Richard Dawkins owns Liberty University students

[Clintonista2]

Run time: 08:53 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiayuN2IcT0   Posted on YouTube: November 14, 2006 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: February 13, 2008 By DU Member: Clintonista2 Views on DU: 978

 
Liberty University students try to match wits with Richard Dawkins... and fail.

[YOY]

1. Why even bother debating with them

You don't debate with people who say "2 + 2 = Duck" as if they have a different opinion. You call them idiots and tell them to f*** off. Especially so, when the methodology used is a simple jerking about of words and semantics!

Richard has far more patience than I.

[MercutioATC]

2. Hell most have frozen...I just recommended a Lirwin post.

Seriously, excellent video. Reading Dawkins a couple of years ago completely changed the way I thought about theism.

[Clintonista2]

4. LOL I guess miracles DO happen! Thanks for the rec!

:rofl:

[Ishoutandscream2]

10. Reading Dawkins' book did the same to me, too

Opened my mind considerably. A fantastic work.

[I work for workers]

3. Yeah, but they will get the last laugh as he burns in hell.

:sarcasm: , obviously.

[zonmoy]

6. the ultimate proof of the diabolical true nature of god.

[screembloodymurder]

5. I thought the kid posed a very good question.

Dawkins' assertion that it's more difficult to accept creation is a matter of faith. Until science has solved the last question, I'll hold on to my beliefs.

[ihavenobias]

7. I disagree 100%

The last kid's question reminds me of a child defending the existence of his invisible friend by insisting in various ways that every other rule of reality should be thrown out for *just this one* instance.

IMO, an interesting starting place for a debate is to assume that there really was an intelligent Creator (something I don't agree with, but follow me here). For sake of argument I'll agree that there was. But then someone needs to explain why I (or anyone else) should believe that He/She/It is benevolent as opposed to malevolent or even relatively indifferent toward man, the earth, the universe, etc.

I'm MUCH more willing to accept the idea of a *relatively* indifferent or at least non-benevolent Creator. In fact, if there IS any sort of evidence that a creator exists, IMO that evidence points to anything but a super friendly entity. Why? Because of all the pain and suffering obviously.

Yes, this is where someone chimes in and says "it's a test" or "God works in mysterious ways" but I find those arguments to be incredibly unsatisfying, convenient and ultimately ridiculous. As if God couldn't have put a cap on human suffering. I mean really, consider the idea for a moment.

What if God put a cap on human suffering so that torture, rape, molestation (and disease) would be things no human would ever even think of doing (the thought simply wouldn't exist and so it would never happen). Quick murder, suicide, accidental death, death by old age, etc. would all still exist. People could still have awful family and personal relationships, could still be depressed, angry, heartbroken, grief-stricken, etc.

Does anyone HONESTLY think that with this cap on suffering that people would be deprived of the "privilege" of MORE suffering? Does having torture, rape and molestation exist somehow give us a great gift we should appreciate because we value "free will"? No thanks. If I designed a living being I'd allow for plenty of free will *within reason*. Anything more would prove me to be a sadist or a poor creator IMO.

PS---No Parent would make their kids suffer for enternity, *regardless of the circumstances*. At least no *good* parent would.

[CherylK]

9. Wow!

I never thought about it that way before. I will have to think about it some more.

[FloridaJudy]

12. Check out Episode One: "Mr. Deity and the Evil"

Of "Mr. Deity", one of the funniest series on the net.

http://www.mrdeity.com/

This explains a lot. I guess we should be grateful that we can't harm each other with merely our thoughts.

[MercutioATC]

13. It all boils down to the 3 most important words in the English language:

"I don't know"

How did the universe originate? I don't know.

...and "God did it" is just another way of saying "I don't know"

[whistle]

8. This is why Richard Dawkins is so brilliant

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-288880082094621143

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11. More Richard Dawkins here

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9002284641446868316&q=Richard+Dawkins&total=2513&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=3