Why Cenk Uygur Left MSNBC - Part 1

[Tx4obama]

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Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEYkBA5ze6c

Cenk Uygur (host of The Young Turks) explains why he turned down a new, significantly larger MSNBC contract after hosting a prime-time show on the network that was beating CNN in the key demo ratings.

[jefferson_dem]

1. Poor Cenk...

Never been a big fan, and I totally understand the issue with his abrasive "tone", but I kind of feel for the guy... He's in is a tough biz.

[JDPriestly]

12. I like his tone. That's who he is. The tone is Cenk, authentic Cenk.

My early training was in music. I can very often hear whether a person is being phony or real. It's because I trained my ears. (Don't see well. Never did.)

I can hear now that Cenk is a little disappointed, but free. It's a great sound. A person whose soul is free sounds wonderful.

[Atypical Liberal]

164. I LOVE HIS TONE!

Frankly, I'm kinda glad to see him leave MSNBC. He was much more ruthless on TYT.

I hope folks like Cenk and Keith can go independent and rip the old networks apart.

[grahamhgreen]

23. Its not his tone, its the fact that he is challenging the ultra right takeover of our party.

[baldguy]

29. +1

[sasquuatch55]

47. They take you in with open arms and promises, then try to change your ways.

I suppose they think your a threat. Keep up the truth telling! And I like your style.

[wordpix]

149. sounds like MSNBC wants to be the next R.Murdoch with tentacles grasping Congressional mucky-mucks

[swilton]

66. Right On G2!

You can hardly tell the difference - I'm wondering if our loss of Ted Kennedy was one of the defining moments...Hardly anyone 'left' to fill his shoes.

[jwirr]

72. Yes and I would guess he wasn't showing enough "respect" for his

rw guest that comcast has foisted off on all of the liberal shows lately. I was using the mute button but Cenk couldn't. Hopefully he will continue with TYT and be a guest on other shows from time to time. Or join KO?

[John Agar]

87. I agree completely, and am amazed by the hostility expressed...

By a few of the posters in this thread.

Fact is, there is absolutely nothing wrong with Cenk's "tone," unless you happen to object to his holding DC DEmocrats to the same standards we expect him to hold the Repugs to.

My guess is that the naysayers here are motivated, in some cases at least, by a desire (conscious or not) to see MSNBC become a Dem "centrist" equivalent of Faux news.

[wordpix]

148. and the RW takeover of our government

[modestybl]

82. Many people ARE fans of Cenk, and Al Sharpton...

... doesn't begin to measure up as an interviewer or commentator. This is highly disturbing, and telling me that the Obama admin and the Dem leadership is into squashing dissent as vigorously as Bushco. did. I have even less reason to watch MSNBC...

[genna]

143. I'm a HUGE FAN. I think his tone is pitch perfect.

I was reading over at HuffPost (why bother, right?) and hated their central Dem voice saying Cenk was 'angry host/seeking revenge'.

I had to ask whether they saw the same video I did. I don't know if my response will be accepted, but I think it works in this discussion too.

"HuffPost's tone is set to defend the establishment. Impressive! Why don't you tell us why Phil Griffin is more credible than Cenk?

At some point, after MSNBC has let Dan Abrams, David Schuster, Keith Olbermann, and now Cenk Uyger go it has to be more than talent, personality, or ego. It has be MSNBC's corporate culture.

In the future, full disclosure of the HUFFPOST's relationship with MSNBC would be nice."

You could to their site but why give them additional traffic?

[wordpix]

151. +1

[me b zola]

154. "Tone" is code for not kissing the ass of the powers that be

Its not about being abrasive, its about speaking the truth. Did you watch the clip?

[juajen]

2. This is distressing; but, Al Sharpton challenges the republicans

just as much as Cenk did. First Keith, then him. I can't make up my mind about MSNBC. I am comfortable watching MSNBC and would hate to leave them. I don't get Current on my cable provider and I miss Keith. Now, I have to miss Cenk also. Who will be next? Rachel? Is this Comcast? Seems like it to me.

[Creideiki]

16. It's all about the red-blue summer camp color war, isn't it?

Have we no principles worth not compromising?

[John Agar]

88. I suspect so, after reading some of the anti-Cenk posts.

Cenk holds the Dems to same standards he demands of Republicans.

I guess that bothers some people.

Personally, I prefer someone who puts principles before personality.

[alp227]

21. Al Sharpton is personally too controversial for the left dontcha think?

http://jonathanturley.org/2011/07/19/report-msnbc-close-to-naming-al-sharpton-host-of-prime-time-show/

Tawana Brawley, tax evasion and violations, racial insensitivity...c'mon I don't want Sharpton to scar us more than the right wing has already done

[trumad]

32. Bill Clinton getting his dick sucked...

I guess he should quit to?

