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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 08:58 AM
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NYPD defiant over pepper spray Updated:Lawrence O'Donnell Video MUST WATCH!!!
 
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Lawrence O'Donnel Kicks ass on this video. Basically dares the Mayor and Police department to do something. Maybe we're starting to win here. h/t to Evergreen2 in the comments.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/09/26/1020233/-NYPD-defiant-over-pepper-spray-Updated:Lawrence-ODonnell-Video-MUST-WATCH!!!?via=siderec
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pam4water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 09:14 AM
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1. K&R
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 09:26 AM
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2. that was powerful-- rec'd
Wow. I'm shocked that aired on U.S. television.
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liberal from boston Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 10:29 AM
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5. Lawrence O'Donnell on NYPD actions on Wall Street Protestors

Saw this last night on his show--compelling viewing!!!! Mr. O'Donnell pointed out that it was a mostly a few superior officers in white shirts who initiated the violence, especailly pepper spraying the young women. Sadly, protestors kept asking "what are we doing wrong"? An investigation should be demanded by Mayor Bloomberg and results made public.
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 08:45 PM
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10. I was pleasantly shocked as well
I'd been calling the main stream newz media's "tip lines" for over a week, so
this came as a big rush of adrenalin for me. Made me smile real big ;-)
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 10:08 AM
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3. Word n/t
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 10:27 AM
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4. I believe this is the first "main stream" media person I have ever heard
Edited on Tue Sep-27-11 10:27 AM by G_j
address the systematic police abuse of 'left wing' demonstrators.

:applause:
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 11:00 AM
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6. I like this!
Too damned much "strong-arm" directive from on high. You KNOW this comes down from Bloomberg's office. He's got accomplices in those banks to defend. :grr:
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 12:39 PM
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9. I agree, Plucketeer this came from up top, the preponderance of white shirted police abuse
is a clue and the amazingly quick rush to pronounce the police actions as "appropriate," being another.

I have no doubt this abusive police behavior was instigated from the top down.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 08:57 PM
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11. Of course. The second richest man in NYC,
Behind only one of the Koch brothers, isn't going to allow HIS police department to let those protesters stay there much longer.

Wall Street is too important to our autocratic mayor and his wealthy friends. Mere citizens aren't important at all. It's not hard to predict that police brutality is inevitable.

The police have a well-deserved reputation for brutality even when they aren't serving as personal enforcers for the mayor and his cronies. This just assures them more than the usual amount of immunity.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 11:39 AM
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7. Real journalism!
Who'da think it!

:kick:
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 08:40 AM
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42. Loved it. Please keep it in the focus of the public until something is done!!
I hope Lawrence asks Bloomberg about this.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 12:33 PM
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8. Kicked and recommended, well done.
Thanks for the thread, kpete.:thumbsup:
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Prana69 Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 09:07 PM
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12. If it were junior officers behaving like this the NYPD could possibly ....
... make a claim of one or two officers using a little too much force, beyong their authority. The fact that this was senior officers in white shirts illustrates that this is EXACTLY the kind of behaviour and response that has been authorised from police command. This is not a once off behaviourial abberation - this is the culture of modern policing for the corporate state, and those senior officers are setting the example that it is expected junior officers will emulate.

White shirts are the new "Brown shirts" of the SA, Nazi Germany. It's just modern fascism.

P69
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 09:17 PM
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13. O'Donnel should keep it in the news until something is done. Hannity and O'Reilly will latch onto
something until someone gets fired. Our press needs to play hardball too!
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 09:25 PM
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14. I still think they were hoping to provoke a riot and use big force to clear
all of them out. I can't think of any other reason they penned those women in like that.
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captain jack Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 07:45 AM
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34. I agree. In order to put down violence, in some cases you must first create it.
I suspect that the NYPD is doing whatever it can do to create a situation that allows them to do so.
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 08:19 AM
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37. Yes, they hoped people would overreact
and then they could make mass arrests and close down the whole thing. It did not work.
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dembotoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 09:30 PM
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15. aw damn it --do we have to go back to the 60s and not in a good way
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 09:31 PM
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16. And stupidly, the cops think this sort of behavior . . .
Is a better way to resolve such protests than by applying patience and judgement. When any sensible person knows that they've just spent every ounce of credibility they had, and their relationships with the citizens will be fractious for months to come.

And New York has another huge black eye.

Sympathy over 9/11? Fuck off until you get rid of your rogue cops and your rogue pols.
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southmost Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 09:51 PM
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17. surprised to see this on tv
at all
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Remember Me Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 09:52 PM
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18. Wow, really powerful. n/t
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zentrum Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 09:55 PM
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19. CALL BLOOMBERG EVERY DAY
Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg
City Hall
New York, NY 10007
PHONE 311 (or 212-NEW-YORK outside NYC)

FAX (212) 312-0700

E-MAIL:
http://www.nyc.gov/html/mail/html/mayor.html

Send this to all your friends.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 05:42 AM
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29. email worked better for me than calling. n/t
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 08:30 AM
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40. I called
and told them I'm cancelling my trip to NYC until Bloomberg does something about his rogue cops.
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duhneece Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 08:38 AM
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41. I'm still on the phone with someone from the mayor's office
I sent an e-mail. The man on the phone is taking my statement...very nicely.

