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CherylK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 12:57 AM
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Young Turks: Michael Moore Vs Elisabeth Hasselbeck On Osama Bin Laden
 
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Posted on YouTube: September 16, 2011
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Posted on DU: September 17, 2011
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Elisabeth Hasselbeck sparred with Michael Moore over if 9/11 plotter Osama Bin Laden should have received a trial in New York City. Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian discuss.
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 01:46 AM
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1. Blech...
I cannot stomach that woman.
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Hoosier Daddy Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 02:18 AM
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2. Moore is Right
But I've shed no tears over bin Laden's fate. :shrug:
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Kalidurga Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 03:19 AM
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3. I don't agree with either of them.
Osama did not deserve a trial, but he would have been granted a trial had he surrendered and had not posed a threat. I don't believe Osama was executed at least not in the strictest sense, he was shot because he posed a threat or at least he posed an unknown danger. It wasn't just in the time frame that he was spotted and the Seals went in to get him that he had to surrender, he had 10 years to turn himself in and failed to do so. Then he made no attempt to surrender and as a matter of fact probably ordered his people to fight the Seals to the death which some of them did, and then he proceeded to hide behind one of his wives, she was shot for her trouble.
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SharksBreath Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:07 AM
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8. I completely disagree with you.
Edited on Sat Sep-17-11 09:08 AM by SharksBreath
One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist and we all know Bin Laden used to be our freedom fighter.

The rest of the story is clouded. We probably won't be here when our freedom loving government finally releases the files 50 years from now of the true story.

Like so many times before I'm sure the people of the United States were sold a pack of lies.

See Vietnam.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 03:24 AM
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4. But Elisabeth Hasselbeck and her right wing cohorts
are NOT better then they are. And that is the problem. What an AIRHEAD!
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 05:46 AM
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5. Elisabeth Hasselbeck
is part of the American Taliban, and Taliban trials are a hit squad taking out the defendant with extreme prejudice. She represents a toxic death cult.
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tclambert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 06:14 AM
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6. So Hasselback wants Seal Team Six to go kill Casey Anthony?
If a trial doesn't work out to her satisfaction, she wants to authorize assassination as a way to augment our justice system?
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freedom fighter jh Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 06:52 AM
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7. How does she know he killed thousands?
That was an unproved assertion by the government. The idea of trial by jury is that such a thing is not enough to hang a person.

And she says the right to a fair trial is a right granted to Americans. I'd like her to find a place in the Declaration of Independence or the U.S. Constitution that says rights are just for Americans. In effect U.S. law protects rights mostly just for U.S. citizens, but that's only because it's mostly to U.S. citizens that U.S. law applies. In fact, according to conservatives like her, we're supposed to be spreading democracy around the world -- wouldn't that start with basics like a fair trial?

There is something to the argument that they had to kill him because they could not take him alive. I'm just not sure I believe it.
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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:30 AM
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9. Legally Osama Bin Laden should have been brought to the Hague
He should have been given a trial. The assassination was a crime.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 12:39 PM
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11. we would never have allowed that...
we can't let some commie euro court decide his fate :sarcasm: (just in case)
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lsewpershad Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 11:55 AM
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10. I thought
The "evil doers" of 9/11 were Saudis. Thank god not all blonds are stupid just the hassel lady.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 12:40 PM
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12. I would watch this...
but it would be like watching a teacher debate a 4 year old (and I am being generous, Lizzy)
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