Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Chris Mat[t]hews Rightfully Challenges Obama Supporter

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Political Videos Donate to DU
 
libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:35 PM
Original message
Chris Mat[t]hews Rightfully Challenges Obama Supporter
 
Run time: 07:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFXxQJWkH3k
 
Posted on YouTube: February 20, 2008
By YouTube Member:
Views on YouTube: 0
 
Posted on DU: February 21, 2008
By DU Member: libbygurl
Views on DU: 1353
 
A good comparison of certain supporters of Clinton and Obama.

Is the media finally starting to give Obama the much-needed scrutiny that has been missing all these months?

Get ready for the (erstwhile deserved) negatives about Tweety from O supporters for this revealing clip. Also note how KO shows his bias so clearly at the end.

Go, Hillary! Go, Stephanie Tubbs Jones! (not 'Johnson', as Tweety said!)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
griffi94 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:43 PM
Response to Original message
1. poor kirk
i voted for him for mayor...and when he ran for texas attorney general
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
XtraProudDem Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:45 PM
Response to Original message
2. This wasn't "Hardball"
Matthews acted like an ass. He could have at least asked the Clinton supporter the same question. He was just trying to make the story about him and his "gotcha" moments, as usual.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ernestv Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:14 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. Pay Attention...
Weren't you paying attention... she did name HRC's accomplishments... and was ready to give more... some people are just obviously blinded by slickness...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
XtraProudDem Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 12:03 AM
Response to Reply #3
7. Nice.
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 12:04 AM by XtraProudDem
"Blinded by slickness."

That's not condescending or anything.

See ya.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:21 PM
Response to Original message
4. Tweety is a dick
And for your information Senator Kirk Watson is a well respected Senator in Texas. Which I don't think you need to be attacking as well. You're sure not going to make any friends in Texas like that. Politics of self destruction are getting really tired.

Kirk has already owned up to being flustered:
MSNBC and Me
February 20, 2008

So . . . That really happened.

On Tuesday night, after an important and historic victory in the Wisconsin Presidential Primary by Senator Barack Obama, I appeared on the MSNBC post-election program. "Hardball" host Chris Matthews (who is, it turns out, as ferocious as they say), began grilling me on Senator Obama’s legislative record.

And my mind went blank. I expected to be asked about the primary that night, or the big one coming up in Texas on March 4, or just about anything else in the news. When the subject changed so emphatically, I reached for information that millions of my fellow Obama supporters could recite by heart, and I couldn’t summon it.

My most unfortunate gaffe is not, in any way, a comment on Senator Obama, his substantial record, or the great opportunity we all share to elect him President of the United States.

Had I not lost my mind, here are the accomplishments I would have mentioned:

* Senator Obama’s fight for universal children’s health care in Illinois.
* His success bringing Republicans and Democrats together (a huge selling point for me in general) on bills such as the one in Illinois requiring police interrogations and confessions to be videotaped.
* His leadership on ethics reform in Washington (the bill that lobbyists and special interests are complaining about right now has his name on it).
* His bill to make the federal budget far more transparent and accessible to Americans via the Internet – we could use that openness in Texas.
* And his vital work with Republicans to lock down nuclear weapons around the world.

Of course, it would have helped to remember all of this last night. I encourage anyone who wants to know more (especially Mr. Matthews) to log onto texas.barackobama.com.


I applaud Kirk Watson for dusting himself after his fall, owning up to his "dear in the headlights moment", and then getting right back up and rolling up his sleeves and getting back to work. That's what we do in Texas.

:applause:

Sonia
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ernestv Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:00 AM
Response to Reply #4
12. Let's Compare...
I'm not going to give you Obama's record/accomplishment because you can look it up for yourself, but it's obvious Clinton is the more experienced. So let's take a look at what EXACTLY her experience IS, because it's being distorted in the media. Some pundits claim she has "little" experience. This is simply nonfactual, so I decided to list some of her many accomplishments in her life.

-Her first cause was children, fighting abuse, and chairing the Children's Defense Fund.

-She began her career as a lawyer after graduating from Yale Law School in 1973.
following her career as a Congressional legal counsel; she was named the first female partner at -Rose Law Firm in 1979 and was listed as one of the one hundred most influential lawyers in America in 1988 and 1991.

-During 1974 she was a member of the Nixon impeachment inquiry staff in Washington D.C., advising the House Committee on the Judiciary during the Watergate scandal. She helped research procedures of impeachment and the historical grounds and standards for impeachment.

-Hillary co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, a state-level alliance with the Children's Defense Fund, in 1977.

-In late 1977, President Jimmy Carter appointed her to the board of directors of the Legal Services Corporation.

