Why is Obama Winning So Many States??

[aaronbees]

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Interesting analysis from Cenk Uygur at The Young Turks, breaking down cost expenditures of the Obama and Clinton campaigns. Boils down to Clinton taking the establishment strategy and Obama taking the 50-state strategy route.

[parasim]

1. I love the Young Turks.

and I have to say, that watching this whole campaign season unfold on Brave New Films' site with Cenk, Robert Greenwald et al, has been an absolute blast.

[keep_it_real]

2. Good, interesting analysis

[Sonnenschein]

3. strategy

Have some good speech writers would be good for Hillary. Also her campaign has been too soft on Obama by allowing their words to be twisted again and again. Her campaign did not address why people like her or dislike her. People like her partly because of Bill. So she should emphasize Bill's accomplishment (Obama's Reagan comment gave her a good chance but her campaign did not cease it. When Obama accuse her of being divisive, she should have went on attack and wear her "divisiveness" not as a baggage, but as a badge of honor. She put herself on the line on our behalf. If she just smiled like Laura, she would not have attracted so much hatred from the right wing. She should have shamed Obama for implying that she is one of "the same old folks in Washington" who sit on status quo when Obama knows full well of the sweeping changes Clintons brought to Washington. She should emphasize on every stump speech that she has always proven that she can work with Republicans while Obama only hopes to. The fact that she won reelection with overwhelming majority in NY shows that Republican can vote for her if they get to know her. She should emphasis time and time ago that she voted for using force wisely and as a last resort as she said while casting her vote. She should emphasize that nobody would believe that we would be at war if Clintons were in the White House.

But so far she has run a bad and soft campaign, so she deserves to loose. Consultants are not substitutes for common sense.

[MindMatter]

5. This really is a watershed moment.

I don't know where Obama will take us. I'm a little scared about that. But I know where the DLC types have taken us and it isn't good.

Howard Dean was right. Obama was right.

When you base your whole worldview on a faulty premise (the establishment way of thinking about these elections, for example) you can never really win.

It has been a long time coming, but I'm beginning to believe that the generation of Democrats as Junior Republicans is coming to an end, and the abruptness of this change is really staggering.

I am so proud of the young people supporting Obama. I'm mid-50s. My generation has really given you a raw deal. We have screwed up everything with our narcissistic self-gratification and endless consumption. The world we are turning over to you really sucks in a lot of ways. This is the first real chance you have had to take matters into your own hands. Time for a new generation of leaders.

The outgoing generation doesn't deserve any more chances.

[RBInMaine]

7. Problems with your analysis and suggestions.

Part of the reason Hillary is having her problems is that she and Bill went negative on Obama going into South Carolina. This really aggravated African Americans and swung them firmly away from Hillary, and MANY Dems, regardless of race or other such factors, also became pretty darn upset with Bill. It is VERY risky for Hillary to go negative at this point because it makes her look desperate and reinforces the very negative feelings that so many people already have about her. If she goes on and on talking about how great things were during Bill's years as Prez, she reminds everyone about the past and that she is fixture of the past at a time when people want change for the FUTURE. It also reinforces how many people feel that she is running as a sort of co-President on Bill's coattails. That is a bigtime turn-off. The only hope Hillary has now that Obama has so much momentum is to stay POSITIVE and tout her experience, her goals for the FUTURE (especially economic goals), and to try to be fresh and uplifting. She needs to try to secure her ever-eroding base among women, Latinos, older voters, and working class voters.
But that's an uphill climb with Obama having more money and momentum, because as her base gets to know him better, they like him and feel evermore comfortable with him. (In Virginia today he cut into her base of support BIGTIME.) What Obama needs to do is to firm up his base of men, younger voters, Africqan Americans, more affluent Dems, and independents who can vote in Dem primaries, and continue to cut into her base. He needs to do this by focusing specifically on his economic and healthcare plans in a populist way. But he also needs to mix in that inspiring rhetoric and language because this election is not just about a resume'. It is also about vision, inspiration, and a hunger to believe in a new leader again. (Much like the JFK and RFK days.) This also is where Hillary so sorely lacks. Not sure if she can overcome it. I caucused for Obama in Maine where he blew her away. If she is able to turn it around and get nominated, I'll support her. She's very smart and capable. But Obama is far more inspiring, and he does not have the negative baggage which Hillary has that scares the crap out of me going into the general election. The R's are hoping like hell that she wins because they WANT her to rally their base, and she WOULD. Not good ! We need a winner. Obama does better in the general election. WE MUST WIN !!! So I say GO OBAMA !!!

