Kucinich on war profiteers and congress inability

[slipslidingaway]

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[redqueen]

1. I don't know... is he being too generous there?

Sure, they're not bad people... but if they're in congress and clueless about the privatization of iraqi natural resources... I don't know that they deserve to be let off so lightly for that.

[slipslidingaway]

2. Walking a fine line I suppose, if you call them out too much

(complicit or clueless) people ridicule you for bad mouthing Dems, so not an easy job. Although he continues to push the issue that there is a fight within the Dem party on many issues. Guess people will have to decide where they stand with respect to that line. Dennis stands with the people the first time, not years later, I'll stand with the smart dude :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMiiOF6clrY

[redqueen]

3. But... it's their oil!

*sigh*

I just do. not. understand. how progressives can support forcing iraqis to give control of that oil to private oil companies.

[slipslidingaway]

8. I agree with you 100%, I also do not understand how the other

candidates who claim they are for unions and the people in general turn a blind eye and say nothing about the hydrocarbon law benchmark in the supplemental bills, they just vote for it. Dennis is being generous, maybe to a fault, and trying to work within the system. I really do not know how he remains so calm and persistent.


http://www.basraoilunion.org/2007/05/open-letter-to-us-congress-and-european.html

"Open Letter to the Members of he US Congress who Oppose the War on Iraq

To members of the European Parliaments who Oppose the War

Peace be upon you and greetings to you all,

We wish to clarify certain matters relating to events in Iraq for our friends among the members of the US Congress. It is common knowledge that the occupation spared neither the old nor the young, and that Iraq is passing through the most difficult of times because all and sundry are hounding it and covet a share of its riches. We see no good reason for linking the passing of the feeble Iraqi oil law to the withdrawal of the occupation troops from Iraq.

Everyone knows that the oil law does not serve the Iraqi people, and that it serves Bush, his supporters and the foreign companies at the expense of the Iraqi people who have been wronged and deprived of their right to their oil despite enduring all difficulties.

We ask our friends not to link withdrawal with the oil law, especially since the USA claimed that it came to Iraq as a liberator and not in order to control Iraq’s resources.

The general public in Iraq is totally convinced that Bush wants to rush the promulgation of the oil law so as to be leaving Iraq with a victory of sorts, because his project is failing every day and the occupation is collapsing in all parts of Iraq.

We wish to see you take a true stance for the children of Iraq, and we always say that history will remember those who advance peace over war."

[ProudDad]

5. They ably represent their

clueless constituencies.

I'm afraid, my dear friend, that we are in a tiny minority of USAmericans who actually pay attention to what's going on and why.

Nearly no one else does.

They're not "bad people", but they ARE ignorant.

And they're driven by the inequities and iniquities of the corporate capitalist USAmerican economic "system" to spend most of their time trying to keep their heads above water financially...

And they are supplied with Soma in the form of 500 cable channels on TV to keep them quiet and ignorant...

I will keep working and trying but I've truly and completely given up hope on this country...the belly of the beast...the heart of the Empire... Change will NOT come from here...



Viva el pueblo de America del Sur y Evo Morales y Hugo Chavez y Fidel -- Viva la Revolucion Bolivariana --

I hope they can do better since they're our only real hope at this point...

[redqueen]

6. *sigh*

Not much to add to that... but I did want to say that I really appreciate your posts.

[ProudDad]

4. If this man got some national air time

people would be saying, "hillary who?"

[redqueen]

7. I don't know... I think it takes some big names...

some of the big to-do's in the media approving of him... despite the fact that these same to-do's are part of the problem, and that they've blithely ignored what's going on in the media, despite being very aware of the corporate takeover.

I'd think people would have stopped taking these clowning media figures so seriously by now... guess not.

[ProudDad]

11. That's why he doesn't get air time

"some of the big to-do's in the media approving of him"

Ain't gonna happen. The M$M is owned by corporate amerika.

It would be completely against their interests and in the interest of the People to give Dennis Kucinich a platform.

They HATE "We the People", they FEAR "We the People" and they will do everything in their power to keep "We the People" in our consuming, debt ridden, subservient place...




(and thanks for your kind words re; my posts... although, I fear at times that I'm preaching to the choir :hi:)

[slipslidingaway]

9. Many more people would be questioning their candidates. When

Dennis has mentioned the privatization of oil in the debates there is never a follow up question from the moderator or another candidate wanting to refute what he has said. There is just silence. The same thing happens here on DU with a variety of topics :(

[slipslidingaway]

10. Hunt Oil Deal, any other candidates want this investigated? n/t

[ProudDad]

12. Can you hear the crickets (n/t)

[slipslidingaway]

13. Yes it has been so nice I hear them every night :)) n/t

[Imp3achbush]

14. Why Do Ppl Say That Kucinich Has Zero Chance???

I dont get it? Have they listened to the man speak? All I know is that I've told all my friends about him, ~15, and they are all voting for him.. They hate it that I talk about him so much but they are all voting for him.

[slipslidingaway]

15. Beats me, although it is easier for the negative labels to stick

to someone, regardless of their policies, when they fall out of the the preconceived, media driven notions of who should be acceptable to run our country. Unfortunately, I fell into that trap in 2004 and only gave Dennis a cursory glance, but the more I read, the more I know how far our country has fallen, under both parties. From what I see he's the best chance that our country has to regain some moral ground within the world, hopefully others will take a further look and see that as well.

And welcome to DU :)

[Gonnuts]

16. Just wonderful ...

yes Dennis there are good people in government. And it is extremely unfortunate that our system of government is so broken that many of them have to waste most of their time raising money rather than governing. You included. And I think that you may be one of the few people that can do both fairly well, but being human, not all the time.

Indeed, it is both a complicated and simple world. Most want peace but there are forces that control much of the world's economy by making sure we also have some war going on somewhere at all times. Is this the way it should be? Or is it just the way things are? Is the truth somewhere in between?

In a perfect world you would be the next President of the United States.

no one really wants to know what I really think is going to happen.

[slipslidingaway]

17. What I really think...

is that we will continue on the path of aggression and at some point and at some level it will each person for themselves. Gosh, I hope I'm wrong :(