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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:27 PM
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Michael Moore:"Cop Told Me Reason OWS Eviction Didn't Happen Is Bloomberg's Afraid Of Youtube!"
Edited on Fri Oct-14-11 10:30 PM by cal04
 
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Posted on DU: October 15, 2011
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http://thelastword.msnbc.msn.com/
From the show

http://thelastword.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/10/14/8329007-the-very-last-word
Michael Moore's gives a plea to the police and Lawrence talks about the show, after the show. Check out the new web-exclusive video.

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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:58 PM
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1. Thank God for cameras in phones, and for YouTube
Anything act see the light of day nowadays.
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razorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 09:39 AM
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25. Absolutely right. They have revolutionized the world. So, why do celebrities of all types
(entertainers, sports stars, politicians, etc.) still never learn? EVERYONE has a camera now. We have all known this since Rodney King. Yet, these morons will still act the fool in public, and be surprised when it show up on YouTube or TMZ. For instance, if you are a famous football player, and smack your girlfriend around in public, there will be someone there with a cellphone, and the incident will be online in ten minutes. Unfortunately, some of these witnesses seem to feel more obliged to film an incident and publish it before even calling the cops or trying to stop a crime in progress.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 11:01 PM
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2. Sousveillance
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 11:01 PM
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3. The removal of social issues like gay marriage or abortion from the OWS movement makes this..
Edited on Fri Oct-14-11 11:30 PM by Poll_Blind
...a very dangerous movement to corporatist elements in both the Democratic and Republican parties. Without being immediately able to turn to hot-button issues such as those I mentioned, it will be far more difficult to divide opinion, people. This is off something Michael Moore said during the interview and I think it's brilliance beyond brilliance.

PB
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 11:15 PM
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6. Totally agree.
Cultural 'wedge issues' have been used for at least 2 decades to divide Americans.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 11:36 PM
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8. Did anyone notice how much time the Republicans spent trying
to a pass an ABORTION BILL this week? Did you notice
where the Republicans and Tea Party are in the polls?
What is finally getting coverage and on TV pretty
Regular Basis this week? How about that poll that
indicates there much more support for the 99%ers than
Tea Party???

Call me cynical--IMO all that Abortion was the typical
move by Republicans to gin up the base. Some Republicans
(citizens) support the ideas of 005ers.

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DallasNE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 11:52 PM
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9. It Goes Back To Richard Nixon
And his Southern Strategy. It then went national following the Roe v. Wade decision during the Ford administration.
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PSzymeczek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 02:08 PM
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31. Nixon was still in office
when Roe v. Wade was decided (1973)
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 03:47 PM
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34. Divide and conquer has been around since forever. nt
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IthinkThereforeIAM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 03:50 AM
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17. Bingo...

... I couldn't put my finger on just what the, "they have no focus, they don't know why they are protesting". memes and rants from the right was made of. There it is! "The removal of social issues like gay marriage or abortion from the OWS movement"! They (mainstream media, far right PACs) have had their wedge taken from them concerning the OWS movement. It isn't black and white enough for them. I feel that also has much to do with the proof of right wing agent provocateurs and the word from the police departments, especially in Denver, that they noticed the original protesters had been supplanted/co-opted by those prone to/intending violence.
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rapturedbyrobots Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 04:29 AM
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19. it would also be dangerous for the leaders of OWS
If there were any. It was arguably attempting to move beyond the wedge social issues of race to the basic injustices that all working people suffer that got Dr. MLK Jr. assassinated. Read his later speeches, and notice the emphasis of uniting the working poor across racial lines. Also the message Malcolm X was hitting hard in his final years. They shot him too.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 07:46 PM
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41. Very important point -
Dr. MLK Jr. and particularly Malcolm X were killed when they started talking about class and folks were listening. They don't really care about folks having equal rights when it comes to sex or skin color, but man try to get economic equality and the fisticuffs come out... That is what they care about most and will do anything to protect.
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rugger1869 Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 03:13 PM
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33. Agree
Identity politics has fractured the left for 40 years. Now that the left and center are uniting, the right is shaking in their jackboots.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 04:40 PM
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37. I agree...
The super PR guys are groping to beat Hell...The turd has landed square in the middle of the 1%'s punch bowl. The truth is like raid on the KochRoaches.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 07:43 PM
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40. Absolutely -
it has to stay focused on economics so we can stay united. If TPTB manage to split us on social issues then we are right back to square one.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 11:04 PM
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4. It's good that he has some common sense.
Edited on Fri Oct-14-11 11:06 PM by anamandujano
I'd be afraid too.

I'm referring to Bloomberg of course.

