Howard Stern on Victoria Jackson homophobic statements

[romantico]

Run time: 13:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E07QCyLOI0M   Posted on YouTube: March 27, 2011 By YouTube Member: trentmorrison Views on YouTube: 247   Posted on DU: March 27, 2011 By DU Member: romantico Views on DU: 6411

 
I know a lot people have issues with Howard Stern, but I have been agreeing with him more and more lately. He nails it here while discussing hate monger Victoria Jackson.

[Faygo Kid]

1. Not usually a Stern fan, but this is excellent.

Listened to all of it, and glad I did.

[Kurovski]

3. He made some very good points.

Especially about adoption and kids.

Agreed, Worth the 12 minutes.

[savalez]

32. Good clip. I really like what he says from the 5:00 mark on.

He slams Republicans for their crazy attacks on Planned Parenthood, Gays in the military and Abortion. Then he wraps it up with a pro-adoption rant and caps it off by slamming the birthers. I'm glad the said this stuff because lots of people listen to his show.

[Hawaii Hiker]

36. I've been listening to him over 15 years

He's very socially liberal (he's voted for every democratic candiate for president since 1992)...Some don't like his jokes and the skits, but I've always enjoyed his show...He had a great rant on Sarah Palin a couple months ago that someone posted here as well...

[kag]

40. More power to ya'

I had to stop about half way through so I would have to listen the nails-on-chalkboard that is Victoria Jackson's voice. It's not bad enough that she's an idiot. That voice is just painful.

[noamnety]

2. not watching it

because at best, even if he nailed this issue, he's one hell of a hate mongering hypocrite.

"I just wanna take that piece of ass body, put tape over her mouth, and do things to her. . And then like, I reach in, I yank out her vocal cords and then she just orally satisfies me by the pool. Oh, she’s totally a mute Kim. And she’s totally nude. . And then I break her legs and position them in the back of her head so that she’s sitting, and they’re permanently fixed like that." -- Howard Stern

[whathehell]

4. Stern trades Homophobic statements for Mysogynist ones..Sorry, not watching either.

[seabeyond]

6. and then people defend with no, he doesnt hate women. look robin, his wife... scum is

what he is.

and i agree... not watching either

[roxiejules]

7. Ditto

I don't do Stern.

[Le Taz Hot]

13. And the first hit he takes on her?

She's fat. Cheap, stupid and obvious shot.

[AlbertCat]

25. She's fat.

Let's see... he mentions she's fatter than when he used to have her on his show. Then, after she rants and rails about the Bible saying being gay is a sin, Howard points out that gluttony is also a sin and maybe Victoria should look to herself first before pointing fingers at everyone else.


Didn't seem so cheap and stupid to me.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

38. It's also relevant to the fact Vicky thinks Hollywood had abandoned her....

....because she's a Christian conservative. I say it's because in addition to having little talent, her looks were vital to the only role she could play, the cute blonde ditz.

[whathehell]

5. Stern's a hypocritical hate monger himself...He's a mysogynist...Not watching.

[CatWoman]

12. you keep repeating that

so why come on the thread??

you would do yourself a favor to watch it.

[AlbertCat]

33. so why come on the thread??

Must be the "new" liberal open mindedness

[whathehell]

54. Because I feel like it.

Apparently the (not so new) liberal "open mindedness"

thinks homophobia is bad but shitting on females

isn't.

Sorry, a lot of us in the latter group call bullshit hypocrisy on that.

[whathehell]

53. Yes, I do

because some here appear

to be slow learners.:shrug:

[WhoIsNumberNone]

8. An amusing footnote to the whole Victoria Jackson thing

Here's what one small time right wing blogger had to say about Victoria Jackson:

Victoria Jackson is a Shill for Obama

President Obama has been secretly manipulating Conservative media. An anonymous hack of HBGary Inc's emails reveals that US Secretary of State personally appealed to former SNL Alum Victoria Jackson to maliciously spread ridiculous claims on the site. I'd love to see her source on this- I just went to anonleaks and couldn't find anything to support this claim- #0)Employing thousands of fake accounts on World Net Daily Jackson would attain an inflated role in Conservative media- leaving real conservatives no choice but to repeat Jackson asinine ravings. This would in tern lead the intellectual backers of the conservative party to leave and become Libertarians.

Experts agree that so far the plan has worked. so far. CNN political analyst David Gergen calling it the most Orwellian way to destroy what used to be a valid political party. Gergen went on to explain "What people don't understand is that 5 years ago- the Republicans weren't all fat, old, white men afraid of everything- there used to be smart people too, but when you've got people like Jackson talking about Obama's transgender army , of course everyone with a shred of dignity is going to leave. Then you end up with a party of fat old guys jacking it to that pig faced Asian lady."

