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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 11:05 AM
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Brilliant!! Chess Master Garry Kasparov Explains Political Nature Of Oil
 
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JoeySoCal Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 11:56 AM
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1. One of the best things I've seen.
Using democracy as a poitical tool for personal gain. That sums it up. Concise.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 12:01 PM
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2. I'm so glad about the last line of the clip!
The one where Bill needles Chris about the level of sophistication of Chris's show. What a great dig coming on the heels of Stephanie Miller's jab earlier in the day. And Bill didn't take it back, either.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 12:09 PM
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3. K&R. Brave and brilliant man. No wonder he was chess grandmaster for so long.
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 12:25 PM
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4. Excellent! The collective diss to "our guys" by Bill & Tweety was uncalled for
I believe we did have some intelligent presidents/candidates.
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 12:59 PM
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5. But do these intelligent candidates speak to us as if we're intelligent? - n/t
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Think82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 03:24 PM
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16. Only one does: BIDEN
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 12:59 PM
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6. Ouch! The truth hurts.
They want high oil prices. Nothing else needs to be said.

It has nothing to do with democracy. But you knew that.


America was a hope for people in the oppressed world. Now it's just a country. And everyone is less for that.
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 01:01 PM
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7. Brilliant politics from a brilliant chess player
After all chess is a war game and Kasporav is the master of the game.

His interview with The New Yorker gives an excellent overview of his ideas. Kasporov is well aware that he's not going to be President. Worth reading if can spare an hour reading a good interview.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/10/01/071001fa_fact_remnick

It's a long read however all 12 pages are worth reading.

Kasparov is always recommended...
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 01:33 PM
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8. Glad I watched this! What an excellent clip, Bridgit! n/t
PB
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 10:46 PM
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20. cheers...
:toast:
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banjosareunderrated Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 02:03 PM
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9. He's such an amazing person
I love the editorial he wrote upon his retirement from chess. You can find the whole thing here. But what really stands out are these lines:

"My exact role in Russia is yet to be determined. I am excited by this new strategic battle, to be played out on a larger board. At the same time, I realize that this is no game, but a very real struggle for the future of my country. I am preparing for the fight of my life. When I look at my eight-year-old son, I know the stakes of this battle could not be higher.

Many well-off Russians are sending their children to foreign schools, far from the dangers created by our authoritarian leadership. Most of my compatriots don't have that option. I do, but I want my son to grow up in the country in which he was born. I don't want him to have to worry about military service in an illegal war or fear the repression of a dictatorship. I want my son to live in a free nation and to be proud of his country, and of his father.

My retirement from chess is not about running for president or any other higher office, although I am not prepared to rule anything out. It is about opposing our authoritarian regime and bringing positive change. There are millions like me in Russia who want a free press, rule of law and fair elections. My new job is to fight for those people and to fight for those things."

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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 03:06 PM
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15. Kasparov can become the Russian Jefferson, if he gets the opportunity
Edited on Sat Oct-20-07 03:07 PM by DrDebug
Reading Kasparov talk about Russia is like looking into a mirror, because what most don't realize is that the same thing has happened in Russia as in the United States (and quite a lot of other countries as well).

The only difference is that Putin has been more successful mainly because the economies of the major cities like Moscow and St Petersburg skyrocketed and the remaining depression and poverty of the rural areas is considered irrelevant from a political point of view and will never be reported in the foreign press either because the MSM never leaves Moscow. Add to that that Putin did not start wars during his reign, it obscured what has happened and that is that a small oligarch took over - many from the former KGB or the FSB - and added a flavor of mock democracy for the outside world. Just like the BFEE...


Don Putin
To understand today's Russia, read "The Godfather."
BY GARRY KASPAROV
Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:01 a.m. EDT

When Vladimir Putin took power in Russia in 2000, the burning question was: "Who is Putin?" It has now changed to: "What is the nature of Putin's Russia?" This regime has been remarkably consistent in its behavior, yet foreign leaders and the Western press still act surprised at Mr. Putin's total disregard for their opinions.

