their tap water on fire because of the natural gas mining. Why is your focus a form of energy that is less disruptive than coal, responsible for the acid rains that have stripped the flora from the tops of Canadian mountains?

Honestly, of all the things you could protest it seems that nuclear would be so much lower on your priority list if your concern was protecting the environment.
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 03:20 AM
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22. Sigh...
Why do you assume that you know what I am and am not protesting? You haven't a clue, and you seem bent on being argumentative--bad combo, and quite unproductive.

Welcome to my ignore list, where you'll no longer be a waste of my time.
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RandySF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:20 PM
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2. "No one ever anticipated"
Where did I hear that before?
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Charleston Chew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:32 PM
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5. that does sound familiar
Edited on Tue Mar-15-11 07:37 PM by Charleston Chew
'No One Could Have Anticipated' Terrorists Flying Planes Into Buildings'


except maybe Chris Carter
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Devil_Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 12:17 AM
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25. No one could have anticipated the levees in New Orleans would be breached. NT
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:30 PM
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3. Will they walk it back, or just refuse to admit to ever having made these statements?
Either way, we probably won't have to hear them spewing Nnewcuelur ignorance for some time. Maybe the adults (and a couple of genuine scientists) will pick up the slack and we'll have an honest conversation about all things energy, for a change.
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Charleston Chew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:48 PM
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7. with one 'S'
Laugh Out Loud @ "OfficialThinkProgres"

'Official' my ass.
Someone is up to shenanigans, but what is their motive?
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JJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:58 PM
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8. Clarification?
At the end, is McCain talking about his VP vetting process and failed campaign?
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Swampguana Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 08:13 PM
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9. Unfortunately
most people won't remember all of what they said before about nuclear safety. They themselves probably don't remember.
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WhoIsNumberNone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 08:48 PM
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11. Who could ever have imagined a nuclear (sorry- nukuler) power plant melting down?
Maybe ask the Russians?
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 09:40 PM
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12. fucking pieces of shit... everyone of them
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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 09:54 PM
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13. There is no way to anticipate the obvious!
That is proven every time the inevitable happens.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:19 AM
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21. I don't care for Pres Obama but the alternative?
SUCKED!
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 05:28 PM
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23. Yeah,
I'm sure those mockers are laying low now...
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-11 05:10 AM
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24. kick
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