[A wise Man]

44. Come onnnnnn get real....

thats whats wrong with Dems. Toooo affraid to fight but always complaining. Can't you see whats gonig on here. Its the media stupid. Fox and the rethugs can get away with anything they want and no one says anything to stop them. Let Keith,Cenk,Shultz,Rachael or Sharpton attack the rethugs like Fox attacks Dems ooooooh thats a "NO NO". Wisconsin is trying to show everyone the way to do it. They have Dems. and rethugs going after Walker and its congress and senate. Make up your mind FIGHT or WIMP OUT...and stop complaining about those that are trying to help.

[genna]

144. Al's past mistakes ASIDE. He is barely watchable because his voice is annoying.

Who wants to sit in the pews and listen to that on Sunday? Forget about watching him on television. I used to try to tape his show on BET to see how well he reviewed an issue. It was unbearable. It is still unbearable.

[thesquanderer]

39. It's not about the republicans...

re: "This is distressing; but, Al Sharpton challenges the republicans just as much as Cenk did"

It's not about an MSNBC personality challenging the Republicans, that's what's expected of them. It's about them challenging the DEMOCRATS( from the left). That's the problem. Cenk is challenging the establishment... that includes the Obama administration.

Washington is happy with Fox Republican cheerleaders and MSNBC Democratic defenders, they see that as safe. The Democrats and Republicans largely want the same thing (something close to the status quo), and are about as different from each other as the two officers who play Good Cop and Bad Cop. Washington is happy as long as you're rooting for one of the cops. If you start saying that both cops are on the take, they want nothing to do with you.

[proverbialwisdom]

63. Cenk gave Senator Bernie Sanders a consistent speaking platform. Sharpton has not.

Sharpton is too busy debating Tea Party people. Unwatchable. I am bitterly disappointed. That's it for MSNBC for me. I am done.

[peace frog]

135. MSNBC has pratically made Michael Steele a co-anchor

for most of the prime time shows. SICKENING. I switch channels as soon as Steele's face appears on the screen. Adios, MSNBC.

[genna]

152. Ed, Rachel, and Dylan have had more Repubs on lately than they did before Keith left

I hate that Republicans are so busy talking over the host or the Democrat that no clarity has been reached on an issue. It is like watching crossfire again.

Sharpton is unbearable. For the most part, I agree with his politics. I just can't handle an hour of him.

MSNBC stands for less and less each day. Their tone and quality of entertainment is less now than it ever was.

[Plucketeer]

73. I agree with you

Since it's come to where the Dems are beholden to the special interests almost as much as the GOP is, there's not much to cheer for. I'd guess "the people in Washington" are worried they're gonna be exposed for the posers they really are. After the president's "you progressives" remark, it's hard to argue that we're being listened to with interest. Then there was Biden's "don't come to me!" admonishment the other day. Wouldn't that give a clue that "we can get along without you - so don't piss us off"???

Cenk, Current is where you belong. They're looking for REAL Dem voices over there.

[John Agar]

92. Indeed. I guess Ed and sometimes Rachel will be the only ones...

Who will challenge the administration and the Senate DINOs as they plan the next several sell-outs of Democratic principle.

[thesquanderer]

95. watch part 2

If you watch part 2 of the clip in the OP, Cenk explains why Rachel can probably get away with a bit more criticism of the Dems than he could.

I'd also venture to say that, if he chooses to go that way, Al Sharpton could get away with it too, because so many people already see him as a something of an out-of-the-mainstream extremist, or worse, an "angry black man" -- though it's probably the risk of being so marginalized that will likely prompt Sharpton to be more tempered in his commentary.

[John Agar]

100. I actually like Al very much, and resent MSNBC for pitting them..

Against each other in forums like this.

I hate seeing the stupid, ugly attacks on Sharpton just as much as I hate the ones against Cenk.

They are good people and I respect them both.

Where this "asshat" etc stuff is coming from I cannot begin to guess.

It's very divisive and inappropriate, IMHO.

[pscot]

162. That's the truth

I'll raise you. I see a racial subtext to the arguments dividing this board , and it scares the hell out of me. This Cenk VS reverend Al busimess plays neatly into that.

[PSzymeczek]

159. You can see Keith

at http://www.TheRTV.com. Click on the Current TV block. He is on at 8 ET, with repeats at 11, 2, etc.

[whatacountry09]

3. Good For You Cenk!

I hope there is no backlash for him telling the truth here. And he's right... it's exactly as we all thought it was; you gotta play the game. I hope he gets a show on Current with Keith.

[disndat]

58. Just what I was thinking.

Saw Jeanine Garofalo on K.O. a few days ago. Keith is beginning to pick up a few of the Air America people. John Dean and Prof. Jonathan Turley are on board too - a couple of his greats.

