Police Brutality, ho hum, ho hum. a day at the park

[Bonobo]

Run time: 10:01 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN9qS6ViHeA   Posted on YouTube: July 05, 2011 By YouTube Member: policecrimescom Views on YouTube: 1035   Posted on DU: July 07, 2011 By DU Member: Bonobo Views on DU: 1641

 
This behavior has come to be considered SOP by many Americans who will say it is some *force escalation properly done" or some BS.

What it really is, is something else entirely.

It is the current state of the police in America (or is it the current Police State in America?)

[Dawson Leery]

1. This perverted infatuation with the "uniform" is part of the problem.

Giving too much (and much undeserved respect) to those with "enforcement" power has always led to abuses.
Latin America and South America learned this the hard way. They keep those in uniform at a distance and refuse to embrace them.

[Mortos]

2. Where exactly was the "brutality"?

No context about what was going on. Lots of people interfering with the officers making an arrest. The female resists after being asked to back away from the male getting arrested. She kicks a female officer and actively resists after they tried to escort her away from the scene. I thought the officers showed restraint and professionalism. They only used enough force to affect the arrests and being greatly outnumbered by a hostile crowd, they only arrested a few people. I get sick of the posts screaming about police brutality when there is absolutely none and the people that trumpet it have no idea what they are talking about.

***I watched the beginning of the video again. First of all, she is not an old woman as described in the video. Second, at 58 seconds, she clearly tries to kick the cop who is attempting to de-escalate the situation by removing her from the arrest. Change the title to vicious woman kicks kindly officer who tries to calm her down.

[WhoIsNumberNone]

4. Context:

You have to go to the YouTube posting and read the description- It's the 4th of July marijuana protest in DC. It's been going on every year since at least the Reagan Administration (probably much longer than that, but I first heard about it during Reagan) Seems like there were a lot more cops at this one than the one I went to in 1988.

[Bonobo]

6. Preposterous.

Your description of that is pure fiction.

There was no kick attempt. The woman was grabbed, without warning, by the police officer so I don't know how it could be called de^escalating to lay your hands on someone who has done nothing but speak.

When the woman, who was being pushed by the PO, tried to slow down her rate of being pushed (is that really resistance?), the PO took her down in a totally unnecessarily violent fashion. Did she offer a threat that required such a potentially injurious takedown??

Next, you ask what was violent? well, do you think it was necessary to have 3 people on top of her? To shove her head into the grass? That is not violent? Wrenching her arms behind her is not violent?

You TRULY judge that to have been a necessary application of force?

If so, I think you need to realize that you are defining "appropriate" based on what the police are calling appropriate, not based on common sense.

Here is how preposterous your interpretation is in your own language:

"Change the title to vicious woman kicks kindly officer who tries to calm her down."

Anyone can watch the video for themselves and see how ridiculous your statement is.

[vrp]

10. I don't know

what the first guy was arrested for, but the police should have simply walked away from this woman. What the police did was completely unnecessary. Maybe their feelings were hurt because someone had the courage to confront them? These cops are assholes!

[me b zola]

11. Let me do that to you or your kids then u tell me

:grr:

[WhoIsNumberNone]

3. And right there in the middle of the Free Speech Zone too....

[Mortos]

5. Do you have any idea what the first man was arrested for?

He was being completely compliant and the officers were handling his arrest with professionalism and no unnecessary force and then the irate woman fired up the crowd and began to interfere with the process. Her actions and behavior caused the escalation, not the cops.

[blank space]

7. My god are you socially illiterate ?

You seem to feel that there is a line the police can cross over and are justified in using brutal force where necessary - its your culture - this type of thing would not be tolerated at all in the rest of the civilized world, that cop would be fired, fined and face criminal charges in most countries - you just have no idea what you are saying.

The police do not ever, ever have a right to do that ! Let me be clear - in the rest of planet earth police are not even allowed to shoot people - ever. In the US it seems its part of the course. Person resists, runs away, reaches for something in his pocket BANG - ..its not ok. A cop in the rest of the world only ever shoots when he is being shot at.

Here if this woman was throwing punches and the cop needed to DEFEND himself then maybe , but there are at least five or six cops here, so no way, they could have easily restrained her without resorting to such utter thuggery.

Its a total embarrassment to the United States that police are acting this way - and it is profoundly disheartening to see it being defended by people who should know better but apparently have no clue what appropriate police behavior is.


How police react is not about allowing them to do whatever they want if someone misbehaves - if someone resists the cops are not authorised to then beat the shit out of them, if someone resists the cops are not authorised to then sling tackle them to the ground.

The cops are not authorised to use restraining force, and defensive means. Assault is not restraint.


get to know what how things work in civilised countries and stop relying on hollywood and television for your bench mark of appropriate behavior by authorities.

A cop in the UK recently pushed a guy over - just pushed him over, way, way less than this sling tackle and he went to jail as it was considered it contributed to the guys subsequent stroke. The entire UK police force have absolutely no right to this type of behaviour under any circumstances- they don't even carry guns.

The reason these cops are doing this is because they have no training - no professional modern police officer in any civilised western nation would do this - no way.

[Bonobo]

8. Fantastic post!

Unfortunately, frogs in wells cannot see outside them and believe their wells to ve the entire world.

Such is America.

[greiner3]

9. Damn;

Singled out for not contributing to the latest FOP fund raising.

[Hulk]

12. Land of the free....home of the police state.

Just wonderful behavior. Makes me feel safe all over.

[Supply Side Jesus]

13. she kicked the cop. boo fucking hoo

she was interfering and inciting others. especially the douche in the reflective vest. when he was escorting her away she threw her left leg back in a mule kick at the officer.

middle age woman assaults police offer. she got dealt with. they threw her on the ground and cuffed her without using any strikes.

The guy who was initially arrested was cooperative and compliant and they were professional. but Norma FUCKING Rae had to butt her big nose into it. give me a fucking break. she assaulted the cop.

if you want to reply to me in support of the nosey pain in the ass, don't bother. cuz i really don't give two shits on your thoughts, cuz more than likely you have no clue on what you are talking about.

now the brown shirts and their crowd control technique was horrible. they need serious remedial training.

[Bonobo]

14. She did not kick the cop.

And as far as your idea of not knowing anything... it just shows how deep you are in your own sad little world that you think this is the best that law enforcement have to offer.

[The Wizard]

15. Another bin Laden victory

We have ceased being a free country. Government by fear always falls. At some point the people take up arms, and is gets ugly. Governance without popular support is the road to totalitarian oppression.