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Charleston Chew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 07:13 PM
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Principled ConservativeThoughts About Liberals and Libya
 
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Posted on YouTube: April 03, 2011
By YouTube Member: southernavenger
Views on YouTube: 305
 
Posted on DU: April 04, 2011
By DU Member: Charleston Chew
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Southern Avenger
Apr 3, 2011

Obama Democrats now make the same arguments for war as the Bush Republicans they once despised.

http://www.southernavenger.com/
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 07:26 PM
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1. Bad arguments.
It is too bad that Bush made phony arguments to cover the real reasons - Cheney had already drawn up maps of the oil fields.

Then when someone comes along with the same reasons, but this time genuine, they are equated with the phony reasons.

I had often heard of Nicholas Kristoff before, but never really researched who he was until I read this column.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/03/opinion/03kristof.html?_r=1&ref=nicholasdkristof

Kristoff is a brilliant guy - a sincere guy - one of the best minds in journalism today, and what he wrote makes this youtube video look like a steaming pile of ....

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Phaedrus76 Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 07:31 PM
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2. truth unlike beauty
is not in the eye of the beholder.
Still waiting for flowers and chocolates for the Americans in Baghdad.
Still looking around the podium with Bush for WMD's.
Still waiting for freedom bombs and liberty bayonets to make Iraqi orphans love the US of A.
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Dave From Canada Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 08:06 PM
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3. Great video. It's too bad President Obama didn't listen to 2007 Obama. The 2007 Obama had the
right constitutional frame of mind. I guess when you become President, the power becomes too great to resist.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 08:26 PM
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4. Obama never said he was against all wars.
Also, this is the enforcement of a no-fly zone and protection of citizens from slaughter, not a war - the US will be out in 48 hours. It would have been earlier if not for the weather. How on earth can that be compared to the monstrosity of Iraq.
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Charleston Chew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 08:36 PM
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5. Laugh Out Loud!
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 08:43 PM
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6. That's it?
Not even a critique of Kristoff's article?
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Dave From Canada Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 10:12 PM
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10. It has nothing to do with being against all wars. What happened to congressional approval? I guess
it was all talk huh.
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 09:08 PM
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7. So how does this solve anything?It's just," I know I am, so what are you.".
These worthless conservative pundits make me barf. There are too many errors in this argument to take the time to prove right now.I'd be researching sources all night. We need a strong administrative mouth piece to lay it out, so all of us could understand and explain it the those who just listen to guys like this.
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 09:31 PM
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8. Anybody wanna guess...........
which country will be next that we'll save from itself???
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 09:48 PM
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9. Pure unadulterated bullshit
Lies and not a shred of evidence of truthful endeavor was even considered being one thing; reason, truth and an attempt to work within it is quite another. Red herrings and strawmen armies do not an argument make. This argument is wrong on so many levels it makes one want to puke. Of course we have interests in Libya, the humanitarian issue however is of even more importance.

Though I have come to despise 0 I still give him credit for doing what he is doing within the realm of reason. * had no such mind, nor any such reason, nor anything but thuggery and greed to guide him and over a million Iraqi's were slaughtered and millions more have been maimed and their lives destroyed and thousands of US troops lost their lives.

It is sad that this pundit only sees things through the tinfoil eyes of right v/ left and cannot see beyond it; to the tragedy that befell this country when * and the neocons stole election after election to begin its systematic theft and destruction.

This "intervention" has yet to play out to the bad or to the good.
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Dave From Canada Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 10:15 PM
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11. That all could be true. But what happened to congressional approval? Or was it all just talk?
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Charleston Chew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 12:44 AM
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12. congratulations
'Barack Obama has now fired more cruise missiles than all other Nobel Peace prize winners combined'.
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