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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 01:15 AM
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Pelosi To Code Pink: You're not my constituents!
 
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'Nancy Pelosi was not a happy camper this morning. Nancy Pelosi is known for saying one thing while doing another. She ran on the platform that she would stop the 'wasteful deaths of our troops in Iraq' but left out the part where she would fund the war until a month before the next Presidential election. Pelosi is also known as the 'Carbon Criminal Leader Of The House' by those in the Green...'
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 01:42 AM
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1. This is so upsetting.
:(
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 01:49 AM
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3. in what sense, dear...
cause i see ill formed players on all sides :(
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 02:04 AM
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5. Well, it's the "want of a nail" thing.
The conversation between the district and Nancy is as dysfunctional as that of an alcoholic family. Everyone is reacting. That won't help anything.

Code Pink got right up into her face and many of us flinch away from that confrontation. But to be fair, she's denied us a meeting for nearly a year and a half.

It just makes me so sad that our first woman Speaker and her constituents have fallen out so much and at a time like this. And to be honest, her off the cuff remarks about poverty make me ill.

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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 02:28 AM
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9. As mentioned below, Nancy lives and has lived a very sheltered life...
as has & does Diane, SF is consider by so many to be liberal/progressive and I suppose that on some balance scale it tips that way, but you & I both know, Beth, that there is allot of conservative thought round that town. And a *whole* bunch of people just trying to pay rent & get along. A whole bunch.

Sadly, 'the talk' can be as cheap as it comes, and my greater sense is that absent her position she'd be just another limo splashing our ankles with gutter water on their way to Alioto's...or wherever. Likely few places that we would go.

Perhaps she no longer believes what she is saying, if in fact she ever did truly. May she be happy in the life she has chosen.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 02:55 AM
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12. I think that's right and that we're annoying the hell out of her
as opposed to getting through to her.

And it's not just Nancy, not by a long shot. There's a big disconnect between just plain people and the political class. For me, anyway, this isn't about Nancy as a person at all.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 10:29 AM
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18. nope, not just Nancy by a long shot, that system back in DC is like wearing the ring...
regardless of good intention, it is able to taint all comers especially the weak willed, weak minded; which DC is not found for want of lacking
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:58 AM
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16. the fact is, code pink's views represent her SF cong. district, Pelosi represents
something else.

Her district is adamantly opposed to continued funding, Pelosi refuses to lead for a cut-off.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 11:46 AM
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19. She won't even talk to us. It's depressing that instead of
working together, we have to get into this conflict. Or, it seems that way today. Maybe I just need a bowl of Wheaties.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 01:10 PM
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22. code pink goes into the lion's den and gets arrested. How many
people anywhere, let alone on this forum, would do that for the country's good. I find it hard to see code pink get criticized. at least they aren't going into that good night quietly. Pelosi doesn't have a damned clue. she's old school weinie dem: she thinks you can finesse stuff and things will change. we have to throw bombs to save the country and the world. we are fighting evil here and she just REFUSES to get it. I hope she gets an ulcer.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 01:45 PM
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25. There will always be tension between this forum and CP
because while some of our aims intersect, they are not identical at all.

I hope Nancy has a moment of clarity and soon.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 11:19 PM
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32. its unfortunate. they actually stand for something they are willing to
pay a price for. pelosi just wants her pay and perks. I am sure she believes she is doing something right here but the chorus should be a hint of discontent. but then again, they live in a bubble, all of them.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 01:48 AM
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2. Jheez, I Remember When I Was Happy She Became The
Speaker of the House. Now I am just ashamed to have ever believed she would represent us well.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 02:00 AM
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4. I just think the process wears even the sharpest down to a nub...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 02:15 AM
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7. I agree with that and in fact, I'm glad (for example) Al isn't running again
because you have to know that the process takes years off of your life.

But this whole deal has been mishandled and hugely mishandled.

For example, instead of telling us in July that the Petreus report would magically hang Bush, why not come clean? Why not say, "I don't see a way to end this war until we win the White House"?

The progressive community here has been emotionally shoved off a cliff.

Maybe there are enough rich people in the loop so that it won't matter to the DLC campaigns.


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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 02:33 AM
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10. now *that* I am down with, Hillary was/is starting to get that...
"Mirror, mirror, on the wall." demeanor about her, and she had (least i could see it) a rather internally troubled look on her face when she was asked about how she'd feel if Gore jumped in...