-She was the First Lady of Arkansas from 1979 to 1981 and 1983 to 1992, and was active in a number of organizations concerned with the welfare of children, and was on the board of Wal-Mart and several other corporate boards.

-Bill Clinton appointed her chair of the Rural Health Advisory Committee where she successfully obtained federal funds to expand medical facilities in Arkansas' poorest areas without affecting doctors' fees.

-One of the most important initiatives of the entire Clinton governorship, she fought a prolonged but ultimately successful battle against the Arkansas Education Association to put mandatory teacher testing as well as state standards for curriculum and classroom size in place.

-She introduced Arkansas' Home Instruction Program for Preschool Youth in 1985, a program that helps parents work with their children in preschool preparedness and literacy.

-As First Lady of the United States she took a very prominent role in public policy.

-She was the initial first lady to hold a post-graduate degree and to have her own professional career up to the time of entering the White House. She was also the initial first lady to take up an office in the West Wing of the White House.

-She fought hard for Universal Health Care as First Lady, although it wasn't successful, it's something she learned from.

-She visited over 80 countries as First Lady giving important speeches, about such controversial topics as human rights/women's rights in China.

-Her major initiative, the Clinton Health Care Plan, failed to gain approval by the Congress in 1994, but in 1997 she helped establish the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) and the Adoption and Safe Families Act.

-As a Senator and after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, Hillary worked with her colleagues to secure the funds New York needed to recover and rebuild.

-She fought to provide compensation to the families of the victims, grants for hard-hit small businesses, and health care for front line workers at Ground Zero.

-She is the first New Yorker ever to serve on the Senate Armed Services Committee.

-She has visited troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and in countless other locations, truly understanding the challenges facing our troops.

-Hillary passed legislation to track the health status of our troops so that conditions like Gulf War Syndrome would no longer be misdiagnosed.


-She is an original sponsor of legislation that expanded health benefits to members of the National Guard and Reserves and has been a strong critic of the Administration's handling of Iraq.

-She has introduced legislation to tie Congressional salary increases to an increase in the minimum wage.

-She has supported a variety of middle-class tax cuts, including marriage penalty relief, property tax relief, and reduction in the Alternative Minimum Tax, and supports fiscally responsible pay-as-you-go budget rules.

-She helped pass legislation that encouraged investment to create jobs in struggling communities through the Renewal Communities program.

-She authored legislation that has been enacted to improve quality and lower the cost of prescription drugs and to protect our food supply from bioterrorism.

-She sponsored legislation to increase America's commitment to fighting the global HIV/AIDS crisis.

-She has lead the fight for the expanded use of information technology in the health care system to decrease administrative costs, lower premiums, and reduce medical errors.

-Clinton has successfully worked to ensure the safety of prescription drugs for children, with legislation now included in the Best Pharmaceuticals for Children Act.

-She has also proposed expanding access to child care.

-She has passed legislation that will bring more qualified teachers into classrooms and more outstanding principals to lead our schools.

-Hillary is one of the original cosponsors of the Prevention First Act to increase access to family planning.

-She fought with the Bush Administration and ensured that Plan B, an emergency contraceptive, will be available to millions of American women and will reduce the need for abortions.

-She introduced the Count Every Vote Act of 2005 to ensure better protection of votes and to ensure that every vote is counted.

-When Senator Clinton said she has been fighting for causes important to her for 35 yrs, she is VERY accurate. Her accomplishments are staggering. Those who are questioning her accomplishments, and the things she has fought for, should take a little history lesson.

CHRIS MCLEOD
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ACanadianLiberal Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:52 PM
Response to Original message
5. In the GE debate, I bet McCain will ask Obama the same question
face to face. Imagine what is going to happen. Again, I am a Gore supporter, I have no problem with either Mrs. Clinton or Mr. Obama. Dear Obama supporters, Chris Matthews is not the problem, Obama is. What do you expect from Matthews? Chanting "HOPE & CHANGE & YES WE CAN" around and through the entire segment?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
XtraProudDem Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 12:13 AM
Response to Reply #5
8. What?
That's a ridiculous argument. Obama himself will have no trouble answering that question.

What do I expect from Matthews? I expect him to stay on topic without changing the subject abruptly in order to put the spotlight on himself. I also expect him to be polite to his guests during election coverage. This was NOT HARDBALL, this was election coverage.