Again and again we hear cries of: "Doesn't Putin know how bad this looks?" When another prominent Russian journalist is murdered, when a businessman not friendly to the Kremlin is jailed, when a foreign company is pushed out of its Russian investment, when pro-democracy marchers are beaten by police, when gas and oil supplies are used as weapons, or when Russian weapons and missile technology are sold to terrorist sponsor states like Iran and Syria, what needs to be asked is what sort of government would continue such behavior. This Kremlin regime operates within a value system entirely different from that of the Western nations struggling to understand what is happening behind the medieval red walls.

Mr. Putin's government is unique in history. This Kremlin is part oligarchy, with a small, tightly connected gang of wealthy rulers. It is partly a feudal system, broken down into semi-autonomous fiefdoms in which payments are collected from the serfs, who have no rights. Over this there is a democratic coat of paint, just thick enough to gain entry into the G-8 and keep the oligarchy's money safe in Western banks.

But if you really wish to understand the Putin regime in depth, I can recommend some reading. No Karl Marx or Adam Smith. Nothing by Montesquieu or Machiavelli, although the author you are looking for is of Italian descent. But skip Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism," for now, and the entire political science section. Instead, go directly to the fiction department and take home everything you can find by Mario Puzo. If you are in a real hurry to become an expert on the Russian government, you may prefer the DVD section, where you can find Mr. Puzo's works on film. "The Godfather" trilogy is a good place to start, but do not leave out "The Last Don," "Omerta" and "The Sicilian."

The web of betrayals, the secrecy, the blurred lines between what is business, what is government, and what is criminal--it's all there in Mr. Puzo's books. A historian looks at the Kremlin today and sees elements of Mussolini's "corporate state," Latin American juntas and Mexico's pseudo-democratic PRI machine. A Puzo fan sees the Putin government more accurately: the strict hierarchy, the extortion, the intimidation, the code of secrecy and, above all, the mandate to keep the revenue flowing. In other words, a mafia.

(...)

http://opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110010398


One president is the head of the secret police and another president is the son of the head of the secret police. Coincidence?
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 02:08 PM
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10. K&R. Wasn't he brilliant?! Wow. Thanks for posting this...
And I thought that Tweety had an excellent point, that this courageous man was able to engage the audience on such a sophisticated level, and in a language which is foreign to him... And that this is something that we'd never get here.:-(
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 02:10 PM
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11. He's a Grandmaster, not a Master.
I know what ya mean, though. ;)
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 02:12 PM
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12. that is as the tag exists over at youtube...
:shrug: but i know what you mean :)
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 02:17 PM
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13. Mathews DID make a good point - why CAN'T *OUR* politicians speak to US at that level? (answer)
He was right - we're always being talked down to in talking points and slogans....

Mathews noticed - we all listened with interest and weren't bored.

But, seriously, WHY are politics like this in this country......?

BECAUSE OF FUCKING SHOWS LIKE HARDBALL WHERE EVERYONE IS SHOUTING OVER ONE ANOTHER INTERRUPTING ONE ANOTHER!
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Think82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 02:40 PM
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14. There is one candidate who does speak like this: Biden
Hopefully the Dems will smarten up in time and nominate the only straight-shooter in the race. Please look into Biden if you haven't already.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 03:39 PM
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17. "America has lost its credibility..."

isn't this working against the high-minded goals of the neocons?
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 08:14 PM
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19. I think Kasparov proved the neocons aren't so high-minded.
:blush:
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 05:59 PM
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18. K and R.
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NoGodsNoMasters Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 01:20 AM
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21. This guys' brilliant...
I knew about Putin coming down on the opposition, I had no idea it was him, this guy is REALLY impressive. Articulate, charming, and brave. Let's face it, nobody on the campaign trail in this country really has to worry about being sent to a detention center or having they're family killed, Putin's a cold motherfucker. This guys' got courage to take that on. Kudos to Kasparov! =)
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 02:48 AM
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22. My God, I've just witnessed brilliance once more in my life
I mean pure and total fucking brilliance that ranks up there with the time greats. Somewhere the great theologians are smiling upon us.
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Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:41 AM
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23. Wow. I guess that brain is good for more than chess.
He's able to look at the world as a whole and see relationships and consequences. Our leaders say: "Bad people there. Must bomb until no more bad people. Arrrgh. Grunt."
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 02:11 AM
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24. kick
Worth a watch, from last week.
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