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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 12:11 AM
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Countdown with Keith Olbermann - MURDOCH SCANDAL GOES GLOBAL
 
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 12:39 AM
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1. I'm praying right now that Rupert is a gonner! All I can do is thank the
Brits! Please, please, please let me be right!
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 12:53 AM
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2. Like KO said “ Is there any reason to assume or that we are correct in assuming
that nobody in the Murdoch companies would have done that in the U.S.?” Olbermann asked.


Who's to say that such phone hack tactics weren't common practice by any of Murdoch's U.S. media holdings such as Fox or WSJ or against targeted politicians. This needs to be fine-combed investigated.
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999998th word Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 02:01 AM
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3. Hope it is -but bet it won't
There will be some blowback and collateral damage,something expendable will be eliminated,and some minor consequences.

Than they will do some restructuring and rebranding,and back to business as usual. Lately I've seen too much flagrant disregard for laws by the uberrich of late.

That scumbag has had power and money too long to relinquish it w/out a backup plan,plus he probably has something he can hold over people's

heads if he can't pay them off outright.

This is just too good to be true,otherwise.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 10:25 AM
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11. some restructuring and rebranding,and back to business as usual.
Yeah. Maybe they can call themselves Xe.
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blackbart99 Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 11:05 AM
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12. I understand your being very skeptical.........
BUT......please please please...everyone sue them,and keep it alive, and after a year or two the
financial losses might take them down.

:tinfoilhat: Then we'll have a story about Rupert falling off his yacht......

Meanwhile in Dubai Ken Lay gets a new neighbor.:tinfoilhat: :hide: :yoiks: :bluebox:
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keopeli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 02:13 AM
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4. I believe it's safe to assume that the practice of hacking ORIGINATED in the U.S.
After all, both the technology (which was invented and perfected in the U.S.) and the practice (of hacking phones and spying on enemies) started in the U.S.

It's safe to assume that the Patriot Act and other subsequent legislation and judicial decisions has protected Murdoch and other U.S. companies from prosecution.

It's silly to assume that this scandal will be investigated in the U.S. Frankly, our laws protect this behavior. While there is the slim possibility that such an effort to prosecute here could be made, it is far from a safe assumption that this will happen.

It would be much safer to assume that, if Murdoch's British endeavors collapse, he will double-down on his U.S. investments.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 04:56 AM
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6. Yes, the United States is the great satan
Edited on Sat Jul-09-11 05:00 AM by Confusious
we taught everyone ever how to do evil.

we taught the Romans how to slaughter people in the colosseum, somehow. we even taught the Hutus and Tutsis how to slaughter each other.

How about this. Crappy people do crappy things, no matter which country they come from. No united states necessary.

The patriot act only applies to government spying, which is crappy in itself. It doesn't apply to this sort of thing.

We may be a crappy country, but I would like it if people got the crap in neat piles, so we could talk about it without inferring crap which is not true, or making crap up.

thanks.

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keopeli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 12:33 PM
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14. I get that you disagree. I don't get why.
I couldn't glean from your comments what part of my comment you thought was untrue, false or misleading.

I get that you think the Patriot Act is only about spying, even though it is a broad law that covers many issues. Even the newest iteration renewed by Obama includes indefinite detention. I'm not sure what this has to do with spying.

My point is simply that Murdoch can use current and recent legal rationales as an excuse for spying on people and invading privacy. Even if this is a bit of an exaggeration, it is illustrative of the loss of civil liberties enshrined in the Patriot Act. I don't believe it is unreasonable to assume that Murdoch has a better chance of avoiding prosecution for hacking and spying in the U.S. than he does in the U.K.

If you think these thoughts of mine are tantamount to calling the U.S. satanic, that's fine. I personally don't mind honest criticism based on reasonable conclusions. I don't even mind hyperbole used to illustrate a point.

And, I don't mind your comments and apparent disagreement. I just don't understand them. To me, your comments sound like you are convoluting my thoughts with some kind of hatred of Obama and/or the U.S. on my part. I do dislike Murdoch, news corp and their practices. I do dislike our compromised civil liberties. I do believe that technology and the ability to hack the same were started in the U.S. And I do believe that our laws are less stringent on corporate misdeeds than other contemporary democracies.

The question of whether these beliefs of mine make the U.S. satanic and evil is your issue, not mine.
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oldironside Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 07:16 AM
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8. You can't underestimate...
... the level of anger in the UK at the moment. Hacking the phones of dead soldiers and murdered children has made everyone's jaw drop. No politician dares be seen withing a mile of Murdoch or any of his minions at the moment and it's difficult to see how they can change the dynamic.

Murdoch's daily propaganda sheet, The Sun, still sells very few copies in Liverpool after they printed a pack of lies about the Hillsborough football stadium disaster in 1989.

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Swagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 03:45 AM
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5. Murdoch's Australian newspaper threatened to "destroy The Greens"
in an ill-advised editorial just 4 months ago.

talk about karma being a bitch !
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perdita9 Donating Member (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 06:32 AM
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7. Karma has turned her sights on Rupert Murdoch
And it's about time too.
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spicegal Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 07:24 AM
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9. I'm praying that shoes start dropping on Fox. The Murdoch
empire needs to come down. They've become way too powerful. Fox owns a major political party in this country. That's not the way it's suppose to work.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 07:33 AM
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10. Snowball effect indeed
and an interesting metaphor given just months ago it seemed like there wasn't a snowball's chance in h*ll that this scandal could touch Murdoch.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 12:02 PM
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13. I'll bet Anonymous and/or UKUncut either
can get those emails or have got them already...
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