Full meltdown in full swing? Japan maximum nuclear alert

[FourScore]

Run time: 05:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MognnB0g56Y   Posted on YouTube: March 30, 2011 By YouTube Member: RussiaToday Views on YouTube: 301   Posted on DU: March 30, 2011 By DU Member: FourScore Views on DU: 4929

 

[golddigger]

1. The human race and and all living creatures are fucked.

The cockroaches will inherit the earth.

[ooglymoogly]

6. I think that is a little harsh on the pugs

But all in all I think you are right.

[PatrynXX]

43. Been watching The Prophecy a bit too much?

or is the elf in LOTR getting on your nerves. Hey if we're fucking doomed, I'm going out partying. Not crying my ass off. Like some Dems are doing trying to stand up to Republicans. Hey left or right WI's doing that right now and clearly giving the Thugs hell for it.

[golddigger]

46. Answering your first question, no! And who said I'm crying my ass off?

I was just stating an opinion on what I believe. It's going to happen if you want to believe or not. Just ask the Dinosaurs.

[JuniperLea]

2. "That was a pack of lies, and we're getting another pack of lies"

As suspected.

The nuclear industry needs to go down, forever.

[blackbart99]

37. Yes...absolutely......forever.

But don't worry, in 250,000 years we can move back into northern Japan. :sarcasm:

This shit is the worst poison ever invented by man. Yes invented...plutonium is not a natural element.
Its created in nuke plants. Who was the brilliant shithead who thought it was a good idea to put it
in pools on the roof of the reactors?
Nuclear power is the most expensive way to generate electricity. That doesn't include the cost of the
clean up after a disaster like this.

They need to evacuate most of Japan now....do you realize that? Where are they going to go?

Who is going to march into those buildings and concrete it all up? :( :scared:

Remember where you were when this happened...its going to effect Japan and the USA for thousands of years. I'm deadly serious.

[Marblehead]

3. Well at least

the rich people will survive, they can live in their underground bunkers..

[Paka]

22. But who in their right mind wants to live...

in a bunker!! Not the life I want. :wtf:

[felinetta]

23. Could they get doctors to agree to live in a bunker? How much staff would be willing to do it?

Money won't have the same meaning as it would above ground.
Living underground won't be the fun time they may think it
will be.

[WhoIsNumberNone]

38. No, but money will get the bunkers built-

and it will all the canned food and water purifiers and air conditioners to go in the bunkers -provided they get it done before the situation becomes critical and money becomes worthless...

Of course when that time comes, they'll be the guy with the bunker- and if you want to live in their bunker and share their food, you'll have to agree to live under their rules.

[neoralme]

4. Why can't we have more educated people discussing things

rationally like in this interview?

[stockholmer]

9. because the US media practises dumbed-down,divide & conquer,sugar-high journalism simply 4 ratings?

:shrug:

[thereismore]

5. This guy is knowledgeable. he mentioned some doubts whether the explosion

at Chernobyl was actually a hydrogen explosion, which only an expert would know, imo. I think he is right. When the reactors finally stop fuming and leaking, northern Japan will be an exclusion zone.

[AtheistCrusader]

27. There was more than one explosion at Chernobyl.

The first was certainly steam. The second could have been a combination, or any one of multiple causes. Doubtful anyone will ever really know without re-creating the conditions.

[ooglymoogly]

7. This must be the death knell to nuclear power.

Until absolute assurance can be guaranteed in any scenario possible on this earth. This cost on humans and our environment is unacceptable as were and are ongoing in the BP crimes in the gulf.

[dixiegrrrrl]

8. TPTB will try to cover it up unless they hear from enough of us, over and over again.

Remember, GE stands to make HUGE bucks in the planned reactors in Texas.
Money talks, as we all know.

[stockholmer]

10. Dr. Christopher Busby's web sites

THE LOW LEVEL RADIATION CAMPAIGN

We research the health effects of ionising radiation
We demand a re-evaluation of the risks of radioactive pollution

http://www.llrc.org/indexpage.htm



European Committee on Radiation Risk
Comité Européen sur le Risque de l’Irradiation

http://www.euradcom.org/

[ElsewheresDaughter]

11. I knew that the fat lady was singing back on March 11th

[Mnemosyne]

13. Yes. I did too, sadly. I know you wanted to be wrong as much

as I did. When I first heard, first thought was an uninhabitable Japan.