It will come as no surprise to Obama's critics that his Obama's own arrogance may have been what caused the plan to ultimately be revealed. In his mad desire for control over the Conservative movement, Obama is said to have ordered 15,000 fake accounts on World Net Daily. This would give Obama the ability to control every third message posted to World Net Daily. HBGary inc, was the only company capable of delivering the accounts. It is unknown how many accounts were created, but it is known that the accounts are still active. World Net Daily Founder Joseph Farah, who spoke on the condition of anonymity replied to accusations of assisting Obama by saying "Obama was offering to pay me to use my site. As a conservative- I had to let the market decide. Anyway the Obama bots are easy enough to spot if you look closely enough."

The leaders of the Conservative movement have been calling for Jackson to step down in the wake of the scandal. Others, have been demanding all their leaders submit to a lie detector while taking a conservative purity pledge. As of press time there are only two figureheads who refused to take the test: Victoria Jackson, and former RNC Chairman Michael Steele.

(Again- no sourcing anywhere in the article- The only link she includes is to a World Net Daily article about Obama trying to force the military to accept gays/transgenders.)

[AlbertCat]

34. Oooooo... interesting! Can you say "tin foil helmut"?

:tinfoilhat:

But what do TERNS have to do with it?

This would in tern lead the intellectual backers ... to use the right word, perhaps.

Others, have been demanding all their leaders submit to a lie detector while taking a conservative purity pledge.

That's really funny! Lie detectors! When are they gonna demand lie detector tests while they ask "are JOBS your #1 priority, Mr. Boehner?"

"What people don't understand is that 5 years ago- the Republicans weren't all fat, old, white men afraid of everything-

They've been "fat, old, white men afraid of everything" for as long as I've lived! And I was born in 1957. Just because William F. Buckley APPEARED intellegent...

Don't blame Liberals for allowing the John Birch Society and fundigelicals to have power.

[SemperEadem]

9. she deserves to be excoriated and Stern does it with aplomb

jackson should never be allowed any space between herself and her comments.

[Chimichurri]

10. This was great! He used to endorse the republicans when he was on radio in NY

Good to hear he's not on board with this brand of crazies.

He's so funny and I hope he comes back to terrestrial radio on day.

[whathehell]

57. That was until he got in trouble with the FCC.

Now he's a born again progressive.:eyes:

[MNBrewer]

11. I detest them both. Not watching.

[CatWoman]

14. I don't understand

why do the Stern haters come on this thread, just to tell us they hate him.

This isn't about them.

[titaniumsalute]

15. People believe what they want to believe

I've listened to Stern for years. I never really listened to it for the T&A material. That is not my cup of tea. But about 80% of his show isn't T&A material.

Like thousands of other comedians, he's a performer. He's not a misogynist. He built a career saying shocking things to do just that...SHOCK. Just like George Carlin, Richard Pryor, Robin Williams, Sarah Silverman, Joan Rivers, Gilbert Gottfried, etc.

As someone who did talk radio I can tell you many times you say things to "get the lines going." You say things to get the competitor to talk about you. You say things to get people to call the station GM and complain. You say things to make people talk about you to other people. You say things to get ratings. Stern is the master of doing this. He's built a media empire based on this.

I always ask Stern haters to reference one time he's been in the media for doing ANYTHING bad off the air. They can never name anything. I know people that know him directly. He's a pussycat off the air. He's never had a DUI, drug overdose, been reported to beat his wife (either one of them), never harmed his daughters, never stirred the pot. It's an act folks, not reality.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

18. He's playing a character

He's every bit that angry white male frustrated with the world but reveals his own feelings of total inadequacy and self-loathing while doing it. The other difference is that unlike Rush Limpballs or O'Lielly (who never reveal their own shortcomings and weakness), he doesn't expect anyone to take him seriously and make political decisions based on it.

[crim son]

21. Agreed. I've never been able to listen to Carlin for more than three minutes

without wanting to throw up; nevertheless he appealed to a certain audience and maybe that audience might otherwise not have ever heard his rather enlightened perspective. Same thing with Stern.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

16. Because their outrage must be heard!

And you must accept it!

[noamnety]

44. Because people speak out against bigots here.

I'm surprised you're surprised.

If someone presented a video of David Duke talking intelligently about a select form of bigotry, I would speak out against that as well.