[Metta]

You did the right thing. I'll miss you.

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Best of luck. :toast:

[Tx4obama]

5. How did you get that video inside of your comment? n/t

[Mosaic]

4. Bravo Cenk!

Corporate media is the establishment, period. You did the right thing, heroically, congratulations! Journalism is supposed to be truth telling but the fascists in dc want total control over the minds of the sheep. Keep on fighting the good fight along with all of us good guys, progressives, true democrats, liberals, socialists, greens, whatever. One day we'll look back at these monopoly times as the dark ages of democracy, we will win.

[OhioChick]

6. "People in Washington are concerned about your tone..."

Think that about sums it up. Can't question or cross the powers that be.

[mikeburetta]

62. thats the rub

when "warshington" (as the tea partiers call it) has a prob with a news guy n then he gets called on the carpet that is the problem!

[AlbertCat]

78. "People in Washington are concerned about your tone..."

People in Washington are completely out of touch with the average person in America too.

You can FEEL it when you are there. It's like a bubble. And it's a right wing kinda crazy. Ruder than NYC, LA and France put together. DC and NE VA are dreadful places to be. Dreadful!

[zentrum]

7. Love you Cenk

Will follow you to your own venue. Thanks for your work over the years.

[demigoddess]

8. I like Cenk and watched him because I found him less abrasive

than some. more intelligent. And I hate it but Comcast seems to be making changes. I hate that Michael Steele is ever-present on Hardball and Al Sharpton.

[Tarheel_Dem]

9. Didn't watch the video, can't stand to look at him, but is there any corroboration...

for Cenk's departure story? Or is it just Cenk's word? :shrug:

[trumad]

33. Can't stand to look at him...

What are you---Brad Pitt.

Dumb post

[Exultant Democracy]

65. As a one off statement it certainly appears to be stupid & borderline racist without any explanation

since by "look at" many people would fairly assume the poster was referring to his appearance which is Turkish.

[julian09]

61. Are you from Washington?

[eagertolearn]

84. I was thinking the same thing....or owner of MSNBC. They must have been bought secretly from Murdoch

[CleanGreenFuture]

85. What is your reason for believing that Cenk is a liar? In questioning his version, you

are inferring that he is lying.

On what is this inference based?

[Tarheel_Dem]

90. "Inferring"? I'm saying flat out that I don't believe him. This is a face saving,

self serving move on the part of Cenk to launch him to his next doomed-to-fail project. I find it hard to believe that the WH knows, or even gives a shit about Cenk. I mean, WTF? I see this for exactly what it is......a last ditch effort to use this administration to elevate his own sad profile. There is no corroborating evidence for Cenk's claims, and that's what I have a problem with.

If Phil Griffin cut him because of pressure from the White House, then Griffin should come out and say that. Otherwise, why would he tell Cenk that? Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of his removal? Shouldn't this "grand conspiracy" have been kept silent? And if Griffin told this to Cenk in confidence, then Cenk's an even bigger asshole than I previously thought, because he just stuck the knife between Griffin's shoulder blades & twisted it. Either way, I think it's funny as hell. It has all the hallmarks of a bad Greek tragedy.
:rofl:

[CleanGreenFuture]

94. So, you think he's lying without providing a lie from Cenk to back it up. Got it.

[Tarheel_Dem]

101. Trust, but verify. And there's no way to "verify" Cenk's claims. Simple really.

:shrug:

[CleanGreenFuture]

129. From MSNBC (Phil Griffin): "It's unfortunate that Cenk has declined our offer to have him develop

and host a program for another time slot," MSNBC adds.

ETA Link: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Cenk+has+declined+our+offer+to+have+him+develop%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

There's your verification.

So far, Cenk has shown more character than you have.

[Divine Discontent]

133. shh,... let 'em go on with their strange hatred of him to the point of not being able to watch him,

but does allow them to spend several minutes attacking him. If someone doesn't like a guy, fine, but to berate him as a lying whatever, is a bit absurd. Thank you for verifying a HUGE portion of his story. They would of course be offering him a contract at this point, and your post shows that. He clearly didn't want to be a robot - good for Cenk! He's honorable.

[CleanGreenFuture]

136. You know, I haven't been here long. Maybe you can help me understand

the vicious hatred for Progressives here on Democratic Underground.

I just don't get it. Can you or somebody please explain why a segment of the Dem Party is treated with such contempt here?

[Divine Discontent]

145. I PM'd you

[CherylK]

102. Um, why did they offer him DOUBLE the money for a much smaller role?

Answer that please. And Griffin confirms they had the 'tone' conversation. Did you even watch the video?!