Thank you, thank you for the contact info.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 03:29 PM
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48. done and I will. thanks n/t
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 12:00 AM
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20. O'Donnell is on his game when he's angry especially about manipulative
liars & oppressive fascist assholes!.
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rapturedbyrobots Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 12:22 AM
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21. my favorite part
is when he points out that shock (not the anger mind you!) to the rodney king police brutality came from a position of middle class white privilege. similarly, this footage is not going 'shock' or enrage people who consider protesters getting abused by cops routine (which it sort of has become at this point). we need to change the script. videos of cops abusing and pepper spraying 'honest & respectable' people in suits would really shock the shit out of the apathetic middle class.
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rapturedbyrobots Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 12:23 AM
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22. my favorite part
is when he points out that shock (not the anger mind you!) to the rodney king police brutality came from a position of middle class white privilege. similarly, this footage is not going 'shock' or enrage people who consider protesters getting abused by cops routine (which it sort of has become at this point). we need to change the script. videos of cops abusing and pepper spraying 'honest & respectable' people in suits would really shock the shit out of the apathetic middle class.
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Blacksheep214 Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 12:41 AM
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23. Perhaps a little too much ass kissing after 9-11?
We put these people in this situation. All cops and security feel they can get away with shit canning our rights.

Book 'em Danno!
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HDPaulG Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 01:00 AM
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24. Fucking 'white shirt' pigs...
Who are you protecting?
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 01:39 AM
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25. Excellent report!
I wonder whether the attempted prevention by police of the videotaping of their use of excessive force might be considered obstruction of justice or, if a trial is held, suppression of evidence.

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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 03:12 AM
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26. O'Donnell's got it right, but I think it's worse in NYC....
.... as a consequence of Bloomberg. Arrogance and a conviction that he... and his apparatus... are above the law.

It's *exactly* the way he runs the school system.

Exactly.

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tcaudilllg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 06:37 AM
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33. Bring down Bloomberg?
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PatrynXX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 03:59 AM
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27. Not sure how he got that around the MSNBC censors
But then again he has said he doesn't need the job. So he's full willing to risk it. Embarrassed the fuck out of Brian Williams who had just hours before said it was the protesters fault for going outside the barricades Went to watch him yesterday to see if he'd say anything. Nope. Bye bye Brian. Rachel hadn't anything on that particular day. Wish he had a podcast. Think after Keith was fired I pretty much gave up hope on that channel and I end up turning it on for the heck of it with mom around and my jaw fell off my face and bounced out the door. Took alot of guts to do that. Happened in St Paul in 2008. It would seem in 2004 since the pepper spray idiot is involved in that. Don't support Anonymous really but yeah by all means expedite the guys info. They aren't threatening him with anything. Bout the only thing they've done right.
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dogmoma56 Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 05:26 AM
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28. just don't look like a Liberal with a camera next to a cop... you'll be fine...
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 05:49 AM
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30. It seems if you are a teabagger, you can spit on elected officials
bring guns to presidential rallies and act like jack booted thugs and beat up girls. But if you are a peaceful liberal protester you get beaten, tazzered or sprayed with mace.

There is something seriously wrong with this picture.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 11:35 AM
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45. Exactly - 1000% -- and you forgot "spit on members of Congress" ... !! Yikes!
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 06:33 AM
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31. This won't go away...
These protests will continue and grow, as We The People struggle to recover our nation.

The police officers who resort to violence and disrespect had best remember what happened during the LA riots of '92...
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tcaudilllg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 06:36 AM
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32. BRING DOWN THE DICTATOR
BRING DOWN KELLY
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hue Donating Member (571 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 07:58 AM
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35. thanks to msnbc & O'Donnell for this miracle piece!! n/t k&r
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malthaussen Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 07:59 AM
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36. Nice Outrage, but...
Not to knock Mr O'Donnel specifically, but he makes an important point: this will "go away" because the media will continue to ignore it. Which leads to the question, Mr O'Donnel: do you plan to keep after this story yourself, or just ignore it now that you've vented your spleen?

-- Mal
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FreeBillClinton Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 08:21 AM
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38. Finally someone on the air is saying this
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duhneece Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 08:24 AM
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39. Every city, county law enforcment need a community, citizen-based review committee
We need to know how many communities have such a committee, which ones are effective, how can we all demand an effective reviewing committee to provide oversight. We all need to know the laws about videotaping law enforcement.
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 08:41 AM
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43. as we have seen proven so many times
there are 2 Americas. One for the fat cats who they and their servants get away with everything ,and those who try to hold them accountable get sprayed.

I'm sure Mayor Bloomberg's office will appreciate your complaint at +1 (212) 788-1400
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blackspade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 09:00 AM
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44. An excellent commentary
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big lu Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 11:41 AM
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46. kicked
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 11:50 AM
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47. Okay ... if Bloomberg and Kelly aren't going to charge these cops ... then next step ...
Edited on Wed Sep-28-11 11:51 AM by defendandprotect
is to bring down Bloomberg and Kelly --

Certainly no one would accuse either of them of not being attentive enough to

what Banksters/Wall St. needs!!



And, of course, same thinking holds re Obama and Dems -- if they're not creating

the change we need, they should go --

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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 04:16 PM
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49. I got to watching this today....incredible.. thanks for posting..
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