[seabeyond]

46. because some duers embrace a sexist scuz when we are suppose to be progressive

and if we were to put up something limbaugh said that we agreed with, you would have many on to call him out for what he is.

stern doesnt belong on du, regardless how many times his words are brought here.

any progressive should reject the man. but then sexism is not so much an issue. racism, homophobia, whole different animal

[Aryo]

17. Stern is a disgusting racist as well

Routinely calls for the mass murder of Arabs.

[rfranklin]

22. See Post No. 15...

It's an act.

[Chorophyll]

24. Who cares if it's "an act?"

It's an act he's been banking on for almost thirty years, and frankly it's an act that de-legitimizes any decent opinions he might hold in real life.

[blondeatlast]

27. As I say above--Limbaugh says it's all an act, too. I'm not about to let him off

with that--same with Stern.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

37. Except Rush Limbaugh expects to be taken as a serious political influence

Stern does not.

[titaniumsalute]

29. Carol O'Conner Banked on it also

Everyone knew it was just Archie Bunker but it was an act.

Limbaugh is an act. Yes I don't like what he says...but he's an entertainer. He has a right to say stupid shit and we have a right not to listen. But it's an act with him.

For whatever reason I don't think Sean Hannity is an act. He seems a little TOO serious about his spew.

[Chorophyll]

31. Um, Carol O'Connor was a professional actor, playing a character named

Archie Bunker on a sitcom, for which writers wrote scripts. He didn't go on the air as HIMSELF calling people dingbats and meatheads.

In a similar vein, James Earl Jones isn't really Darth Vader.

In short: analogy fail.

[titaniumsalute]

41. No fail at all Chorophyll

Actually you made my point. These ARE actors. Whether you are playing a role on a sitcom, a TV talk show host, a radio talk show host, it is an acting role. Stern and his crew WRITE the show every day. Yes some of it is spontaneous, but much of it is done through planned bits and parodies.

Do you think you KNOW Oprah because you watch her show? You don't know anything about who she is off the air. How about Dr. Phil? Dr. Laura? You don't know anything about who these people are because they are actors/entertainers.

People thought they knew Mel Gibson...especially the religious folks. Then he gets shit-faced in public and goes on a verbal tirade against the Jews. Then later tapes release of him threatening to kill his wife and a bunch of other horrible things.

How about Jerry Springer? He has a rather interesting show. He has come clean many times saying he never watches his own show. He's an entertainer and does the gig because it pays a fortune.

[Chorophyll]

50. This is ridiculous.

Once more:

Carol O'Connor played a character named Archie Bunker. He did not have a radio show called "Carol O'Connor" on which he spewed a bunch of opinions that he didn't hold in real life.

Oprah, Dr. Phil, Dr. Laura, Jerry Springer -- ALL have shows on which they are ostensibly portraying THEMSELVES. It's not "Oprah Winfrey as Margaret Krabappel in 'A Room Full of Schmucks,' it is merely Oprah Winfrey, despite scripts and directors.

Personally, I don't feel that I "know" any of these people, nor do I care to.

Now go study television and learn the difference between a sitcom and a talk show. Thanks.

[titaniumsalute]

51. Not ridiculous at all my friend

Your original statement was: "it's an act that de-legitimizes any decent opinions he might hold in real life."

The question is why? An act is an act. Why would that de-legitimize anything he says? You said your self that it's an act and yet he has a "real life" outside of being on the air. What's the difference if it is radio or TV?

YOU might not like a certain brand of humor...and YOU might think his act de-legitimizes any other decent opinions...but to ME that is short cited and narrow thinking.

[whathehell]

58. It's a bad analogy, my friend

and I would bet that any criticism of Stern would consititue "short cited (sic) and narrow thinking" to you.




P.S. It's "short sighted", not short "cited".

[titaniumsalute]

60. I stand corrected on cited versus sighted. Long day.

You'd lose your bet about Stern criticism. This isn't about defending Stern. There's been plenty of things he has said over the years that turned me off. The same thing goes for many comedians.

But that still doesn't change my opinion that because an entertainer says something stupid occasionlly de-legitimizes any other opinion they have in "real-life." That's ridiculous.

[whathehell]

62. Sorry, but I don't buy the he's playing a "character" bit...That's used as a "cover" for

when he says something particularly heinous.

Chlorophyll was right..Archie Bunker is a "character" -- Howard Stern is Howard Stern

As for the idea that he "says something 'stupid' occasionally"..Many of us

would change 'stupid' to "abusive" "ugly" and "bigoted" and the "occasionally"

to "lots of times".

I'm sure that it's likely even a KKK member says SOMETHING worthwhile about SOMETHING

once or twice in their lives, but that doesn't mean I intend to listen to him when he does, especially since

it's unlikely to be something I've YET to hear from anyone else interested in this issue.