I don't dislike Chris Matthews as much as a lot of others on DU, but I do think he was ugly to his guest last night.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 12:29 AM
Response to Reply #5
9. did you not hear Brent Budowsky on Randi Rhodes this pm?
Obama has some impressive records that both Clinton and McCain know about.
Of course, Hillary would distort the record.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 12:34 AM
Response to Reply #5
10. You must be joking. Matthews is a known right wing tool. What he did was a clear ambush.
He knows better than to try that with McCain. His masters would fire him in a second.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 12:36 AM
Response to Reply #5
11. It would be funny to see McCain try to get the best of Obama. If you were paying attention
dip sh$% Matthews didn't ask Obama the question. And oh yes welcome back to DU. We need more here to spread divisiveness.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mckara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:49 PM
Response to Original message
6. Tweety Can Be a Jerk Sometimes, But...
His attack helps motivate Obama supporters to learn about their candidate. I found the following:

Editor of Harvard Law Review
Civil rights attorney upon graduating magna cum laude from Harvard
Taught Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago
Expanded Kidcare (health insurance for an additional 20,000 Illinois children Illinois Senate
Welfare reform (a bipartisan bill passed in Republican controlled senate) Illinois Senate
Toughest Ethics Reform in 25 years Illinois Senate
Reform of Death Penalty System Illinois Senate
Videotaping of police interrogations Illinois Senate
Enough judgment to see that Iraq was an epic mistake
Obama nuclear nonproliferation bill
Worked to stop the Bankruptcy Bill
Coburn-Obama Transparency Act
Obama is known for having unquestionable ethics and integrity
He is on the senate committees for foreign relations; homeland security; veterans affairs

Now ask yourself: How much experience did Abraham Lincoln have before becoming president?

Lincoln began his political career in 1832, at age 23, with an unsuccessful campaign for the Illinois General Assembly, as a member of the Whig Party. The centerpiece of his platform was the undertaking of navigational improvements on the Sangamon River. He believed that this would attract steamboat traffic, which would allow the sparsely populated, poorer areas along the river to flourish.

He was elected captain of an Illinois militia company drawn from New Salem during the Black Hawk War, and later wrote that he had not had "any such success in life which gave him so much satisfaction."

For several months, Lincoln ran a small store in New Salem.

In 1834, he won election to the state legislature, and, after coming across the Commentaries on the Laws of England, began to teach himself law. Admitted to the bar in 1837, he moved to Springfield, Illinois, that same year and began to practice law with John T. Stuart. With a reputation as a formidable adversary during cross-examinations and in his closing arguments, Lincoln became one of the most respected and successful lawyers in Illinois and grew steadily more prosperous.

He served four successive terms in the Illinois House of Representatives as a representative from Sangamon County, and became a leader of the Illinois Whig party. In 1837, he made his first protest against slavery in the Illinois House, stating that the institution was "founded on both injustice and bad policy." It was also in this same year that Lincoln met Joshua Fry Speed, who would become his most intimate friend.

Lincoln wrote a series of anonymous letters, published in 1842 in the Sangamon Journal, mocking State Auditor and prominent Democrat James Shields. Two years later, Lincoln entered law practice with William Herndon, a fellow Whig. In 1854, both men joined the fledgling Republican Party. Following Lincoln's death, Herndon began collecting stories about Lincoln and published them in Herndon's Lincoln.

A Whig and an admirer of party leader Henry Clay, Lincoln was elected to a term in the U.S. House of Representatives in 1846. As a freshman House member, he was not a particularly powerful or influential figure. However, he spoke out against the Mexican-American War, which he attributed to President Polk's desire for "military glory" and challenged the President's claims regarding the Texas boundary and offered Spot Resolutions, demanding to know on what "spot" on US soil that blood was first spilt.

Lincoln later damaged his political reputation with a speech in which he declared, "God of Heaven has forgotten to defend the weak and innocent, and permitted the strong band of murderers and demons from hell to kill men, women, and children, and lay waste and pillage the land of the just." Two weeks later, President Polk sent a peace treaty to Congress. While no one in Washington paid any attention to Lincoln, the Democrats orchestrated angry outbursts from across his district, where the war was popular and many had volunteered.

Warned by his law partner, William Herndon, that the damage was mounting and irreparable, Lincoln decided not to run for reelection. His statements were not easily forgotten, and would haunt him during the Civil War. These statements were also held against him when he applied for a position in the new Taylor administration. Instead, Taylor's people offered Lincoln various positions in the remote Oregon Territory, primarily the governorship. Acceptance of this offer would have ended his career in the rapidly growing state of Illinois, so Lincoln declined the position. Returning to Springfield, Lincoln gave up politics for several years and turned his energies to his law practice.

The rest, as they say, is HISTORY!

In other words, our greatest president had less legislative experience than Barack Obama, who possesses similar reasoning skills that give him the ability to think through complex problems and make thoughtful, sound decisions. An ability not seen in the White House for nearly a decade!

Lincoln information copied from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln#Early_political_career
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:21 AM
Response to Reply #6
14. 'Obama is known for having unquestionable ethics and integrity'.
If you ignore the longstanding unofficial affiliation with Rezko?