(Only two edits to get it right, I hope.)
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 11:14 PM
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5. YAY! K&R!!! n/t
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Charronxyz Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 11:21 PM
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7. Great interview...
It's surprising this conversation is happening in America, the ruling class has lost control of the message, and if peoples perceptions change then fundamental political change will follow.
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The Vrude Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 11:55 PM
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10. This was great!
YouTube and the people have replaced the mainstream corporate press-titutes!
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micraphone Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 12:48 AM
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11. Totally agree
M$M fast becoming irrelevant (and ignored).
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 01:34 AM
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12. Excellent! Bravo!
:applause:
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 01:43 AM
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13. See why I get so angry when DUers
try to tear Mike Moore down? There was a guy on DU last week that wouldn't let up on the Michael Moore attacks. Mike's heart is always in the right place.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 04:03 AM
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18. Don't take anything that happens here seriously. Ever. Read, learn, become informed but don't...
...take anything that happens here with any level of seriousness.
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unionworks Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 05:41 PM
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39. i must defend
The honor of the heavily intoxicated. :-)
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 10:45 AM
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44. Pfft
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 04:55 PM
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38. He has been fighting for the common man since he was a kid.
Edited on Sat Oct-15-11 04:55 PM by unapatriciated
I have followed him since his first doc. Roger and Me. Hubby and I had the pleasure of hearing him speak in Nashville last week. His new book is great.
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 01:43 AM
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14. Flushed...
The corporate aristocracy should clearly understand that We the People will no longer tolerate the pathology of their disaster capitalism and unfettered greed.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 02:06 AM
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15. Who can argue with that? Excellent. nt
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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 02:25 AM
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16. Huge K&R
Michael is right about people getting out and participating. Hope his book sells 10 million copies - we can be sure he'll put the money to very good use.
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Mosaic Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 06:43 AM
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20. Excellent Commentary by Moore!
Thank you Dylan Ratigan for the proposed Amendment to end the dirty money in politics! Totally agree.

And we want a perp walk of Goldman and Chase's heads! Amen!
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 06:44 AM
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21. Moore hit on something that should be expanded
There are groups like this popping up all over the country

If 100 teabaggers had formed in Niles CNN would have been all over it
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 11:36 AM
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28. #OWS will overwhelm the media just as it has overwhelmed
NYC law enforcement and government.

Our consent is being withdrawn.
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 07:31 AM
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22. Haha, the revolution WILL be televised afterall. :) K & R
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civilisation Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 08:02 AM
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23. I does seem to be exponential growth,.
this is spreading so fast that the normal controls, used to silance this type of sentiment before it gets this loud, are irrelevant. I think this really shows, how well the corporate controlled media have been doing, in marginalizing and quashing this type of opinion,. there is just too much agreement that the 1% have, just plane and simple, gone too far! Unfortunately for them as Michael says in the clip, this does not look like any amount of smoothing over is going to silence the people this time,. perhaps if the rethugs had helped Obama he could have smoothed the banksters crimes over,. however now it looks like only real substantive change is going to work.

We have a chance now to update the political and economic systems in america and around the world. Many alternative systems for political organization as well as money creation have been conceived and analysed,. the options are available,. the will to make change seems to be ready as well. We can create an egalitarian peaceful america,. when enough people stand together for what is right.
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joeglow3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 08:33 AM
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24. Me: "Cop Told Me Bloomberg Likes 2 Penises In His Mouth At Once!"
This is a common tactic used by today's media all too often: claim "someone" told me this, so I am now clear to pass it off as fact. I would bet that is part of the reason (if not THE reason) for Bloomberg's decision, but I highly doubt this cop talked to Bloomberg or knows for a fact.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 12:43 PM
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29. Gee whiz - we all know that Bloomberg probably didn't talk to that cop that told Moore.
However, it could have been passed down, down, down - the ranks.

It doesn't take much to borrow on experience of workplaces and even academic arenas.

It works the same all over.

An alternative is that a group of white and blue shirts were speculating and a white shirt said it - out of the air and a white or blue shirt told Moore

An alternative is that Moore made it up.

Is it important enough to doubt what Moore said?

All levels of entities pass tidbits up and down the hierarchal ladder. People always want rationales and answers.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 12:26 PM
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45. Bloomberg knew about YouTube when he decided to evict.
What he didn't know about was the AFl-CIO support.That made it a confrontation with the grownups. That sent the potential arrests back into Brooklyn Bridge amounts.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 10:46 AM
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26. Excellent interview. Love his point about the rich having great lives before the Reagan revolution.
I am glad Michael makes that point whenever he speaks. The rich had great lives when we were kids and we didn't resent them because factory workers had good pay and benefits and there was shared prosperity.

Reagan said it was Morning in America and we didn't need to cut back on fossil fuel use and put in ugly solar panels and do that bothersome recycling and stuff Carter was talking about. It was Morning in America and America was great and didn't need any damn limits! And people bought that crap.

What they didn't realize is the biggest limitation Reagan would eliminate was the moral one about treating workers as people whose contributions to the success of their businesses should be rewarded along with the rewards that went to the owners of the companies.

And Reagan demonstrated that by firing air traffic controllers who were striking for better working conditions. It was Morning in America for union busting. Morning for stomping on that shared prosperity. Morning in America for letting the plutocracy grow and crush that damn New Deal.

(Of course the "America is Great and don't let Carter tell you different" messaging was running along with 90-point giant headlines in the corner of major newspapers about how long our hostages had been in captivity-- 312 Days, 313, 314... And yet none of those papers had daily giant tallies of how long Osama Bin Laden was at large after 9/11. Somehow those papers didn't taunt the Republican selected to be president by the Supreme Court in the same way they hounded Carter, the Democratic and democratically elected president.)

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Weird Liberal Head Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 11:07 AM
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27. EPIC LOL!!!
I may just have to make a Youtube video on this... ;)
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 01:51 PM
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30. Whatever works. n/t
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 03:12 PM
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32. ...and now thats it's global more eyes are on him. Feel the heat you bastard. n/t
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canuckledragger Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 04:09 PM
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35. K & R
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 04:23 PM
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36. and afraid they should be.
the rich, it's not for breakfast anymore. lol
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 09:07 PM
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42. We live in a different world than we did 20 years ago.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 09:43 PM
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43. Thanks for posting!!
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