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Lars77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 04:29 PM
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Healthcare: Sanders vs Paul
 
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Rand Paul says guaranteed healthcare is like slavery.


Yeah, i'm not kidding.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 04:40 PM
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1. Bernie made Paul....
look like a child and even worse....
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road2000 Donating Member (995 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 05:28 PM
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2. He did indeed.
But who's going to see it when the MSM ignore it?

And, hearing Paul speak, what does Christianity have to do with the Hippocratic Oath?
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 05:32 PM
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3. Paul starts out with a false argument and it just gets dumber from there.
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Beams1969 Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 05:45 PM
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4. I think the great sage B. Bunny said it best...what a maroon!
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DWinNJ Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 06:28 PM
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5. “Reductio ad absurdum”
Loosely translated from the Latin
“Rand is an ass”
You can tell they have no real factual objection when they come up with some extremely ridiculous scenario.

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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 06:59 PM
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6. Paul's a fucking nutjob libertarian asshole who holds these whacko radical views. It's nutty.
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TatonkaJames Donating Member (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 08:45 PM
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7. I would have confronted him with the "Right" to bear arms
Being Rand was in such a literal mood, I would have argued he was saying the Constitution is forcing me to have a gun.
Or they should then force every eligible citizen to vote by force if necessary just because it's in the Bill of Rights.
One time I'd like to see a nominee just look at one of these senators and say I'm not buying into your spin and close their mic.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 09:27 PM
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8. Paul's comments were not relevant to the topic.
Edited on Wed May-11-11 09:32 PM by JDPriestly
The issue is not whether a doctor should be required to provide healthcare to any person who demands his assistance.

The issue is whether we as a society have the obligation to make sure that all of us can find and fairly compensate a doctor when we need one.

Paul was either purposely talking off topic or really is not capable of analyzing issues and problems. I tend to think it was the latter. He responded with a boilerplate slogan about enslavement, an issue that has nothing to do with public health.

No one is suggesting that doctors should be required to treat patients without compensation or that any doctor should be required to treat any patient. That is a silly idea, and I suspect that Rand Paul knows it.

I assume that Rand Paul is licensed to practice medicine under state law. That license is a privilege, not a right. Personally, I think that a state license to practice medicine (or law) should be conditioned on the party who is licensed agreeing to volunteer a certain amount of his professional time to helping others for greatly reduced fees if not pro bono. That would go a long way to relieving the injustice caused by doctors and lawyers earning huge amounts of money while many poor people go without medical care or legal assistance. It is perfectly legal and within the Constitution to require people to perform certain acts in order to enjoy a privilege.

For example, obtaining a drivers license is a privilege, not a right. And a condition for enjoying that privilege, at least in California, is buying car insurance.
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freedom fighter jh Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 10:34 PM
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10. He was parroting an Ayn Rand line. nt
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DWinNJ Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 11:39 PM
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11. You would be wrong
Paul is licensed to be an eye doctor under an organization he created.

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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 09:01 AM
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14. But doesn't his state require him to be licensed by the state in order to practice?
California does. I think most if not all states do. Doctors have to take examinations every few years in order to retain their licenses.
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 09:57 PM
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9. Rand paul
again proves himself to be an ass... and I must say, my daughter was an officer in St. Johnsbury and I know full well that the St. Johnsbury police are not going to break down anybody's door and force them treat a patient!!!

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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 12:12 AM
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12. K & R
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Prana69 Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 01:51 AM
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13. What is telling here is that Bernie Sanders is asking questions,
and is interested to hear what the responder has to say.

Rand Paul just wants to lecture everyone on his own beliefs.

a**hat.

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