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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 06:18 PM
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Real ID is Here.
 
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 06:31 PM
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1. I despise what this country is becoming
really. I want no part of it.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 07:24 PM
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6. And we let them...
copied from your sig line, seems appropriate. :(

"As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be most aware of change in the air -- however slight -- lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness."
-- Justice William O. Douglas

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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:08 PM
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11. thanks... yeah, I've had it as a sig line for years...
despite that though, we continue the downward spiral. :(
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 06:43 PM
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2. This is bullshit. The "real" terrorists have no problems coming up with
fake ID if they need to. This accomplishes nothing, except getting a step closer in being able to monitor American citizens more easily.

Did Germany require a National ID card when the Third Reich was rising to power?
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 07:31 PM
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7. Exactly "The "real" terrorists have no problems coming up with
fake ID if they need to..."
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 06:43 PM
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3. This is bullshit. The "real" terrorists have no problems coming up with
fake ID if they need to. This accomplishes nothing, except getting a step closer in being able to monitor American citizens more easily.

Did Germany require a National ID card when the Third Reich was rising to power?
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 06:59 PM
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4. How many Americans have attempted to hijack or generally
take down a plane in flight in the past 8 years??? None you say? There, that's all you need to know about their real agenda. The man behind the curtain truly has gone mad with power.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 07:33 PM
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8. Also those that enable the man behind the curtain...
all approved by Congress.
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 07:05 PM
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5. New licenses in the next 6 years ...
Edited on Sat Jan-12-08 07:06 PM by Jim__
These assholes are about to be swept out of office. Hopefully, their fascist ideas go with them.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 07:35 PM
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9. They always come back to haunt us, that is why accountability
is a major concern for me.

Congress approved this by a wide margin.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:01 PM
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10. Additional links on Real ID...
Real ID Act – A Backdoor National Identity System
http://www.aclu.tv/realid


http://www.eff.org/issues/real-id

http://www.realnightmare.org/


http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:h.r.00418:

"Note: Pursuant to H. Res. 151, the text of H.R. 418, as passed House, was appended as Division B to the end of H.R. 1268. Division B was further modified in conference. H.R. 1268 became P.L. 109-13 on 5/11/2005."



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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 03:32 PM
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12. U.S. Issues National ID Standards, Setting Stage for a
Showdown

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/12/us/12homeland.html?_r=1&ref=us&oref=slogin

"The federal government issued national standards on Friday that states would have to meet in order for driver’s licenses they issue to qualify as identification at airports and federal buildings, setting the stage for a confrontation with states that have voted not to cooperate.

Under a measure known as Real ID legislation, the states must comply by May 11, the third anniversary of the measure’s enactment, or obtain a waiver from the Department of Homeland Security...

Ms. Schaffer predicted that pressure from the airlines might force the federal government to reverse itself.

The airlines, in fact, are worried, because travelers with driver’s licenses from states that do not have a waiver would have to use a passport or a military ID, or face additional screening, including a pat-down...

Exactly how many states will decide not to apply for waivers is unclear. Arkansas, Idaho, Montana and others have voted against the program, which was a central recommendation of the Sept. 11 Commission..."



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