Sorry, but there's lots of better minds than Stern's I can turn to, if I feel the need.

BTW, I notice that, like most who like Stern here, you're a male.

Big Surprise, because in Stern's world, everyone EXCEPT White progressive Males

deserves a put down and it's easy to be "tolerant" of his "stupid" remarks, when YOU

are not the Target of them.

Too many "progressive" here men have yet to "get" that.

[Chorophyll]

61. Once more, my friend:

Carol O'Connor: played a character named Archie Bunker on TV.
Howard Stern: goes on radio (and has been on TV) as HOWARD STERN.

And yes, as Howard Stern, he has said a lot of truly loathsome shit. If I want my opinion of Victoria Jackson seconded, I would not "cite" Howard Stern as a source.

Ta-ta.

[whathehell]

63. You are correct, Chorophyll...Stern distances himself as a "character" for occasions when

he's said something more hideous than his usual spew.

It's bullshit for the apologists and the attempt to analogize him

him to "Archie Bunker" could hardly be more tortured.:eyes:

[immoderate]

59. What about Jack Benny?

He played himself, sort of. Was he a miser and a terrible violinist? Did he hate Fred Allen?

--imm

[blondeatlast]

26. So is Limbaugh--or so he says. Just sayin'--I don't have a dog in this fight. nt

[joeglow3]

30. Limbaugh says the same thing.

Do you excuse him for his "act?"

[AlbertCat]

35. Limbaugh says the same thing.

I think the difference is:

Stern expects his audience to know he is an act.

Limbaugh expects his audience to believe he's really NOT an act and he only says that to deflect librul critics.

[titaniumsalute]

42. I couldn't have said it better AlbertCat

The shows actually don't compare at all. Limbaugh sits around making up facts to his various claims regarding politics. He preaches his facts as gospel and truth. We can easily sit around and debunk his lies which is exactly what we do. But I also understand he's an entertainer. I don't know Limbaugh personally and don't have any idea what he's like off the air. His on-air persona is certainly rascist. But does he care either way off-air about race?? Who knows for sure.

Of course one thing we do know is that Limbaugh has doctor-shopped for illegal prescription drugs, got caught, lied about it, and made it go away. Then he has trashed junkies and other addicts on-air for being weak, weak-minded, foolish and other hateful things. So far I haven't seen Stern busted for something and then lying his pants off to hide the truth.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

19. He used to have her on the show when she was "relevant"

I'd love to hear him get her back on the air to shred her, but even a dunce like her desperate for airtime is probably just smart enough to avoid that. I'm sure she thinks he's a "Jew devil" now.

[Deep13]

20. Jackson makes me doubt evolution.

Natural selection should have killed off anyone this stupid ages ago.

NB: I'm at work, so I did not see the video.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

23. Man, someone should use that line on her when she makes an appearance

Knockout!

[MedicalAdmin]

39. Thanks for completely misunderstanding evolution.

Omg - but I getthe point I think you are trying to say. She's a throwback.

[Deep13]

43. I don't think sarcasm has to be scientifically accurate.

I liked Victoria Jackson on SNL. I had no idea how rock stupid she was.

[MedicalAdmin]

47. I know what you mean - it wasn't an act. She was playing herself.

[Ian David]

28. Fartman nails it. n/t

[Swampguana]

45. Victoria is a psycho

[craigmatic]

48. Victoria Jackson just looks fucking stupid.

[whathehell]

55. Well, if she looks so "fucking stupid"...why give a shit about what she says?

Duh.:shrug:

[NICO9000]

49. Moron!

She keeps getting worse and worse every time she pops up. Kudos to Howard and Robin for telling the truth here. Comparing her to Fred Phelps is correct, I think.

[On the Road]

52. Got to Say It --

I love Howard and respect the stuff he says seriously, like this bit. I think on balance he is a voice for good rather than evil. Haven't heard him since he went on satellite radio except for his Daily Show interview.

As far as his being a racist goes, he begged Robin to move to NYC because she was a friend and he had such a good interaction with her.
But when they looked for apartements together, all they saw was lousy places. He couldn't understand it, and then it hit him -- "is this because she's black"? He was genuinely shocked. The next morning, he called up the realtor and read them the riot act. They immediately started seeing better places. THAT means more to me than any stereotypes that he might play up on his show.

[whathehell]

56. How very brave of Howard to "take on" the likes of Victoria Jackson..

considering how tough a target she is..:eyes:

Howard Stern didn't give a flying fuck about Gays, politcs or anything

else until HE got in trouble with the FCC