Really, really wanted to be wrong, but it's just not looking very good. :hug:

[aquart]

31. Me, too. They sounded so very BP.

[DeSwiss]

12. Of course they're lying.

When don't they lie? From the greedy fuckers who profit from this poison, to the scientists who use their intelligence to enable this lunacy -- they're all GUILTY AS HELL!. Fucking lunatics, the lot of them.

I wish them all a slow and painful death just like the people they've condemned here and who will be going through their own versions of hell right now -- and will still be going through it in the years to come. You stupid goddamned bastards.


- I hope it's clear where I stand on this issue....

K&R

[Mnemosyne]

14. C'mon, DeSwiss, tell us how you really feel.

:hug:

[blackbart99]

39. deswiss.... i'm with you on that!

[Chalfont]

15. Nope

RT is about as reliable as Pravda.

[DeSwiss]

17. They. All. Lie. n/t

[spooked911]

19. oh come on, it's not like this expert is saying anything that surprising

or that others aren't saying.

[vicarofrevelwood]

21. And you prefer, Um, FOX?

Bugger off troll!

[avaistheone1]

16. k&r

[Paper Roses]

18. Wow, this is quite an interview. How sad for the world.

[SkyDaddy7]

20. Russia really hopes they lose the title of biggest...

Nuke disaster!

[AtheistCrusader]

28. They might, but it won't help much

since they currently hold gold, silver, and bronze.

[Eko]

24. Ahhhhhh,

This is from Russian news from what I can gather, I dont believe they are known for fact driven reporting. I could be wrong and am open to being wrong. but ah, its Russian news. And I dont watch fox news for anyone out there who wants to try to attack me. Maddow's my favorite.

[SkyDaddy7]

35. Russia wants so bad for Japan to take the title of worst...

Nuke disaster this is obvious!

[Butch350]

25. You Know

sucking down those exhaust fumes from the auto in front of you in rush hour
traffic this morning - is gonna do more damage to you drama queens far quicker
than any radiation from the duke nuke em plants in Japan.

[trumad]

26. OK---

well then volunteer to go over to Japan and work on the site.

Come on now--- you being all tough and that.

[davidthegnome]

30. Drama Queens?

People concerned about the health of the environment and other human beings are drama queens? Or is it because we suggest nuclear power is dangerous - or that this is a disaster for the world that just keeps getting worse. I don't see anyone trying to claim the sky is falling here. I do see an attempt to discredit those with honest fears and concerns.

Your rudeness is uncalled for - and your comments, on top of being offensive, are absurdly inaccurate.

[aquart]

32. Have some milk.

[FourScore]

33. LOL

Good one!

:fistbump:

[SkyDaddy7]

36. You can't say that here...

This is the panic room! Who cares what American Scientist are saying about our safety here in the states...What do they know about Physics?

[davidthegnome]

40. Plenty - here's a question for you

Where does their funding come from? How much are they allowed to say in certain disaster situations? How much truth is too much truth and could cause a panic? Where do the dots connect? How many of our "experts" have financial ties to industries with financial interests at stake in this situation? Nope, I don't know the answer. I'm asking you. The experts may know plenty, but what inspires you to trust their credibility?

Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of honest and credible scientists - they're (usually) the ones that aren't taken seriously or are written off as crack pots.

There is definitely cause for grave concern here. Personally I have little faith in so called "experts" that are paraded by the MSM, whichever side of the fence they happen to be on... it's the funding that's important.

(Edited to add: Well, I guess that's a few questions. Sorry.)

[SkyDaddy7]

45. In all reality you did ask one overall question...

To me that must be answered with a question...Are we to assume none of our respected physicist or even Canadian or other International physicist would come forward & sound the warning if they honestly felt we in America or others around the world were in danger from the radiation coming from Japan?

I think we need to slow down & ask ourselves just how vast a conspiracy it would have to be for everyone to be hiding the dangers from us.

We have plenty respected physicist here in America let alone around the world that would come forward if there were dangers because they are outspoken critics of the dangers of nuclear power. Plus, the amounts being detected by governments & watchdog groups are many thousand times below the EPA limit.

