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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-11 11:14 PM
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Justice Scalia Defends Koran Burning
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Justice Scalia Defends Koran Burning
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/04/02/962675/-Justice-Scalia-Defends-Koran-Burning
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-11 11:21 PM
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1. How does he feel about "burning" this country?
Lou
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-11 11:23 PM
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2. He also voted in favor of Johnson in the TX v. Johnson flag burning case
His record here is consistent.

There is much to criticize Scalia for. This is not one of them.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-11 11:33 PM
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3. Yup.
Cue kneejerkers in 3...2...1...
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 07:32 AM
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14. Yours is the ironic post of the day;
Maybe week, etc...

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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 11:46 AM
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20. LOL.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-11 11:46 PM
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4. +1
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 02:30 AM
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7. Good analogy. Both situations are similar forms of protected speech. n/t
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 05:17 AM
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11. I agree, bluestateguy.
Scalia has so far been right when it comes to free speech.

The right to free speech is about as absolute as any of the rights. I wonder where he would come down on the Wikileaks issue.
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 07:31 AM
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13. Flag burning and destruction of anyone's holy book'
Are not close. And Scalia's assertion that the only difference is the imminent riots claim is BS.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 11:48 AM
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21. The flag is a holy symbol for some people
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 04:44 PM
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25. Absolutely.
I am delighted that Justice Scalia defends this kind of rude, obnoxious and hateful behavior on constitutional grounds. It's the only way it can be defended and it is proper of him to do so.

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divine_truine Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 12:17 AM
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5. IGNORE this f#@k! Jim Jones! this attention whore will do anything (such as what he tried...
...to do during that phoney nyc mosque issue fux news tried to fan the flames. These creepy neocons have no game but try to scare ppl with their crazy religious ideology
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 02:34 AM
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9. Do you think Vietnam war protesters should have been arrested
for burning the flag? It's the same thing.
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penndragon69 Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 12:53 AM
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6. Try this.
For every Koran burned...burn a Bible.
Then you would hear the screams of outrage
from the Fascist right.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 02:32 AM
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8. Maybe from the right, but not from the left. Many on the left
recognize book burning -- whether a "holy book" or not -- as just as much protected speech as flag burning. (Which progressives strongly supported during the Vietnam War.)
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Dave From Canada Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 11:16 AM
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18. Actually, you'd hear no screams at all. Nobody cares about what types of paper you buy to burn.
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kimsarah Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 02:49 AM
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10. Oops
Edited on Sun Apr-03-11 02:53 AM by kimsarah
He fidgeted and sounded like our good friend, Lush Limbaugh. Oops, are comparisons to evolutionary-under-developed homo sapiens protected free speech, or incitements of riots?
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 05:48 AM
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12. OMG! Scalia is bipolar! I've never seen him speak before so I did not guess.
Edited on Sun Apr-03-11 05:48 AM by McCamy Taylor
I wonder what meds he takes (or does not take lol). No wonder he had delusions of grandeur that the SCOTUS could stop the vote count in Florida via Bush v. Gore.
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Beams1969 Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 08:30 AM
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15. This must be one of Scalia's broken clock moments.
I didn't think I would ever agree with him. Terry Jones is an idiot who has the right to burn books. People who would kill other people with no connection to Jones whatsoever over said book burning are evil and immoral idiots, imo.

And what is it with far right ideologues with name's from Monty Python members? Is someone name Idle going to jump in the race soon?
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lobodons Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 09:28 AM
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16. All speech is not protected
When we are in a de facto war against Islam, burning the Koran should be akin to yelling bomb on a plane. Any reasonable person could have seen this coming regarding the resulting violence and killings.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 10:35 AM
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17. Regardless, he does not prima facie responsibility for the deaths
He has killed no one, suggested no one be killed, never even discussed anyone be killed. To hold him responsible for the act of zealots in another country is not morally or legally supportable.

All that said, he is a fundie asshat.
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LaloBorges Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 11:33 AM
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19. you may not like the guy but he is right this time
it is the right of the guy to do it but Scalia also points out that "its a bad idea" and that "the guy is an idiot".

Please be objective, as I said, you may not like the guy but this time he is correct and he is not agreeing with the idiot from Florida.
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 01:56 PM
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24. I agree
Scalia (as much as I loathe him) was on the money - about the right to do such and the person that did it. I'd like to piss on a bible in Jones' presence. Stupid friggin' religions. So MUCH suffering and hypocrisy on the backs of the different faiths. ALL because we're too fucking afraid to admit we are what we are or could be what we could be.
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artemis starwolf Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 01:11 PM
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22.  Am I confused?


I thought any speech that create a danger, like yelling "fire" in a theater, or also, hatespeech that would be likely to incite violence was not recognized as free speech. In other words, Jones can speak out all day about how he feels about Islam, but burning a Koran would be not protected speech because he knows it will result in violence.
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Charleston Chew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 01:47 PM
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23. Ralph Waldo Emerson
Every burned book enlightens the world.
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