...I don't think she likes prospect = oh well :shrug:

Gore won the first time, if he & Tipper & the family are ready, I think he's in :thumbsup:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 01:38 PM
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24. I had a bad feeling when he didn't declare yesterday.
It may be best for him and his family for him not to run, but I guess I'm selfish enough to wish he would. :(
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 06:15 PM
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28. I wish the Gore's vast peace, he's already working a presidential...
sized plate of vital issues before him, but I'm with you; he's just so knowledgeable :patriot:
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wayfareralibis Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 02:08 AM
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6. Her husband and brother are rich developers
They profit nicely from the policies of the Bush administration. Her brother is VP of General Growth Properties a huge shopping mall and "planned community" Huge tacky not environmentally conscious houses)development co which is expanding into South America (Venezuela Brazil) You can bet the environmental concerns only exist as long as they are allowed to build, build, build...Don't ya know conserving and belt tightening are only for "the little people".
It's no longer the "Democrats versus Republicans". It's the extremely rich versus the rest of us, and she is not one of the rest of us.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 02:18 AM
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8. Her statement wishing that protestors could just be arrested
as homeless people would be tends to confirm that. She's not one of the rest of us.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 02:34 AM
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11. Yes, investment bankers, as is the case with Feinstein's husband...
and circle of associates...Vichy Dem
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:22 AM
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13. My reaction is the same as it was last March when this happened.
Were they her constituants?
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:31 AM
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14. Anyone living in her district
is a constituent to be equally represented and listened to. If she KNEW the names and addresses of all the protesters that raises another disturbing question. Also the point is fair considering the RW imports whole acting troupes and DC aides to act like a district insurgence. Considering too that a declared opponent is part of this movement.

Yet given all that it shows how impolitic our "leaders" are at the wrong time and the wrong place with the wrong people in every opportunity and challenge to judgment. Even handedness is required for constituents and it should flow because of her nation-wide responsibilities to all Americans. All House Speakers are held to national account. Resign, and they will go on to the next office holder. I don't think the protesters are confused about where the constituent responsibilities lie but the lashing out seems to have confused the Speaker about "furrin" invaders and political challengers in the fall.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 11:51 AM
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21. It's also interesting that she doesn't consider the homelesst
to be her neighbors. I have four homeless neighbors that I see every day. They live here, in this neighborhood. Someday, we may be able to get them in doors but for today, they are here.

How privileged do you have to be to consider the homeless refuse that your lackeys the police will come and clean up for you?

Unfortunately, our mayor has pretty much the same attitude for all his politicking and window dressing.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 11:48 AM
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20. Of course they are. There may be a few people from across the Bay
but holy cow, the answer is yes.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:52 AM
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15. This is from March 18th...showing how long Code Pink has been trying to meet
Edited on Sat Oct-13-07 08:53 AM by KoKo01
with Nancy and finally felt that it was important to start the 'camp outs' at her house. The comment "You are not my constituents" back in March followed by this past weeks remarks about "homeless" reveals Nancy's thoughts about who she thinks she's serving as Speaker of the House and who she feels her "constituents" really are...which are "folks of her own kind," which give her a sense of comfort and entitlement.

She like many before her in power feel that a position of power allows one to be "above it all" while declaring that they are working "for all the people" they mean "all the people like me and mine" and the rest are those who get the crumbs from the table.

I had hoped she'd turn out to be different. But when I saw her speech at DEM convention in '04...I started to have some niggling worries...turns out my instinct wasn't off the mark.. Unfortunately her back ups of Hoyer and Emmanuel...are not much different...so what do we do?
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:55 AM
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17. yes, too long...
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 01:24 PM
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23. You're not my constituents! The Armenians are! n/t
Edited on Sat Oct-13-07 01:24 PM by seemslikeadream
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Cybergata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 03:11 PM
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26. Good One!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 05:07 PM
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27. heh...
:thumbsup:
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Zandor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 07:44 PM
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29. Code Panic should harass Republicans
They are part of a tiny share of Americans that want to immediately end all funding.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:01 PM
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30. well...and then there's that...
i'd like to see some street theater press/drama visited upon republicans no doubt, they just keep getting a free ride on & on & on
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sandyd921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:04 PM
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31. I've really changed my thinking about Cindy Sheehan
running against Pelosi. For a while I thought it not the best use of Cindy's time. The more I see Pelosi's refusal to even listen to the views of her own constituents and to connect with the sentiments of everyday people, the more I have come around on Cindy's candidacy.

Go Cindy Go! :yourock:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:16 AM
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33. Oh Nancy, we are not the instigators here, stand up to this miserable
regime before it is too late.

thank goodness for Code Pink.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 04:50 AM
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34. kick for Beth...
:kick:
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