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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 04:13 PM
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A BURIED 60 Minutes INTERVIEW / INDICTMENT
 
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Posted on DU: September 22, 2007
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The video employs clips from a 2004 "60 Minutes" Interview with 2001-2003 Secretary of the Treasury, Paul O'Neil. O'Neil,a Permanent Member of the then formed NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL (NSC), was eventually FIRED in 2003, for what he OPPOSED and witnessed in the Early days of the JUST elected 2001 Bush Whitehouse.

He was appalled at the Secrecy and Contradictions in the George Bush he thought he knew. It was apparent a new agenda was rolling...and he wanted NO part in it. War plans were in the works, long BEFORE the 911 World Trade Center attack. Far from a tragedy, 911 was an OPPORTUNITY for the Bush/Cheney White House to proceed with Plans.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 04:19 PM
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1. I take it that this video has just been discovered. Is that right?
If so, then "wow!
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 04:22 PM
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2. This is a Ron Paul campaign video.
And Ron Paul is a Randian objectivist libertarian wackjob. He's right on the war; somewhere to the right of Darth Vader on everything else.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 04:41 PM
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3. i hope not...if it is i'm sorry and yes ron paul is a wackjob...
Edited on Sat Sep-22-07 04:43 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
it possibly could be ...but i didn't see any ron paul support.in it... i'm off to watch it again and if it is i hope the mods delete it.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 04:43 PM
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5. Run it to the very end, there's a Ron Paul for president statement.
Otherwise it's an interesting bit -- no reason to delete as long as there's a fair warning as to its origin.
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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 06:44 PM
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11. Maybe but he speaks many truths
I don't agree with his idea of abolishing whole departments although the bureaucracy has become so corrupted even that might not be such a bad idea. But Paul's call to get back to a basic constitutional government, reigning in the executive run amok, is music to my ears.
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ralphmich3 Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 09:29 PM
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16. Ron Paul is exactly right about Iraq.....
I don't believe in any of Paul's domestic, economic or social agenda but on the war he is right and his analysis is, for the most part, correct.

He is saying things that all the mainstream Democrats (Clinton Dodd Biden) should be saying but are too cowardly and politically calculating to say. It is a shame that the Democrats cannot, in their campaigns, tell the truth to the American people occasionally .

BTW - for those of you who have forgotten Clinton, Dodd, John Kerry and Biden all, voted for the authorization of force.... the biggest foreign policy disaster since the Gulf of Tonkin resolution...

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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 04:42 PM
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4. NSC
Edited on Sat Sep-22-07 04:43 PM by salvorhardin
A couple of nits picked...

The video employs clips from a 2004 "60 Minutes" Interview with 2001-2003 Secretary of the Treasury, Paul O'Neil. O'Neil,
a Permanent Member
of the
then formed NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL
(NSC), was eventually FIRED in 2003, for what he OPPOSED and witnessed in the Early days of the JUST elected 2001 Bush Whitehouse.


The National Security Council has been around since Truman. It wasn't just formed on Bush's watch. Also, there's no such thing as a "Permanent" member of the NSC. There are statutory and non-statutory members; i.e. those members whose offices automatically make them members by law and those members who are allowed to sit in at the discretion of the President. When a statutory member leaves their office they leave the National Security Council. O'Neil's office as Secretary of the Treasury made him a statutory member.

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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 05:33 PM
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9. If this video has something to do with Ron Paul than getting rid of the 1947 NSA act is a start for
dissolving the CIA.


The National Security Act of 1947 mandated a major reorganization of the foreign policy and military establishments of the U.S. Government. The act created many of the institutions that Presidents found useful when formulating and implementing foreign policy, including the National Security Council (NSC). The Council itself included the President, Vice President, Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, and other members (such as the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency), who met at the White House to discuss both long-term problems and more immediate national security crises. A small NSC staff was hired to coordinate foreign policy materials from other agencies for the President. Beginning in 1953 the President's Assistant for National Security Affairs directed this staff. Each President has accorded the NSC with different degrees of importance and has given the NSC staff varying levels of autonomy and influence over other agencies such as the Departments of State and Defense. President Dwight D. Eisenhower, for example, used the NSC meetings to make key foreign policy decisions, while John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson preferred to work more informally through trusted associates. Under President Richard M. Nixon, the NSC staff, then headed by Henry A. Kissinger, was transformed from a coordinating body into an organization that actively engaged in negotiations with foreign leaders and implementing the President's decisions. The NSC meetings themselves, however, were infrequent and merely confirmed decisions already agreed upon by Nixon and Kissinger.