:eyes:

[Tarheel_Dem]

103. Was Griffin in the video? Did he confirm "DOUBLE the money"?

:shrug:

Nobody at the White House gives a shit about Cenk. Mmmkay? :eyes:

[CherylK]

104. Griffin did not dispute the contract offer in the Times interview!!!

If Cenk was lying about his contract offer Phil would have made that clear when he gave his side about the tone stuff!

How much do you want to stretch your Cenk hate?! Jesus...

:crazy: :wtf:

[Tarheel_Dem]

116. The absence of evidence, is not the evidence of absence.

:rofl:

[rpannier]

155. You work at the White House?

Or does your college roommate

[PSzymeczek]

160. DC doesn't necessarily mean the politicians.

It means the DC bureau of NBC.

[LiberalLovinLug]

109. What an ugly thing to say

I am appalled that you put a "Dem" in your name. Its embarrassing.

I do not watch Cenk religiously, only clips on DU once in awhile when I am interested in the topic. But whenever I do I find him a little brash, but refreshingly honest and someone that verbalizes perfectly a lot of the frustration we progressives are feeling about the Obama administration.

First off why would he say that happened if it wasn't true? Think about it a little. So he'd make something up to purposely burn his bridges with MSNBC when he didn't have to? He can't lie about his ratings, which he showed were blowing away the competition, so what was the reason he left? Offered twice the money for a smaller role. Is it that you cannot fathom how someone would not swallow his/her principles and take the money?

Why would Griffin come out and admit that kind of conversation? That would be totally stupid for him to do.

And why is Cenk an "asshole" for telling us about it? He has no loyalty to MSNBC now. It's an interesting story and confirms what he and many of us suspect about the media culture in Washington. You'd rather not hear it, especially from someone that "looks" like that.

Its a "Greek tragedy" but its also "funny as hell"? Bizarre. You do not make any sense.

[CherylK]

110. +1

:toast:

[Jakes Progress]

113. +1

Some (and notice that I said some) Obama lovers are giving liberals and Democrats a bad name.

[Tarheel_Dem]

117. WTF do I care about what Cenk "looks like"? Talk about making no sense.

I'd dislike Cenk no matter what flavor he came in. Them's just facts. He's a despicable lying asshole, and I despise him. Is that good enough? I AM NOT A FAN! :hi:

[LiberalLovinLug]

118. I don't know, please tell us why you "can't stand to look at him"

And when has he lied? Please provide links.

So you're not a fan. That's your prerogative, but you do not have to publicly dump on him so viciously. Just DON'T WATCH HIM.
What is your real beef with him? Are you an ex-girlfriend? Your hate is way over the top. Truly bizarre reaction against one of the few voices progressives have in the sea of right wing MSM drivle.

Which Washington Blue Dog do you report to?

[CherylK]

+1!!!!!!

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[Tarheel_Dem]

121. No Blue Dog here. I'm a dyed in the wool LIFELONG Democrat. I had no sudden "conversions".

And as far as "few progressive voices"? Really? I didn't know. The professionals who get paid to tell you what to think don't impress me much. It's why Air America and so many other ventures have failed. They don't speak to the broader DEMOCRATIC party.

Look, you can worship whomever you choose, but I choose not to kiss Cenk's booty. As far as relationships, I'm surprised he ever got a date, let alone married. :rofl:

:edit for mispelling

[MessiahRp]

138. All of the Blue Dogs?

Or maybe the other side. All one needs to do is read his posts to question why he comes here.

Rp

[shellgame26]

86. ditto

Never saw him as a high quality guy. And I used to listen back in the AA young turks days. I remember one show where all he talked about was admiring large breasts.
I think the bottom line is ratings. People want to listen to quality commentary, he ain't it!

[Tarheel_Dem]

91. Exactly. He was a loser then, and not a lot has changed.

:hi:

[LiberalLovinLug]

111. Loser?

Please tell us how you have made an incredibly greater success of yourself and done more in the cause of getting the truth out there than Cenk has. This should be good.

:popcorn:

[Tarheel_Dem]

115. I was never a Republican. I think that's a good start, don't you?

:shrug:

[Creideiki]

161. No.

I'd prefer someone who was formerly a Republican and has figured out what's wrong with them to someone who can't figure out what to believe in until Dear Leader delivers the talking points.

[Tarheel_Dem]

163. Conversion for a price, doesn't impress me, but you go with that, mmmmkay?

;)

[Creideiki]

166. Religions that don't allow converts generally die out

Compare the number of Christians in the world to the number of Zoroastrians.

I'll take an intelligent person who figures out that their beliefs were wrong any day over...

[Tarheel_Dem]

167. So Cenk = good republican operative?

Andrew Breitbart = not so much? :shrug:

[Creideiki]

168. No...

Cenk=convert after finding out the Republicans are batpoop crazy.

Breitbart wasn't in this conversation. Please don't Gish Gallop.

