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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 03:17 PM
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FOX News "Debate" On War With Iran
 
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This weekend Sean Hannity will continue the Iran tag team match started by Joe Lieberman this week through the Lieberman-Kyl legislation. The saber rattling on Iran continues to no one's benefit, certainly not ours. The above video was the kick off for Iraq, the sequel; Iran or bust. That Kirsten Powers is co-hosting the discussion makes the "debate" all the more insane.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 03:22 PM
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1. "War with Iraq. A great idea... Or the greatest idea." nt
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 03:37 PM
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2. That Republican-Neocon crack must be really, really good.
Attacking Iran would be such a tremendous blunder, such a monumental mistake, such a collossal disaster for the US; I don't see how we can avoid doing it.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 03:52 PM
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 03:58 PM
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4. Why don't you tell those of us who don't have a bong handy?
I'd really like to know why we need to invade yet another sovereign nation for no reason other than that they recoginize the end of the Oil Age when they see it, and are trying to stave off the worst of the shock by adopting *gasp* nuclear power.

Or maybe you're just concerned about the gays that supposedly don't exist there? :)
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 04:21 PM
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5. You obviously took a wrong turn there, woofie.
You mean warmongers, not grown-ups, doncha?
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 09:13 PM
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20. He scored some really bad meth...
I'll take a bong hit any day over the shit that those rednecks use. Battery fluid, *ugh* I'll pass thank you, this wolfie troll is the poster boy for meth-induced brain damage.
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ohioINC Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 04:22 PM
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6. the genie is out of the bottle
Enriched nuclear materials already exist on the black market. Several metric tons are unaccounted for in the Russian inventory alone. Attacking Iran will do little to nothing to stop nuclear weapons from being built by rogue nations or terrorist actors. Instead of attacking Iran we should use the resources to prevent a device from being detonated in the homeland. Or green energy technologies.
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BulletproofLandshark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 04:37 PM
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7. Bye bye now
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woofielove Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:02 PM
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8. we won't invade
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPQIocPCHg8


THIS IS WHY I SAID WHAT I DID.

If you asked Mahmoud...he would say he want's all nations to be Islamic states like his country...........they STONE PEOPLE THERE.....that's what this guy wants.

He's TRYING to start WWIII with a nuke because of the 12th Imam.

http://www.investors.com/editorial/editorialcontent.asp?secid=1501&status=article&id=275180750234301


Wake up .... where is Barry Goldwater when you need him!!! Are all these new Democrats just misfits?
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NorCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:07 PM
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10. Woofie stop now....
before you embarrass yourself anymore. ROFLMAO, how's the kool-aid taste btw?
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:27 PM
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12. Attacking Iran isn't such a dumb idea
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 05:28 PM by StClone
Armageddon is quick and easy now, but I suppose they will run out of virgins by the time I get to heaven.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:52 PM
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 09:05 PM
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18. For the British, Washington was a war criminal... and yet for the Americans he is a hero.
But I am sure that concept would fly over your head at supersonic speeds.

You may be shocked to know, that some of us are aware of Che's methods. He is the worst nightmare for the pseudo-macho conservatives: a liberal who is not afraid of kicking ass. Funny to see you guys bitch and moan: "but but, he was mean... he wouldn't ask the evil repressive Batista regime backed by the US to step down pretty please..."

Hasta la victoria siempre, motherf*cker....
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 08:33 PM
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16. We don't stone em here bye god,
we drag em behind pick ups, shoot em, hang em, stab em, kidnap em, kidnap their children and rape em, but we don't stone em.

USA, #1 in alternative death styles.

Bush would give him a nuke and then allow him to set it off anywhere he wants as long as he gets on the Usama cam and takes credit for it.

Who needs to wake up here?
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NorCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:05 PM
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9. ...
:puke: Bwahahaha
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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:19 PM
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11. A pending grave mistake
Delusional one-dimensional stupidity at the largest level. I guess some of them actually believe their own propaganda at this point.

Attacking Iran's nuclear facilities is probably the only way to guarantee that they WILL actually develop nuclear weapons. They can blunder and wish all they want, but the right wingers won't be able to put the nuclear genie back into the bottle.

If you are a small country the only way to guarantee sovereignty is to acquire nuclear weapons. Israel and North Korea immediately prove the point.
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woofielove Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:54 PM
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14. which is exaclt why we should bomb Iran
"If you are a small country the only way to guarantee sovereignty is to acquire nuclear weapons. Israel and North Korea immediately prove the point."

....which is exaclt why we should bomb Iran now, before they get it.
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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 07:36 PM
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15. wrong
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 07:38 PM by jimlup
Wrong - bombing them won't do anything to set back their clandestine program. If such a program exists the best chance the international community has is a UN monitoring program. Such a program is clearly negotiable as Iran has repeatedly offered. Bombing their nuclear facilities would make the problem significantly worse.

The only "force" option that could stop this hypothetical Iranian program would be an "Iraq" style invasion of Iran. We've seen where that leads. The neocons lost this hand and their best current option is to fold. The neocons may be so ignorant and stupid that they miss this obvious point. It wouldn't be the first time.
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 08:41 PM
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17. And that stops them from getting nukes, how?
Not to mention the little fact they have a fairly large conventional force whose equipment has not been grinding sand in it's gears for five years, just waiting to pour over the boarder and wipe out the over deployed US troops next door.

What then Einstein?

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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 09:10 PM
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19. We should bomb the rest of the world then.... they may get the bomb at some point
Especially those Canadians, they are too nice and the country is too clean. They are up to something, bomb them to the stone age I say.

The cognitive dissonance of the right wing trolls is scary sometimes. I am wondering, are you guys this stupid naturally, or have you followed some sort of training regime to get even more stupid. No one can be this dumb through genetics alone....
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nvme Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 12:00 AM
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21. woofielove
Ok we bomb gas goes $8 a gallon. it will help us get off foreign oil. then we have to placate Russia who is a very close ally to iran (they are building a multibillion $$ reactor). Oh don't forget All the muslims who kinda don't trust us as it is. dont forget how much your food prices will rise and that nasty old draft will come back. so if you dont wind up serving your families young will. Iran is a tinderbox make no mistake. so wolfie wolfie please think before you talk out of your butt. The fox news channel is just a couple of clicks away. BTW enjoy the koolaid.
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