I simply do not see our government being able to pull off such a vast comspiracy even with the physicist that work directly for the Energy Department. Yes, there are selfish bad scientist that would tow the government line if asked but most would not...Most Scientist are like doctors in that they care about humanity...They really do.

Plus, personally I have a very good friend who is a physicist...And although he works in the realm of quantum computing he understands the physics at play here & he actually thinks the media is whipping people up into a panic by leading off every news story about radiation being detected. But he also understands they really do not have a choice as there are so many organizations monitoring radiation levels that the media must report it or look like they are hiding something.

I am 100% confident if there were hazards we would know about it!!

Do you see where I am coming from?

EDIT TO ADD: Thanks for being respectful & nice! It just seems lately here on DU if you say something that goes against the majority you are not treated with respect...That kinda makes me sad but I guess it is just a reflection of the times we are living in. Everyone seems to be a little uptight & I can understand why. :hi:

[Thunderstruck]

42. That site is going to need volunteers. You need to get your shit packed

and get your ass over there to help them contain that mess.

[golddigger]

47. Really? Why don't you take your badass self over to Japan and suck on

some fumes. Then get back to us drama queens.

[florida08]

29. I don't think it's fair to kill the message via the messenger

The issue is Busby credible. More is still coming out but I wouldn't dismiss his years of study

Japan fears radioactive contamination of marine life
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/30/japan-radioactive-contamination-marine-life

France Calls for Global Nuclear Safety Standards
http://www.voanews.com/english/news/europe/Sarkozy-Calls-For-Global-Nuclear-Safety-Standard-By-Years-End-118977029.html

Tokyo region to face rolling blackouts through the summer
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/31/japan.blackouts/

Radioactive iodine 4385 times legal limit found in sea water near Fukushima ...
http://www.dailyindia.com/show/432623.php

U.N. Urges Japan to Widen Evacuation Zone
http://www.democracynow.org/2011/3/31/headlines/un_urges_japan_to_widen_evacuation_zone

Radiation in sea water soars; nuclear safety agency clueless
http://uk.ibtimes.com/articles/128482/20110330/radiation-fukushima-nuclear-japan-sea-water.htm

[FourScore]

34. Exactly!

Thanks for the links florida08!

[florida08]

41. :-)..sure thing

[DemReadingDU]

44. Couple more articles by Busby

3/27/11 Fukushima-Daiichi “As Serious As Chernobyl” by Chris Busby
This means the following:.
1. The explosions vapourised some or all of the spent fuel tanks on reactors number 1-3.
2. The accident is as serious as Chernobyl, which is what I stated on Friday last and in various TV and radio interviews
3. There is every likelihood that the pressure vessel of at least one reactor is open
4. There is serious contamination of the sea which will extend the radioactivity to coastal dwellers for hundreds of kilometres through inhalation of sea-to-land transfer of radionuclides and seafood
5. The health effects will be serious and we must consider that contamination will probably be global, though the levels may not be apparent for a while
6. Public within 150km should leave the area immediately.
http://www.countercurrents.org/busby270311.htm

3/29/11 Deconstructing Nuclear Experts By Chris Busby
Since the Fukushima accident we have seen a stream of experts on radiation telling us not to worry, that the doses are too low, that the accident is nothing like Chernobyl and so forth. They appear on television and we read their articles in the newspapers and online. Fortunately the majority of the public don’t believe them. I myself have appeared on television and radio with these people;

Chris Busby is Scientific Secretary of the European Committee on Radiation Risk. He is visiting Professor at the University of Ulster and also Guest Researcher at the Julius Kuehn Institute of the German Federal Agricultural Institute in Braunschweig, Germany. He was a member of the UK Committee Examining Radiation Risk on Internal Emitters CERRIE and the UK MoD Depleted Uranium Oversight Board. He was Science and Policy Interface leader of the Policy Information network on Child Health and Environment based in the Netherlands. He was Science and Technology Speaker for the Green Party of England and Wales. He has conducted fundamental research on the health effects of internal radiation both at the theoretical and epidemiological level, including recently on the genotoxic effects of the element uranium.

Discussion about several 'experts'
http://www.countercurrents.org/busby290311.htm
or
http://www.counterpunch.org/busby03282011.html