[spooked911]

127. "one show where all he talked about was admiring large breasts"

I find that hard to believe.

Cenk is a bit of a blowhard sometimes, but he is a strong progressive voice. And he WAS getting good ratings.

[JTFrog]

137. Exactly.

The episode where he showed his disdain for plus size models highlights what a P.I.G. pig the guy is. Even implied that skinny women deserved higher pay.

But apparently he's a born again "progressive" misogynist. :eyes: Maybe he could try to get a show on Spike.

[John Agar]

93. Now THAT is hostility. But WHY? nt.

[Name removed]

114. Deleted message

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[CherylK]

120. +1

:thumbsup:

[John Agar]

139. Thanks.

I'm quite taken aback by some of the negativity here.

[MessiahRp]

132. Not a surprise coming from you.

Not at all.

Rp

[Name removed]

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[bluestateboomer]

19. Yeah!

I was thinking he should join Keith.

[JAnthony]

57. Keith is having Cenk on tonight... on Countdown!!! n/t

[CleanGreenFuture]

124. That poster got banned. What did they say?

[SleeplessinSoCal]

157. Keith Tweeted following their interview....

"Keith Olbermann
Oh for God's sake we ran out of time and I had to interrupt Cenk! Sorry, Brother... I hate doing that. Though the irony is enjoyable."

He also said that they'll be in touch. I'm betting Cenk goes to Current. Maybe all "The Young Turks".

[JDPriestly]

11. Cenk, That's one of the several reasons that I do not

subscribe to cable or watch TV.

It's corrupt. From the "entertainment" to the "news," it's corrupt. It is not real. There is a movie entitled "The Joneses." It shows what TV and advertising in general is about.

TV is about selling products people don't need to people who can't afford them.

We don't need what is going on in D.C. today. We need honest spokespeople like you.

Thanks for all you do.

[KansDem]

119. "Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House" (1948)

TV is about selling products people don't need to people who can't afford them.

This sentiment's been around for quite a while:

Joan Blandings: Miss Stellwagon says advertising makes people who can't afford it, buy things they don't want, with money they haven't got.

IMDB: Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House

...and it's still true 63 years later!

[SleeplessinSoCal]

158. If you ain't eating Wham, you ain't eating ham!!

[Dawson Leery]

13. Cenk was one of Obama's boosters during the primaries.

[FLAprogressive]

14. yeah, well, like the rest of us, he's getting thrown under the bus.

[bbgrunt]

15. Cenk: thanks for being a truth teller. It is M$NBC's loss.

When we turn this country around, your stock will be solid gold. I never could stand to watch caged animals. We're with you!!

[wordpix]

150. I'm watching less TV & more webcasts like TYT ---TV cable won't last much longer

With the internet, you can pick and choose what you want to want---Rachel, Keith, Ed, TYT, Youtube, etc. You don't have to stick with what the suits in bed with Congress want.

Isn't that what Rupert Murdoch's scandal is all about, overall? :shrug:

[20score]

17. Good on ya!

[Cowpunk]

18. They can't handle the truth.

So fuck 'em. Cenk's better on TYT anyway.

[grahamhgreen]

20. Cenk. You made the right decision.

But don't burn your bridges. Keep the doors open.

Keep your access.

Remember, MSNBC insiders can funnel info to you.

I wonder how the stockholders feel about a corporation that is willing to lose money (ratings), in order to propagandize right wing ideology.

[kimsarah]

22. Right decision

Cenk represents my views more than any of the other TV hosts at MSNBC or elsewhere, with Dylan Ratigan a close 2nd. I like Ed, Lawrence, and really like Rachel, but they really don't compare to you, Cenk, for cutting through the B.S. and telling it straight -- totally unafraid of the powerful Dems or Repukes.
As long as you make enough money to live fairly decently, hanging onto your soul and remaining yourself are far more important. You made the right decision and won't regret it.
Here's my take on what might have happened. The "big boys" don't mind half-assed criticism, and they even enjoy a chuckle when someone dances around their feet. But they don't like it when they believe their toes have been stepped on. Obama's camp is sweating bullets because the progressive base is abandoning him, and you represent a visible progressive figure and voice who represents anti-establishment -- the establishment that has screwed this country and is intent on inflicting much more damage. You have been getting too close to the truth, which hurts, and were targeted as a scapegoat to try and stop the bleeding, by removing you. Plus, I figured it was only a matter of time before the Comcast boys started flexing their power to get rid of strong voices on MSNBC. These clowns think they can silence the rest of us by picking off a few at the top. I hate to think this, but I wouldn't be surprised if one by one the others start falling off the TV screen if they don't start playing ball and sucking up to the Obamabots and dipshit Republicans.
The "big boys" at all the networks don't want hard-hitting journalism from anybody, anywhere. They want to keep stamping it out, and have all the money (that they stole from taxpayers) and power to do it. Wall Street is in bed with Washington, like Murdoch has been in bed with British authority. I hope folks like yourself and Keith come back to television even stronger with financial backers who can't be threatened, blackmailed or blackballed by the big boys. In the meantime, go Young Turks!

[Hulk]

24. This is just sad!

I miss Cenk on TV. Is his show on TV also, somewhere? I'd love to watch him. It's hard to find an intelligent show. Ed makes me want to vomit most of the time. Tweety is abnoxious. Laawrence O'Donnel and Rachel are priceless. Even the new host, Bashir? is very interesting. But the Al Sharpton is a disaster. He knows how to lick from the hand that feeds him...but he is a TERRIBLE host. His talent is NOT in hosting a show. What more needs to be said.

I'm sorry Cenk. You did it all, and you did it well. This is what our country's media has sunk to. Pathetic. They play to the piper. Glad you quit tho, if they were going to try to reduce you to a pawn.

[Prana69]

25. Good for you Cenk. Hold to your values. At least someone has some integrity. n/t

[SharksBreath]

27. 7pm Current TV. He would be great in that spot.

[Ganja Ninja]

38. Make it 5pm and 7pm going head to head with Tweedy.

Matthews is one of the establishment. You can tell in the way he interviews people. Big names get the kid glove treatment and nobody's get raked over the coals.

[libodem]

26. Absolutely respect that

:patriot:

[Tx4obama]

28. Cenk will be a special guest on Countdown w/ Keith Olbermann Thursday night

Cenk will be a special guest on Countdown w/ Keith Olbermann Thursday night

http://tinyurl.com/3vnpd9h

[LittleGirl]

30. Thanks for posting.

Cenk, I talk with my hands too...I'm very sorry to hear that they let you down. Looking forward to seeing you on Keith tonight. You're my hero for sticking to your principals.

Money doesn't buy you happiness, it only pays the bills.

[baldguy]

31. Something tells me that TPTB gave the same speech to Keith and Ed in turn.

Keith said "Thanks, but no thanks". Ed said "OK, I'm in. Where do I sign?".

[Hubert Flottz]

34. MSNBC is getting almost as bad as FOX...

It happened last election cycle too. This time it will be even worse.

[Inuca]

42. Absolutely

Larry O'Donnell or O'Reilly, Rachel or hannity.... who to watch? They are just the same (almost).

[Hubert Flottz]

48. If they tone down on demand, they are FOX lite.

But really I was talking about the daytime hacks on MSNBC.

[formercia]

35. The 'Talk'

The boys tried to co-opt Cenk and he was too smart for them. I'm proud of him for sticking to his principles.

Everyone who makes waves gets the 'Talk.' Some people say "I don't want to remember anything." and take the Money.

[stlsaxman]

54. "You have meddled with the primal forces of Nature, Mister Beale...!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI5hrcwU7Dk

[Ganja Ninja]

36. You know what the best revenge would be.

Bring the Young Turks to Current at both 5:00 and 7:00 and go head to head with Tweedy.

[Paper Roses]

37. Thank you Cenk for showing some spine. Hope to see you

somewhere else soon.

[erebusman]

40. that had to be a hard decision for Cenk.

I can sympathize with Cenk having some mixed feelings. He's probably putting on a pretty big positive outlook for us because surely inside he must still be very mixed about what happened.

I'm sure Cenk had dreams of bringing a new style and authenticity of progressive views to mainstream TV/Cable and changing the world.
I'm sure Cenk like any of us could use the money.
He also mentioned the perks were nice too.


But I cant express what a relief it is to see someone STAND UP for progressive ideas. and refuse to be shackled.

I'd like to send a very heart-felt THANK YOU to Cenk for being a stand up man!

[Danchi]

41. My way or the highway

Tone is the buzz word for challenge. It's not just the republicans he challenges, it's every guest. I love it. Al Sharpeton challenges and he'll be more difficult to handle than Cenk. MSNBC has become a my way or the highway station.

[Divine Discontent]

43. you did good, Cenk. honorable to a fault! way to BE! screw the money, you got money & can work!

they want you silenced a bit because you speak to the younger crowd, generally, and they thought they'd power play you and push you out of your show to offer you double the money to be a lot more quiet.

[timefortherevolution]

45. Wow. Not surprised at all.

Tried to contact the show one night after Cenk called out
a republican shill, wouldn't allow him to recite talking points ( reciting talking points-strongly encourage on all
corporate new shows)....couldn't find aaaaannnyy links to Cenk's show on MSNBC's website.

YOU SUCK MSNBC....further proof to me we're held hostage by corporate facsists.

[PassingFair]

46. Love you, Cenk! Sharpton is a carnival barker.

I will miss the truth.

