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Sat Jul-09-11 08:38 AM
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Drug Policy Alliance’s Ethan Nadelmann to Bill Maher: 'POT IS THE NEW GAY' |
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Sat Jul-09-11 08:43 AM
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Sat Jul-09-11 08:56 AM
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2. Have a joint? Prison for you, man. Rip off billions? Slap on the wrist. War criminal? Texas ranch |
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with all the booze you can drink.
Me thinks we has a priorities problem.
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Sat Jul-09-11 09:01 AM
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3. No plants (or any living things) should be illegal! |
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This outlawing of a flower is insane. It is this type of insanity that keeps people down,. under corporate-state control. If a plant can be made criminal, then anything the state does can be justified. Ending the criminality of flowers is a major step to ending the sickness in american culture. No one dies from pot it is a non-toxic substance,. tobacco and alcohol are much more destructive and yet are taxed and not criminal. People should be allowed to grow their own, and regular rules like the ones associated with other intoxicants could be applied. (drinking in public, when driving, under age, etc.) People should not be imprisoned for growing selling or smoking flowers,. this sort of stupidity is just another system of control, meant to break the will of free people. Another symptom of the corpo-fascist-military state of control,. by the few, for the wealth extraction from the many. End it now, take a major step toward sanity.
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Sat Jul-09-11 10:03 AM
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6. This outlawing of a flower is insane. |
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Alas, this argument is not that simple. Pot may be benign, but there are many MANY plants that are NOT.
Of course it's stupid to make a plant illegal. That can be illustrated easily by all the lovely flowers in people's yards.... that can kill you. From Oleander to Hemlock. So making a plant illegal because it is dangerous simply does not happen. But you cannot also pretend that "because it's natural, it's OK and good".
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Sat Jul-09-11 12:18 PM
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7. Cannabis is good for most people,. . no pretending needed. |
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There are a few that claim it to have triggered mental issues,. however these issues where likely present/latent in that individual to begin with. It is not toxic,. that is you can not "overdose" consuming it, in any normal way. And it relieves stress,. and stress is a proven killer of many people. It makes many people for creative, friendly and peaceful, likely another reason it was outlawed.
And this does not even begin enumerating the many medical uses from, glaucoma, to cancer,. . as well as the many the industrial uses from the fiber version of the plant HEMP,. that was the original motive for it's being condemned to illegality to begin with. (search; Cannabis DuPont) Many of the things we currently use petroleum products to produce can also be created using hemp oil, extracts and fibers,. and using a plant to produce these things well help clean up our polluted and collapsing eco-sphere. (search; Carbon cycle) Hemp seeds are also a great food source for people.
As far as other deadly plants,. I still see no reason to imprison people for growing or using them. If you want to eat hemlock go for it,. as long as you are not pushing it on others, I have not problem with that, nor should anyone else.
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Sat Jul-09-11 09:27 PM
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Pot may be benign, but there are many MANY plants that are NOT.
So what? I personally think nearly all drugs should be legal.
The fact of the matter is, people should be able to do whatever they want to to their bodies.
That is the ultimate freedom.
If I want to shoot up with bleach, that should be my right to do that. Suicide is a right. It is your body.
Once again I am astonished how the conservatives, the "party of personal responsibility", won't let people be personally responsible for what they put in their bodies.
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Sat Jul-09-11 05:12 PM
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11. Yeah, just imagine, they |
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can grow genetically modified corn that actually makes its own pesticides yet they outlaw other unapproved natural plants. Incredible, this is fundamentally flawed ethics.
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Sun Jul-10-11 12:49 AM
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Sat Jul-09-11 09:26 AM
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4. Do we get our own flag? n/t |
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Sat Jul-09-11 10:00 AM
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Just decriminalize it Helloooooooooo
Drug Lords WANT to keep it illegal, we all realize that
There is one good thing about the drug war Oh wait... no there's not
There's not even ONE, NOT EVEN ONE, good thing abuot it
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Sat Jul-09-11 02:22 PM
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8. Oh there are billions of good things about the Drug War - |
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Edited on Sat Jul-09-11 02:23 PM by truedelphi
especially if you are part of a Cartel Family. Or if you are a politician running for office and willing to talk about the evils of reefer, knowing full well that the cleaned up member of that same cartel, the one who owns an entire bank in Southern California or northern Denver, or suburbs of Chicago, as long as your political speeches mention your opposition to legalisation, then that guy will be helping to fund your campaign.
One reason that the banks want to have no transperency is because of how much money is laundered, and how many banks have been bought and created using the ill gotten gains of the drugs that the Drug War supposedly stops.
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Sat Jul-09-11 03:44 PM
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9. I'm for legalizing pot, but... |
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..."The New Gay(Black/Jew/etc.)" is reckless, irresponsible, and over the top. It downplays the struggles that gays have endured throughout human history. Gays have been beaten and killed for their very existance. One choses to smoke or sell pot. Gender choice is not.
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Sun Jul-10-11 01:00 AM
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14. And yet there are similarities |
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pot smokers have been beneath the wheel somewhat the same way pot smokers have been beneath the wheel, both tormented, both stigmatized, both beaten down and sometimes killed along with their dogs; pot smokers for fear of their doors broken down, gays for fear of being beaten and killed in the streets. Who's to say which is worse, though one surly is. I think gays have the winning card but viciousness hasn't got winners, it is all about losers. But one thing is for sure all the crap lays at the hands of the hillbillycons, always and forever.
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Sun Jul-10-11 01:47 PM
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16. I don't know. here's why |
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I live in AZ, so I'm not going to generalize about the entire nation or world. Pot smokers have to fear the police, not citizens. Gays don't fear the police (depending on where you live), but do fear citizens. The # of police is far exceded by the # of citizens.
In AZ, pot smokers have to fear raids, broken doors, and that stuff, but it's easy to hide from the police. Hiding gender preference from the all the citizens is major feat. Especially in Texas, where it can get you killed!
Bottom line, all the oppression has to stop. Cheers
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Sat Jul-09-11 04:23 PM
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Sun Jul-10-11 01:01 AM
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15. Maher always hits it on the nose. nt |
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Edited on Sun Jul-10-11 01:02 AM by ooglymoogly
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