Lawrence O'Donnell & Herman Cain Get Into a Heated Debate

[Grassy Knoll]

Run time: 05:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4ybm0VGgIg   Posted on YouTube: October 07, 2011 By YouTube Member: politicalarticles Views on YouTube: 71   Posted on DU: October 08, 2011 By DU Member: Grassy Knoll Views on DU: 4259

 

[FarLeftFist]

1. The GOP candidates could just easily be replaced with automated robots.

[bbinacan]

2. I'm not sure what Lawrence was implying

but this was something that he shouldn't have done. What in the hell was he thinking? Actually, I know and you know what he was saying. I'm disgusted by this!

[Enrique]

5. he was trying to make news

get Cain to say something that would define his campaign, maybe get Cain to lose his cool or whatever.

[bbinacan]

7. Well, that didn't work out well did it?n/t

[stlsaxman]

6. you're disgusted by what O'Donnell was saying?

unclear from your post...

:shrug:

[bbinacan]

8. See post 4

[FarLeftFist]

9. He was calling him out for lying in his book, stating he was in HS when he was in college.

I think he made his point.

[stockholmer]

19. no, you are wrong, the 2 events O'Donnell picked out were in 1955 & 1961, see my post at link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=622762&mesg_id=622814

[The Wielding Truth]

17. Caine had the chance to be involved and he chose not to.

By saying he was too young he slipped the responsibility to his father.He was not to young. He was "able" to be a leader then and he chose not to. He should have acknowledged that he - wished - he had been actively involved in college and - wished - he had joined the civil rights movement.He should have taken the choice on his own shoulders. That would have been okay,IMO. It would have been honest.

The Civil Rights Movement was in it's heaviest throws from 1955-1965.It would have been an amazing thing if Cain would have shown his concern and desire to have been involved. He chose not to. It was not his fathers choice.

He owes, as many of us do,our freedoms to the men and women who supported the activists who gave so much and fought for their rights.So many of us won by default the fruits of their labor.Yet those of us who did march or even cried and paid attention to the struggle supported the heroes. That is what he should have done. He had this opportunity to shine and be honest. He didn't choose to.

To me it's a small thing with maybe many reasons to support his decision but he did not give them as his reasons. He said his father had control because be was too young and he lied.It's a character thing.

But hey. Who's perfect. We know that. He doesn't have to lie to get our respect. It really works just the opposite.

[Enrique]

3. it took extraordinary courage to be in the CRM

so by definition theres going to be a lot of people that didnt participate. All blacks cant be extraordinarily courageous can they?

[bbinacan]

10. Good point. n/t

[XanaDUer]

22. No

But all African-Americans don't have to run for President, and write books about themselves where they lie and fudge the truth, either.

LO's point was made.

[bbinacan]

4. I just watched this again

and I'm even more pissed off. Lawrence basically called Cain a house tender at the Master's house.

[FarLeftFist]

11. When he says that then you can be pissed off, but he didn't.

He was proving Cain to be a liar. Cain said he was in HS and couldn't participate when he was actually in college. If this man is going to lead the nation I think it's good that we understand why it is he chose to not participate. We want to know if it was circumstance or ideology.

[spooked911]

12. No, he didn't. He just asked him why he wasn't involved in the civil rights protests

[liberal from boston]

23. He just asked him why he wasn't involved in civil rights protests

Lawrence actually quoted his book--BTW Mr. Cain gave the interview in Barnes & Noble. Cain now enjoys the benefits of the civil rights movement while at that time, stood by and let others take the mantle and fight. King died while marching with Memphis "union" garbage workers while today Mr. Cain stands against all unions & stated that OWS protestors do not want to work & should be protesting at WH & insults the intellect of African Americans by stating they are "brainwashed" by the Democratic Party.

[spooked911]

25. quite right, and it's amsuing how the right is freaking out over this

welcome to DU, btw

[spooked911]

13. I thought it was an interesting interview but I know conservatives are pissed off about it

they think O'Donnell dissed Cain.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/10/06/fireworks_msnbcs_lawrence_odonnell_hostile_interview_with_herman_cain.html
I'm no O'Donnell fan, but I didn't see anything really out of line here.

[cpwm17]

14. Lawrence O'Donnell was way out of line

That was totally unfair.

Is Lawrence O'Donnell going to ask all blacks whether they participated in the civil rights protests? Or will Lawrence O'Donnell ask all whites whether they have participated in the OWS protests?

Herman Cain did briefly mention in his book his lack of participation in the protests. He was just being honest.

[icarusxat]

16. He lied in his book about where he was at the time

The real fun will begin when Mitt has to explain that mormons believe that blacks were cursed to be black because they "sat on the fence" in the war in heaven before all of us were born. The best is yet to come.

[SemperEadem]

15. no republican should be of the mindset that

when they go on Lawrence's show that he's going to give them the kid glove treatment as if they were on hannity's show. if cain wants kid glove treatment, then he needs to keep his buffoonery on fux.

cain can dish it out but he can't take it... and that, in my book, is a punk. lawrence held his feet to the fire on a statement he willingly made. That is all this is.

[stockholmer]

18. O'Donnell is disgusting (subtle insinuation Cain=house negro) & wrong w/ dates (Parks was in 1955 &

Freedom Riders were in 1961, when Cain was first 9 years old(Rosa Parks) and then 15, still in high school. Yes, much occurred after that, but those 2, along with desegregating Little Rock High School(1957), Bull Connor fire hosing(spring 1963), and MLK Jr's "I Have a Dream" speech (late summer of 1963) all took place before Cain started college.

I do not support Cain, I think he would be a terrible POTUS, but this is over the top, pure 'Uncle Tom' slick slander.

[Quixote1818]

20. Regardless of what a couple of people thought here. I think this was a smack down!

Great job Lawrence! You exposed Cain for the liar that he was about his age during the civil rights movement and also that he is not one to rock the boat for a greater cause if he thinks it might impact his perfect little life. He doesn't have the qualities a president should have.

[CJCRANE]

21. It was a reasonable question. I also liked the question "did you choose to be straight?"

Cain didn't even answer that noe.

[mike dub]

24. O'Donnell should have grilled 5-deferments Dick like this

Only thing I can think of is why didn't guys like Lawrence O'Donnell grill Cheney, Bush, Rummy and the other Bu$hies about their deferments and cushy, state-side, Daddy-arranged Natl Guard assignments during the Vietnam War? Suddenly O'Donnell grows a pair when questioning Herman Cain?...thanks alot, O'Donnell. O'Donnell is way out of bounds here. To single in on one (black) man as to why he didn't participate in the civil rights movement is ludricrous. I sometimes enjoy and agree with O'Donnell's work, but here he has no idea what he's talking about.

Mike in NC

[ScottLand]

26. I don't think the Bu$hies gave anyone a chance to grill them

like this. How's he singling in on one man? He's asking a question about what was in Cain's book. If Cain aspires to lead the free world, he should expect to be taken through the ringer. He can have his bootlicking sweetness over at Faux News.

[Dr Rise]

27. Still didn't answer questions to satisfaction...

There is never enough time to ask enough questions to get to the bottom anything a Republican is being defensive about. Being defensive ALWAYS means you're hiding something. NEXT QUESTION....