And why talk about Lincoln, a non-sequitur subject, since the state senator was merely asked to name one accomplishment of Obama, not Lincoln? I think it reflects more on the supporters of O.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ACanadianLiberal Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 08:58 AM
Response to Reply #6
15. Nobody should overlook Obama's achievements
From the not that long list of his works, only thing I can see is his potential. Impressive? Not really (very subjective). Great leadership displayed in a consistent way? No clear clue in that direction. He might be the right (=/= great) person comes to the right intersection at the right time, but if you want to argue with his experiences to convince people, that seems to me a bit over-stretching.

BTW, President Lincoln's resume before his presidency actually was quite impressive.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:30 AM
Response to Original message
13. IM PRESIDENT BUSH AND I APPROVE THIS MESSAGE
W00H00... WE GOT THOSE DEMOCRAPS POINTING FINGERS AT EACH OTHER AGAIN...

GONNA STEAL 2008 RIGHT OUT FROM UNDER THEIR NOSES...

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK... EVERY TIME EITHER CANDIDATE SPEAKS UP LET'S DIVIDE THEM MORE

---- ITS GONNA BE A STRAIGHT TALKING EXPRESS TO THE WHITEHOUSE...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:41 AM
Response to Reply #13
16. it's called a Primary noob
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Pawel K Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 10:11 AM
Response to Original message
17. You must have missed where keith olbermann pretty much bitch slapped him for that
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 10:46 AM
Response to Reply #17
18. Nope, didn't miss it. And 'bitch slapped'? What a weak, lame 'b-s' that was, if u can call it that.
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 10:48 AM by libbygurl
It was another non-sequitur return, and I did mention KO's bias clearly showing up there. No need for the link, it's in the video clip, which you must have missed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Pawel K Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 11:59 AM
Response to Reply #18
20. I dont think I missed the link, its at the bottom of my post
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 12:00 PM by Pawel K
KO's bias? It was a total bitch slap. Matthews was upset that the guy couldn't name a single Obama accomplishment in the senate. When Keith asked Matthews to name a single accomplishment of the US senate in the last 7 years he couldn't do it. In addition, as Keith mentioned this wasn't meant to be some partisan bullshit, this was supposed to be election converage. I dont understand why you think pointing that out shows bias on Keith's part.

And is Keith biased toward Obama? You know what, I probably would agree with you that he is. But that should tell you something. The only true progressive in the main stream media right now is trying to tell you something, you should be paying attention.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 11:44 AM
Response to Original message
19. Why didn't Tweety ask Stephanie Tubbs Jones
the same question about Hillary? "Rightfully challenges Obama Supporter" but not Hillary supporter? Obama has a record of accomplishments, no matter that the supporter wasn't familiar with them, and Tweety did "ambush" him.

Obama will do just fine under scutiny - "certain supporters" is accurate - Tweety chose to ambush a supporter who really wasn't that familiar with Obama's accomplishments. Even his supporters on DU could have done better at answering the question. It's unfortunate that the gentleman questioned didn't have any answers, but that doesn't mean there aren't any answers.

After reading the top 5 threads this morning, I truly thought I must be on Free Republic. Hillary's supporters are REALLY getting desperate.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ACanadianLiberal Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 12:30 PM
Response to Reply #19
22. Laura, you like Obama, lean to him, just like the way
you love your kids. Parents love their children, and openly admire them. If anybody (mean-spirited)unnecessarily ask them why their kids so great, I believe many of them may not be able to point out one single great thing their kids have done, but they are all able to tell you the reason why their children so great is so simple: caus they're our kids, is this simple and enough like that. If their kids can play soccer. That might well be a great achievement for them though.

Put Mr. Obama beside Gore, you might know how big he really is. Compared to Hillary, he is not that small, but he is not that big, at least he is not bigger than Hillary.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 12:44 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. Thanks, but that doesn't really answer my question.
And, I could name a number of things my kids have done that make them great (in my eyes). I actually believe Obama IS bigger (as a person, and a politician) than Hillary, and I also would prefer that Al Gore had run in this race - you are correct about that.

The question remains - why did they not ask the same question of Hillary's supporter?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ACanadianLiberal Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:13 PM
Response to Reply #23
24. Did you watch the whole vedio clip?
Stephanie might not have answered the question in your satisfaction, but she answered the same question. Good Laura, you are completely in Obama's boots. Poor me, I might be in the same situation as you are. I am in Gore's boots so deeply. Haha....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 12:17 PM
Response to Original message
21. The Senator mentioned why Obama would appeal to Texans.
He offers "hope, coalitions, no labels, brings people together". In a state like Texas, this is certainly more appealing than a divisive candidate like Hillary Clinton (whom I also like).

That said, I doubt that Obama will actually win Texas in the GE. ;)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 11:04 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Political Videos Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC