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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 12:36 PM
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How the Middle Class Got Screwed
 
Run time: 08:14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB7jdjsFErM
 
Posted on YouTube: July 09, 2011
By YouTube Member: karinmoveon
Views on YouTube: 8839
 
Posted on DU: July 10, 2011
By DU Member: Quixote1818
Views on DU: 4543
 

This is really well done!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 12:46 PM
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1. +
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Populist_Prole Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 02:21 PM
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2. Can't see how anyone that works for a living can disagree with this
More to the point: How could ANY social issue be held with such vigor that a working class person would dismiss anything this presentation said?

You have to be literally, actually not of a sound mind to disagree.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 03:13 PM
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4. Anything short of ending slavery.
Plus one.
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JAnthony Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 03:31 PM
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7. Rebuildthedream.com Link to action steps for 2012 and beyond
This will scare the Tea Baggers and their funding sources: intelligent progressives organizing!
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tooeyeten Donating Member (441 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 02:45 PM
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3. Robber barons
This is how the rich got richer before the New Deal, excellent presentation of fact.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 03:17 PM
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5. Nice to see some folks are really doing something.
An excellent piece of work. Kr

Also went to youtube and thumbed up and favorited.
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JAnthony Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 03:28 PM
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6. Excellent summation of my lifetime!
Believe it or not, I lived in the days of the original Leave it to Beaver!

Barbara Billingsly was a stay-at-home mom!

I remember that!
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 04:55 PM
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10. Me too.......nt
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harvey007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 03:41 PM
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8. Rebuilding the American dream will mean rejecting both political parties
Both major political parties are now corporate subsidiaries working for the rich and elite.

Obama isn't going to save or protect us. Hope and change my ass.

Any movement or campaign to rebuild America is going to have to be very local and grassroots...city by city and county by county.

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BrendaBrick Donating Member (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 01:11 PM
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25. I agree.
Getting very local and grassroots (literally!)...city by city and county by county. In fact, I was just reading something along those lines today:

June 30, 2011
We Don't Need More Stuff; We Need a Different Way of Distributing the Stuff We Have.

by John Lawrence

Everyone is talking about how to get the economy moving again and how to create jobs. President Obama talks about "winning the future." This means more education, more entrepreneurialism, more new industries, more new products for consumers to buy. Surely, all this new economic activity is exactly what we need or is it? Since the GDP of the US is dependent on consumers consuming to the tune of 70% of the entire economy, it stands to reason that for the economy to expand, consumers need to consume more. But wait a minute. We are already stuffed to the gills with products rammed down our throats by TV advertisers. Maybe what we need is less consumption. Americans are already experiencing an epidemic of obesity. We should be consuming less fast food. But that would bring the profits of McDonald's down. They might even have to lay off employees. Their stock might plummet. Wal-Mart offers us a plethora of cheap crap made in China. But if we stopped buying it, Wal-Mart's profits would go down, their stock price would tumble and the Dow Jones average might even find itself in bear market territory. Everyone agrees that this would be terrible for the economy. But it might be good for the citizens.

I say we need to participate less in the market economy and be more self-subsistent. This would result in a decrease in GDP, but an increase in citizen independence. The more we rely on ourselves to fulfill our needs, the less we rely on the market economy and the better off we are when that economy goes kerflooey. The recent economic meltdown was all about Wall Street and their shenanigans. It was of paramount importance to bail out Wall Street and then all good things would follow. Bailout1 Such was the conventional wisdom. Only good things didn't follow. People's homes were foreclosed on en masse even when banks couldn't prove that they held title to the houses. Main Street, the middle class - they were not protected at all. The culprits who caused the crisis were bailed out. The average citizen who lost his job and his house and maybe even his wife was not bailed out at all. In fact Republicans are doubling down on destroying what remains of the safety net which might have helped these unfortunates to maintain the skeleton of a half way decent way of life. Congress has continued to sponsor and uphold legislation that encourages corporations to outsource jobs. The budget is to be balanced on the backs of the poor and middle class and not by asking the rich to contribute a little more. We are rapidly retreating to the Dickensian era where to ask for a little more porridge was to be answered with a "certainly not!"

What we need is not more consumption of cheap Chinese produced crap or even newly minted crap from our own entrepreneurs. What we need is a better system of distributing the immense amount of stuff that we are already capable of producing. And in particular we are in need of a more widely distributed system of ownership so that profits redound to the average citizen and not to the upper .1% who are becoming immensely wealthy far beyond their needs while the poor and middle class are being reduced to penury and poverty. What we need is a government that looks out for the little guy, not one who is all for the competitive struggle to produce more and more goods and win the future that way. How about winning the future by taking back our ability to be self-sustaining? We need to return to an era when people produced a large amount of their own food by growing it themselves instead of relying on the marketplace of consumer provided food by large agricorporations which use pesticides, herbicides and hormones to provide us with food which in most cases will not kill us right away. That will take place in 30-40 years when cancer sets in. But in a lot of cases of e coli and salmonella brought on by filthy conditions for animals in factory farms, it will kill us or sicken us immediately. So profits are concentrated in the hands of a few corporations instead of being widely distributed which would take place if there were widespread family gardening which also produces healthier foods. If everyone farmed to some extent, we would all be better off but GDP and corporate profits would decline because we wouldn't be participating to such a great extent in the market economy.

...rest of it here (second article) http://willblogforfood.typepad.com/will_blog_for_food/safety-net/
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 04:03 PM
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9. Very interesting...Thanks for posting.
The screwing was more like a gang bang..No pun intended.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 05:53 PM
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11. Everyone needs to sign up for those meet ups on July 16th and 17th! nt
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theFrankFactor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 08:33 PM
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12. "Politicians" aren't going to do shit...
This calls for serious civil action.

At least until Citizens United is overturned, our elections are publicly financed, exiting pubic officials are banned from accepting corporate jobs, our voting systems are secure we are fucked.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 09:32 PM
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13. Yep, the powers that be will just keep saying we are in trouble because of Social Security
and Medicare. George Carlin said they would get all of it and he was right, they will. I guess once there is nothing more to take is the point the dam will finally break.
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CleanGreenFuture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 11:49 PM
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14. Citizens aren't going to do shit either.
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bluesbassman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 12:10 AM
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15. So we can count you out then? Thanks for the heads up. n/t
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 04:51 AM
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18. Maybe the citizens who are willing to do shit need to become the politicians
who will do shit
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 01:48 AM
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16. Great video. Hope this goes really, really viral.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 03:30 AM
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17. K&R
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 05:12 AM
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19. K & R a million times.
Noticed a few things . . .

1. That the comments at the YouDupe link have been disabled . . . likely because too many idiots who refuse to accept they're peasants barfed out too much Yahoo-esque RW lemmingspeak which has no basis in reality.

2. Seemingly no DU defenders of the predatory rich or their disaster capitalist steamrolling have chimed in yet. You know, the ones who lurves them some Reaganomicon yet deny up and down that they do. "We cannot realistically go back to the low-tech, low-skilled jobs of the 70s again." "Sometimes, corporations cannot hire because of circumstances beyond their control." "India and China are no longer the third-world backwaters that they were in the 50s-60s, and that's simply something the American people are going to have to get over." "Some of the jobs aren't ever coming back." "We have to retrain our workforce to accomodate the jobs of the future." "All rich people aren't bad. Deny it all you want, but you need them. You cannot make a living without a major corporation pulling strings." "How are all of these corporations sitting on all of this cash going to create jobs? What jobs could they create?" "Having a new WPA would just be 'make work', like the Soviet Union. And that's not sustainable. We have to depend fully on the private sector."

3. I'd like to have an even more expanded-upon second part of this video that offers far more solutions than presented in this video, which was limited by time. Problem is, most of these solutions are likely going to happen after the old capitalist "fuck you, I gots mine" class and their more predatory, meaner minions perform a mass die-off . . . likely meaning I won't see any progressive change in MY lifetime, but my future grandchildren may. If it's not too late for them, that is.

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spicegal Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 05:22 AM
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20. Well done.....presented in a way that anyone with a 6th grade
education should be able to understand, except of course the radical right, a group of people so brainwashed that facts just don't compute when those facts don't comport with their ideology.
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Atypical Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:51 AM
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21. I like it, but I see a couple problems.
I fight this fight arguing with my relatives all the time, so I'm pretty much a master at spotting the incoming epee thrust for targets in the argument.

Here are the two major ones in the video that will have conservatives turned off of the argument straight-away.

1) The idea that people had "no choice" to take loans and live on credit. Basically, what has happened is the American standard of living has declined. But people could not accept that or did not recognize that, and in their desperation they chose to live beyond their means.

2) You'll never earn points with the idea that the rich have to pay their "fair" share. It's pretty common knowlege that the rich already pay most of the taxes in this country, and about half the country pays no taxes at all. At face value, this already does not seem fair. But that's because this is only part of the picture, and moreover, it is not the real issue.

In order to win the debate on #2 above, you have to do two things:

First of all, you have to explain that the reason why the proportion of taxes is the way it is. It's not fair that the tax burden is shifted so much to the top. The reason it is this way, however, is because wealth has shifted so much to the top. You can only tax the people with the money! As the wealth gap widens, and as wealth concentrates at the top, it is only natural that the people at the top will end up paying all the taxes. Yes, it is dangerous when a minority of the voters pay a majority of the taxes - it is two wolves and a sheep deciding on what to have for dinner. The answer is not to cut taxes for the rich, it is to broaden the tax base. And the only way you can do that is by reducing the wealth disparity.

Secondly, you will never gain traction by couching the argument as "rich against the poor". As Steinbeck said, “Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat, but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” To conservatives, rich people are simply enjoying the fruits of their labor and intellect, and everyone else simply needs to be as smart as they are and they, too can be rich. These people do not realize that the game is rigged, and moreover simple numbers indicate you have no more chance of being the next Bill Gates than you do being a rock star or sports star.

Instead, the debate needs to be couched in terms of POWER and the FOUNDING PRINCIPLES OF THIS COUNTRY, which resonate strongly with conservatives. This country was founded with the concept of decentralization of power. This is why they set up three separate branches of government (Executive, Judiciary, and Legislative) and why they did not want a standing federal army and wanted military forces under the control of the states. The founders knew that power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Even Thomas Jefferson recognized the that CONCENTRATION OF MONEY IS ALSO A CONCENTRATION OF POWER. He also knew and feared the power of monopolies.

And this is the real point that needs to be driven home to sway conservatives. No matter what the social or moral implications are of the concentration of wealth at the top, the undeniable implication is that this is a MASSIVE CONCENTRATION OF POWER. Right now the Forbes 400 control as much wealth as 1/2 of the nation. As the video shows, these people pump a million dollars a day into Washington to buy policies friendly to their financial interests.

I wish the video would drive those points home also.
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hakko936 Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 10:48 AM
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22. I don't disagree with him, but.....
....we should place the blame where it lies for the laws being changed to shift the balance of power to the rich and corporations. Neither the rich or the corporations changed these laws. It was the politicians we put in congress that were paid off to change the laws who should be blamed. A President, dem or pub, can change none of this without Congress doing the dirty work and then the President ultimately signing it.

Take a look at how many of our elected officials get rich while supposedly working for us. Ever wonder how they get rich? They are corrupt. Their corruption has allowed the rich and the corporations to take control.

THAT is how we got screwed.
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blackspade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 11:52 AM
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23. Excellent!
So concise even tea partiers and rethugs can understand.

The only issue I have with it is putting the donkey first at the corporate coach rather than the elephant (although the dangling tea cup was a nice touch).
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BrendaBrick Donating Member (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 12:22 PM
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24. Kicking up
Edited on Wed Jul-13-11 12:25 PM by BrendaBrick
The video is referenced here...left hand side - in red ink ~

http://contract.rebuildthedream.com/rate/?id=28715-18837876-PTAllsx&category=protection#
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