[Sonnenschein]

10. negative

Bill did the right thing for attacking Obama. But it was a mistake to retreat and allow the Obama surrogates to twist his words and also Hillary's comments about King. They said nothing wrong. People who twisted their words are the real racists. It's the same thing like Kerry allowed the swiftboating by not responding to it forcefully.

It must be embarrassing for Clintons to lose to a new kid on the block who stole a few pages from Clintons playbook (hope and change), a few pages from Kennedy's (empty rhetoric), a few pages from Reagan (blind optimisms) and few pages from Karl Rove (twisting and twisting). Obama is a very talented politician.

[ihavenobias]

12. Ridiculous

"Empty rhetoric" and "blind optimism"? I guess that's better than baseless opinions.

At any rate, the most absurd charge against Obama is that there is no substance behind his words, as I already explained here: http://journals.democraticunderground.com/ihavenobias/3

[Sonnenschein]

14. Change is about experience

Change is not about future. Can anybody turn around a losing company by appointing an unexperienced CEO? It's amazing that people actually buy Obama's rethoric. Clintons already proved they can change and they can work with Republicans while Obama only hopes to. People don't dislike the idea of co-presidency. Who does not want to buy one get one free?

[izquierdista]

20. Work with? Don't you mean cave in?

I'd be glad to vote for Hillary,.....If I had some UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE that I got promised 16 years ago.

No tickee, no votee.

[calmblueocean]

13. Great post.

You hit the nail on the head. Hillary had multiple opportunities to take down Barack Obama, and yet never used them. I don't know why. But I will say that I'm glad her weakness as a campaigner was exposed before the general election. We need someone who knows how to campaign, and Hillary has shown she doesn't.

[jgraz]

4. Yet another reason to back Obama

Cuz it makes Howard Dean look good, and it make Rahm and the DLC look like idiots.

[aaronbees]

23. Yep, I sure am tired....

of the anti-50 states mentality. I think the Young Turks analysis here is spot on.

And here's to you, Howard Dean. :D He's a big reason we're finding new Democratic voters this year, I do believe.

[DinahMoeHum]

6. "50-State Strategy", Baby!

Seems to me that the Obama campaign really took this strategy to heart - and the Clinton campaign has only paid it lip service. That's why last Tuesday, I voted for Obama in the NY primary.

:kick::kick:

[RazBerryBeret]

8. Fascinating information...

the Young Turks are awesome!

[lovuian]

9. Because the people are voting for him

I went to the Obama rally in St Louis

He's great speaker

[jasonkrueger]

11. I think it's mainly due to his opposition to the Iraq war

Obama and Clinton are pretty much the same candidate if you substract her Iraq war.

[Cha]

15. That's funny..I don't think they'd

be the same candidate at all..but the War On Iraq was huge and started me and a lot of others here in New York wishing we had never heard of hilary clinton.

[Sonnenschein]

16. War

That's why she should emphasis time and time ago that she voted for using force wisely and as a last resort as she said while casting her vote. She should emphasize that nobody would believe that we would be at war if Clintons were in the White House.

[pingzing58]

17. He's a smooth talking politician. He can talk the talk but can he walk the walk?

[ihavenobias]

18. Do you mean

can he vote the right way on the Kyle Lieberman amendment (to help ensure Bush doesn't start a war with Iran)? Or do you mean can he vote the right way on awful bankruptcy bills that hurt the average person? Or do you mean can he push for campaign finance reform?

Oh wait I forgot, he already did *all three* in the Senate. Remind me, which other presidential candidate can claim these three (critical) things?

[pingzing58]

19. Yes but how many Senate votes did he get on his side? Will he be able to bring onboard

the DLC dems and Neo-Con repugs? Or will the Senate and House all of a sudden find the votes to overturn the pres vetos?

[ihavenobias]

21. Considering the amazingly broad demographic he's currently appealing to

I'd say his claim that he'll bring the government together shouldn't be called into question, at least not at this point. He should be an incredibly popular, and therefore powerful president.

[pingzing58]

22. Agreed.