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Mon Oct-08-07 01:08 PM
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Dana Perino, punching bag, WH press briefing take 2, |
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Indeed. How do we know we "don't torture" if no one knows what the definition of torture is? You have to almost feel sorry for Perino, who certainly must have thought that selling her soul wouldn't be this difficult.
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Mon Oct-08-07 01:10 PM
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Mon Oct-08-07 01:17 PM
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"Cloaked in a Classified System." :rofl:
You just can not make this shit up.
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Mon Oct-08-07 01:30 PM
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3. You can't sell something you don't have. |
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Right now, I am hatin' me some Dana.
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DrDan
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Mon Oct-08-07 01:31 PM
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4. that is pathetic . . . I wish the people around the world could see this and |
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see how this administration is so afraid of citizens becoming more aware of their bizarre, unethical, immoral, and probably illegal tactics
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Mon Oct-08-07 01:49 PM
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6. the world knows already that we are torturing people. |
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I wish more Americans knew about it.
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DrDan
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Mon Oct-08-07 04:40 PM
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9. I hear you. But . . . I would sure like the rest of the world to know |
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that Americans, in general, are being kept from this information. That the vast majority do not support it. Do not group the majority of us with these cretins. They hate America because of these actions - that does not mean they have to hate Americans.
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Tue Oct-09-07 02:56 AM
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16. Between the ignorance, the hubris, the arrogance and the corruption |
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of America we do recognize that most Americans are not evil or indecent. I maintain that there has to be something approaching a majority of American voters too spoiled, too arrogant and too greedy to vote in their own long term selfinterest. Perhaps that is true of quite a few countries but it gets very ugly when its a very powerful country.
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DrDan
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Tue Oct-09-07 06:36 AM
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17. I agree - our advantage in terms of relative worth has made |
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truly arrogant international travelers. I have heard on more than one occassion where an American would nearly demand someone in another country speak English - a shop owner, a hotel employee or the like. Then walk away shaking their head not believing the ignorance of that person not being able to speak English. Truly disgusting.
Or food - not enjoying the food of another country. Or worse, looking "down" at the restaurant selections as if they were beneath them. It is not exactly like our chili-dogs, twinkies, fried twinkies, and the like is haute cuisine.
The worst part is that it always needs to be done so loudly. Ever hear a soft-spoken Texas traveler? I know - that is a horrible generalization - but you get the point.
My wife and I refuse to group-travel or even travel where Americans are likely to group. It is just too embarrasssing to be seen as a part of our own.
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Tue Oct-09-07 02:40 AM
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15. Thanks to the internet we can actually - and we do. n/t |
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Mon Oct-08-07 01:47 PM
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5. Why the hell won't those reporters just ask "What was Abu Ghraib? Was that |
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torture or degrading treatment?" Bush**Co called it a "college prank" when it was discovered. Now they say they don't torture.
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Mon Oct-08-07 03:24 PM
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7. Right in this moment I am watching a documentary on |
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French/German TV station about US torture, it's 2 hours long and covers a lot about it, even torturing on "24" and the "guy with ticking timebomb in custody" bullshit.
Believe me, the world probably knows more about what's going on than US citizens...
PS : The documentary is called "taxi to the dark side" by Alex Gibney, you can google it, trailer on youtube
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Mon Oct-08-07 04:17 PM
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8. "I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so... |
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... because, um, some people out there in our nation don't have legal definitions of torture and, uh, I believe that our, uh, education like such as, uh, South Africa and, uh, the Iraq and everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should, uh, our torture policy over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., uh, should help South Africa and should help Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future."
-Dana Perino, 10-5-07
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Mon Oct-08-07 05:28 PM
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10. holy cow, this woman speaks for the whitehouse? |
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and she has a disdain for the American people like that? What has happened to our country?
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Mon Oct-08-07 06:31 PM
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11. Ultimately hiding harsh torture under the guise of |
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national security. Goddamn bastards.
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Mon Oct-08-07 10:22 PM
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13. It is really, really, really important that we keep this stuff secret... |
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because if you all knew what we are doing, you'd say it was torture and we'd be in jail.
On a side.. I have now run into people who believe torture is ok... Somehow people have been able to twist the lies and doublespeak in their heads so that they believe its ok to torture people... somehow these people being tortured deserve it because they want to kill us.... So many stupid people out there... so many bigotted people out there... and the education system is sytematically being dumbed down and patriotized up to ruin future generations.
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Mon Oct-08-07 11:15 PM
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Could she sound any more patronizing???
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