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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:57 PM
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Breaking Down Charles Barkley Speaking The Truth About Republicans
 
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PS---You can always watch the Show Live 3-5 pm ET, with a Rolling Post Game 5-7 pm daily Monday-Friday at www.theyoungturks.com The RPG often contains political talk but also many non-political topics to lighten things up (and yes, that audio may not necessarily be work-safe).

Also, if you can't watch live, the 3-5pm portion of the show (politics) streams the rest of the day, all day right after the Post Game Show ends leading up to the initial show at 3pm.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:13 PM
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1. I love Charles Barkley
and would love to see him become the governor of Alabama!
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muyojoe Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:41 PM
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15. I LIVE IN ALABAMA
And that would be awesome. Allot of rednecks would blow a gasket, it would be funny.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:49 PM
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17. For that reason alone
I hope we will see Governor Charles Barkley!
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:16 PM
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2. Charles is Alright with Me
:evilgrin:
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:18 PM
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3. My Rant on Conservative Republican Hypocrisy
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/ihavenobias/5

Why don't those in favor of banning "gay marriage" (because it's supposedly a threat to marriage in general) ever talk about banning divorce or making adultery a felony (both absurd ideas IMO)? You know, trying to stop things that actually *might* be considered real threats to marriage and keeping families together.

Granted, the answer to me is obvious. Clearly it's because doing those things might actually *effect* them in some way, unlike marriage equality. There are far too many hypocrites in that regard. How many fundamentalists will ever even be in the position to have an abortion to begin with? Cross all of the men off of that list, and all of the older people that are past child-bearing age. Not to mention the fact that many of them don't use/believe in contraception (and WANT to have lots of kids and or have kids at a young age), meaning they don't have to face an unintentional/accidental pregnancy.

By the way, here's a good article by Christina Page on why family planning IS family values: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cristina-page/family-planning-is-family_b_77694.html

At any rate, these hypocrites LOVE to embrace issues which generally require no real sacrifice on their part. Instead of working on practical and real ways to reduce the number of unintended pregnancies (comprehensive sex education, free access to birth control, general education/after school programs, etc.), they put a "LIFE" sticker over their mouths and stand in front of a Planned Parenthood for a few hours(to make *themselves* feel better).

That's not even getting into the fact that so many conservatives that are supposedly all for "family values" are engaged in all sorts of mischievous (and or hidden, which makes it mischievous even if it'd be normal otherwise) sexual behavior. Cliff Schecter of www.BraveNewFilms.org even does what is almost a weekly segment on this topic called Republican Sexcapades, where he highlights (often with humor but also disgust) the most recent examples of Republican "Values" hypocrisy. Here's a good example that also explains the top 10 searches at the absurd www.conservapedia.com (can you believe it?) about 9 minutes in: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sfINL3QSWg&feature=related

In closing, yes, there is obviously hypocrisy in BOTH parties and there are sex scandals and such on the Democratic side of the aisle too. The difference is, the Democrats don't run on "family values" and dupe millions and millions of people to vote against their own interests just to support wedge issues that *shouldn't even be political issues* in the first place.
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CherylK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:22 PM
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4. Great rant and great links!
I saw this before and it's fantastic. Republican Sexcapades are so funny, perfect for sending to conservative friends. :)
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:49 PM
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5. K&R nt
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CherylK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:42 PM
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6. Over 300 views so far and there are only 4 recs?
this deserves to be on the greatest page!
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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:44 PM
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7. Love Sir Charles but...
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 11:46 PM by jimlup
I disagree with the analysis. Blitzer and the mainstream freak out 'cause you can't say that about republicans but the converse wouldn't have drawn a followup question. Blitzer wouldn't have defended "democrates" or "liberals" with the same fervor.

We all know this is true, but we need to recognize it when it happens. It's NOT "50/50" in the mainstream media. It's "all the benifit of the doubt for the conservatives".
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:27 AM
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8. TYT don't disagree with what you're saying actually
I know this because I watch the show every day and know Cenk's more complicated thoughts on these issues (obviously you can only get so much out of a 7 minute clip). Besides which, even in that clip he's basically saying that the media gives equal treatment to good and crazy ideas alike (not that the media treat Democrats as well as they treat Republicans, big difference).

For example, if the vast majority of scientists believe in man-made global warming, they'll bring on one scientist and one contrarian (funded by Exxon Mobil) and present them to the audience as if the two positions were equally valid, aka 50/50.

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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:59 AM
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9. Yeah, fair enough
I realized that they were just talking and were not presenting their detailed political analysis but mearly musing about things. And I agree, the msn plays a 50/50 game, but always to the favor of the remarkably weak conservative position.

As I'm sure they know. The impression that they probably didn't mean to give was the 50/50 game was essentially random but we know it isn't. It tilts the playing field towards the right...

Thanks for the clip! Enjoyed it.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:04 AM
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10. That's not what Cenk was saying.
He said that CNN wants an even split - between absolute crazies and average rationality. That is, CNN heavily favors the crazy. In their scale, the "middle" isn't between two extremes, it's between one batshit extreme, and the middle ground between that and another batshit extreme
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ForeignSpectator Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:30 AM
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11. but only IF there is rationality on the show, otherwise it's 100% crazy...
giving the batshit crazy a platform is bad enough but elevating it to such a high ground of being EQUALLY valid as the rational position is beyond irresponsible.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 10:35 AM
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12. Well, that ends up being the de facto situation
because many of the current conservative positions just happen to be "bat shit crazy".
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:34 PM
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13. Wow, that was a great clip, Rec'd (n/t)
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DirtyDawg Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:33 PM
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14. I'm not sure how to take Charles...
...it wasn't that long ago when he told his momma that he was (conservative/Republican/supported Bush - one or all of these) and when she commented that 'they were just for rich people, he exclaimed, 'But Momma, I AM rich'. It was a funny line but certainly doesn't match his current position.

And if he thinks he can win a statewide election in Alabama in the next decade or two, he's not as smart as he thinks he is. As information, Alabama and Georgia are the only two states in the 'Big Tuesday' bunch where more Republicans voted in their primaries than Democrats. Those two states are doomed when it comes to Democratic leadership - plus if you're worth a damn as a Dem in Alabama they throw you in jail on trumped up charges...and we know Charles has done something - or will have done something - that they could use.
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muyojoe Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:43 PM
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16. WHEN I LIKE CENK
I like Cenk. He's good. On the flip side, the democrats (as a whole) have never been so far left that I didn't vote for them. Al was probably the most liberal nominee I know they've had since I could vote and I voted for him.
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