The act also established the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), which grew out of World War II era Office of Strategic Services and small post-war intelligence organizations. The CIA served as the primary civilian intelligence-gathering organization in the government. Later, the Defense Intelligence Agency became the main military intelligence body. The 1947 law also caused far-reaching changes in the military establishment. The War Department and Navy Department merged into a single Department of Defense under the Secretary of Defense, who also directed the newly created Department of the Air Force. However, each of the three branches maintained their own service secretaries. In 1949 the act was amended to give the Secretary of Defense more power over the individual services and their secretaries.

http://www.iwar.org.uk/sigint/resources/national-security-act/1947-act.htm

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keopeli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 04:50 PM
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6. The last 15 seconds say "Vote for Ron Paul". I remember this interview - too little, too late
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 04:54 PM
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7. That isn't Impeachable?????????
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 05:22 PM
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8. As people have reported.....
bush would mow citizens down on TV and he still would not be impeached. Guaranteed
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 05:43 PM
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10. I'm neither a Ron Paul supporter nor a Libertarian but that doesn't make...
...the information uncovered by Ron Suskind any less damning.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 08:17 PM
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12. kick! eom!
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DianaForRussFeingold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 08:33 PM
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13. Thank You! GREAT FIND! Sent to the greatest page where it belongs
;) I'm so glad I checked the older videos to give it a K&R! This really needs some exposure! Paul O'Neil was one of the good guys :patriot: Unfortunatly he was fired for doing his job being a true Patriot! :cry:
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 08:59 PM
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14. The worst part of all this, most still dont see what has been going on.
Everyone forgets that there was only one person with enough credibility to stand up and say that this war was about oil, and voted against it. The rest looked at the same information he did and decided to go to war and spread the propaganda against Saddam, WHY IS THAT?Why did these same people play political games and continue to fund the war all of this time? When more Americans wake up and realize that this is not a one sided money making machine and that both sides are playing political games with us all so they can continue their way of life and stay in power. This is also why I believe the media wants nothing to do with the guy that stood up back in 2002, he stands for honesty and the people, not the corporate fraud going on in politics these days.

They keep us hating each other, Democrats and Republicans as they rape us and the country. I fear that it will be too late by the time enough Americans wake up. They have already started to attack our constitution, arresting people who stand against them, they have Blackwater on our own soil, Haliburton is signing contracts to build detention camps on our soil, what else is there? For the sake of my family and my future, I wish people would take part in saving our country from this corruption.

I think these upcoming primaries are the most important ones of my lifetime!
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 09:08 PM
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15. People are going to be unhappy with what I say - this 'reminder' makes
Edited on Sat Sep-22-07 09:12 PM by higher class
me even more furious with our Dem leaders. They are as war loving as dick and george. They appear to bow even lower to the corporations and conglomerates of barons and their rotten politicans, military brass, ceo's, reverneds, and think tanks. I say they are worse because more was expected of them (by me). They are cheating us equal to dick and george who promised no nation building when imperialism was being planned. Because they also believe in perpetual war.

Everyday I think about the few people I know who laughed at me over the years for thinking Dems were superior and holier - way before all this destruction of our country. They had more foresight than I could take in at the time.

Yes, this clip has made me more furious. I seethe. And every citizen should watch it and know.

DUers and others knew the war was phoney because we pieced it together, but this film (political jab) shakes me terribly. I either didn't see this interview or just considered proof of my conclusions.

Now, it leaves me furious because of what I witness from our candidates and Dem leaders and their lowly, deadly cave-ins.

I can't vote for Ron Paul. But, in some ways he is one heck of a better citizen than some of our war and corporate profit lovers.

No way will I support some of the more obvious ones and the iffy ones will have to go a long way to prove that they are and can be different.

If ever there was reason to change the way we think - it is now. We can't keep going on this way. millions billions trillions being pissed away on death and control. Hello! I know how to speak a couple of words of Chinese. How about you? Russian anyone?
At this point, I don't care who brought it to us. Things are dire in this country.

And who are we going to turn to - war loving candidates? Candidates who we are suspicious of - candidates who we think might do this to us again - just under a different cover?

Christmas is coming and I challenge all you holiday loving peole of any denomination to not enter any area where it says Peace on Earth if you support death, torment, torture, maiming, cutbacks, destruction, deceit as much as some of our Dem leaders appear to do by their vote and by not speaking out so that you can believe them and by not telling it like it is as the supporters of Ron Paul have done.

This is probably the most forthright piece of candidacy position as anyone has ever put together.

We just can't pussy foot around with Dem candidates.

The citizens of the U.S. who can't start getting it do not deserve their rights - rights that this administration have already laughingly taken and the rest to come - because we don't care about anything except sports, serials, shopping, and celebrities. But now, some are waking up because they don't have as much money for sports, serials, shopping, and learning about celebrities.
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 09:38 PM
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17. My Republican friend says Ron Paul is a nut. I told him, 'yeah ..but he's your nut' nt

Good 60 Minutes video.
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