[radhika]

49. It's not just Elections and Policy - People don't count in television either

The preferences of everyday people don't count anywhere do they?

The PTB knows how they want this country to work, and they've got the money to control the playing field and the information matrix. We get to see what THEY decide we can see.

[postulater]

50. Never saw the show, but I like him just from this.

Now I want to watch him wherever he goes.

Good man.

[Greybnk48]

51. Call Keith!! Current can use you as you are! ; )

I like Al Sharpton too. He's not the enemy here, how silly to compare them. Al!! Go over to Current with Cenk!


As an aside: I wonder if Cenk's pissing off the "Manatee of the Airwaves", Limpbaugh, had anything to do with his dismissal. Interesting.

[bdamomma]

52. oh well, anyone who tells the truth is out on their a$$

Cenk stay true to yourself and your listeners, you did the right thing, who wants to be dictated on how to do your own show. MSNBC loss.

[fasttense]

53. At 1st, I thought Cenk was a little boring.

But then he got really interesting when he found his voice.

I really missed him when they stuck in Al.

I love his tone, I love TYT and I'm proud he didn't get co-oped by the RepubliCON-lite Democrats.

He has proven beyond all doubt that progressive liberal TV can make money and lots of it.

[RoccoRyg]

55. Good going, Cenk.

As said in "Inherit the Wind", the job of the press is the comfort the afflicted and afflict the comforted."

Not anymore. Now they are the comforted and only comfort the afflicted if it will grab ratings as a sob story.

I wish we had a real liberal network that would truly challenge authority.

[JAnthony]

56. Keith Olbermann just tweeted that Cenk will be on Keith's show tonight!!

Just a heads up !

I think Keith likes to rub the faces of the execs at MSNBC in their own shit!

This will be GREAT!

[ejbr]

59. REALLY?!!!

:D

[JAnthony]

67. YES, REALLY Here's his latest Tweet...

"Keith Olbermann
Reminder: Cenk Uygur of @TheYoungTurks joins me tonight on Countdown, 8PM ET @Current TV"

[ejbr]

146. Cool! Thanks!! n/t

[julian09]

71. Would like Cenk to make an announcement on Keith's show

I wonder how flexible the programing is at Current Tv, Keith is definitely interested, this is right up his ally. Keith can't carry the whole load.
I'm surprised they don't go after Ratigan, he's a real bomb thrower at the status quo. Ed goes after O as well but is more of a labor advocate.
Chris is wasting his talent on speculation on who is up and who is down. He should use his considerable talent to educate viewers on issues, his last two minutes are the ones worth watching. Cenk was a great addition to Msnbc, could be a better fit at
Current TV.

[tiny elvis]

60. those are very challenging observations you made, cenk

but six o'clock is medication time

[eagertolearn]

64. Best talk I have ever seen him give. Good for him for following

his principals! The only good person left now is Rachel. I watch her on the internet without all those stupid commercials.

[joanbarnes]

68. Maybe there is a role for Cenk on Current TV

[Erose999]

69. It seems like to succeed at M$NBComca$t one must remain on the defensive. The moment the hosts push

their momentum to the offensive is when they get canned.

Some of the hosts can play that game well for a while like Keith and Rachel. But just as Keith's were, Rachel's days there are numbered. If she were ever to go on the attack with a Rethug guest she'd ba canned.

Eventually MSNBC will be populated exclusively by "centrist" Rethugs like Joey Scabs and DLC eunuchs like Lawrence O' Donnell. As eager as he seems to please the White House and its corporate benefactors like GE (who owns the other half of MSNBC), I don't even think Sharpton will last. I give him 2 months, tops.

[Daphne08]

70. I'm really going to miss Cenk, but I do admire him for standing

up for his principles!

[Liberal_Dog]

74. K & R

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[JTFrog]

76. lol n/t

[Mikeystyle]

77. Call this number and complain to MSNBC

Tell the operator you want to leave a comment and you'll get transferred to the right department for that. Don't yell at the operators, by the way, they don't have anything to do with it.

MSNBC: 212-664-4444

[valerief]

98. The hell with MSNBC. Call Current and tell them to pick all the good personalities.

Including Rachel and Ed. MSNBC can be a Scabby Dead Intern/Tweety/Mrs. Greenspan/prison network.

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[rhett o rick]

79. There is no place in CorpMedia for integrity. Thanks for not selling out. nm

[Why Syzygy]

80. There's the word!

I haven't watched broadcast news for years! This might point out why not and why are you still watching it??

[Britethorn]

81. Bravo!

One doesn't normally see integrity like that so openly displayed. I hope NBC doesn't put out a "hit" on him!

[Imagevision]

83. GE owns MSNBC - Chris Mathews? "controlled tone"

[boycottfaux]

89. Honor and integrity . .

How refreshing . .

I hope Cenk gets a slot on Current TV (great network; great
documentaries) and of course, KEITH!

[libmom74]

96. Thank you Cenk for sticking

to your principles.

[valerief]

97. Excellent, Cenk! nt

[dorksied]

99. Cenk, we got your back! TYT forever!

[SleeplessinSoCal]

130. Is Current a possibility?

[Remember Me]

105. Thank you SO much for posting this. I miss him terribly.

I have always appreciated and stood up for Al Sharpton, but he's no Cenk Uygur.

[Tx4obama]

141. You're welcome. AND Welcome to DU :)

:hi:

[SleeplessinSoCal]

106. Mostly Sh*t NBC.

[sulphurdunn]

107. We're the establishment?

Establishment=Defenders of the status quo=Conservative=Reactionary.

[Uncle Joe]

108. Honor to Cenk for his strong sense of integrity.

Thanks for the thread, Tx4obama.

[jzodda]

112. Go Cenk! Now please give him an hour at Current :)

n/t

[totodeinhere]

122. Cenk Uygur To Go On Keith Olbermann’s Show

Cenk Uygur, who got his show on MSNBC because of the departure of Keith Olbermann, then proceeded to burn more than a few bridges on his way out, is about to burn the last one — and there isn’t a boat big enough to get back across — as he goes on “Countdown with Keith Olbermann” on CurrentTV tonight.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/cenk-uygur-to-go-on-keith-olbermanns-show_b77637

[MessiahRp]

140. What a petty bunch of attacks in their write up...

MSNBC has railroaded a number of hosts out and it's Cenk's fault for declining their offer? Whatever.

Rp

[totodeinhere]

142. Agreed. I was just throwing that link out there for people to see. n/t

[ihavenobias]

170. Better link

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2011/07/the-young-turks-cenk-uygur-out-at-msnbc-but-still-online.html

[CTyankee]

123. This is depressing. I believe that what he is saying is true.

someone once said that in bureaucracies, you are penalized for telling the truth, not for telling a lie.

Something tells me that what Cenk has recounted here is largely true. In the bureaucracies I worked in, this has been depressingly the case...

[idrahaje]

125. Lamestream media is almost all right wing nowadays

all the good real news are on indie channels. Current has Keith, Cenk has... hey current put Cenk on. Which we could get Current.

never forget Fox Owns part of NBC or whatever. so MSNBCFOX still rings true, and without Rachel that show is Fox. Well frankly it's Fox part 2. Fox 1 has Shepherd Smith, Fox 2 has Rachel Maddow. go figure.

[BEZERKO]

128. Hated to see him go,

but I understand why he left the show now.

[Tx4obama]

131. Heads Up! Cenk will be a special guest on Countdown w/ Keith Olbermann Thursday night (TONIGHT)

Cenk will be a special guest on Countdown w/ Keith Olbermann Thursday night

http://tinyurl.com/3vnpd9h

[Jim_Shorts]

134. I'll be watching for you on Current TV Cenk

MSNBC is going to dogs anyway, bringing on Michael Steele to water down any liberal message. They kicked Phil Donahue off with very good numbers and tried to replace him with Michael Savage. Have to spew the corporate line, no such thing as speaking truth to power.

heres a good site, Rebel Headquarters, one of my favs http://www.theyoungturks.com/

[wordpix]

147. this patriot did the right thing & will receive blessings & good karma

that will come from standing up to the "go along with the we-have-the-money" bullies.

:patriot:

[WillyT]

153. Thank You Cenk !!! - You Are A TRUE Patriot !!!

:yourock:

:patriot:

:kick:

[HomerRamone]

156. The voice on the clip he played at the end of part 1--VERY familiar

or is it just me?

[Divine Discontent]

165. it's that hyper GOP candidate from Ohio - Phil Davison! LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLjN2I3xQ4w The Braveheart Remix


DRASTIC TIMES REQUIRES WHAT?!!?!?!!!???? DRASTIC MEASURES, YES!!!! WHO SAID THAT???!!! THANK YOU!!! TELL YOUR FRIENDS, TELL YOUR NEIGHBORS, TELL RANDY GONZALEZ!!!! POLITICS IS ABOUT WINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I love he played that in his explanation of leaving MSNBC.

[dreamnightwind]

169. Kicking for Cenk

Unbelievable story. They said the things to him that usually are silently understood, such as you need to play ball, you're too critical of the political establishment, put more Republicans on your show, etc. I hope Media Matters or FAIR take up this story, it's the rare case where the invisible hand becomes visible.

And a huge shout-out to Cenk for turning down their offer of a different role. It would have been tempting. He's one of a only a few reporters who won't be told how to frame the news. They tend to lose their MSM jobs if they're too principled.