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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 12:33 PM
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Obama and specifics
 
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Gonnuts Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 12:48 PM
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1. Has he got one for ...
Impeachment?

Investigating the true perpetrators of 9/11?

Election Reform?

Eliminating corporations equal rights as people?

Eliminating corporate control over him and our government?

Eliminating Federal Reserve Bank and IRS?

Exposing Bilderberg, Trilateral Commission, Bohemian Grove?

Nah, didn't think so.

Just another Melba Toast "feel-good" politician.
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wheresthemind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:14 PM
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2. Nope!
Because he's not an INSANE person.
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:51 PM
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8. Very good questions.
But he is a bit more than a "feel-good" politician.
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better tomorrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:41 AM
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12. I think he is
a guardian angel in human form
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 02:56 PM
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3. You know there's a problem
when a campaign has to say it actually HAS specifics. :hurts:

zalinda
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 03:25 PM
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5. Or say that they will be ready on "day one".
:eyes:
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:53 AM
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10. Being ready on day one
is an answer to a job interview question. Telling people you have substance after a year of campaigning is a problem, it says people think you are a puff piece.

zalinda
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Joshua N Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:00 PM
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7. Yes.
It says that his opponents are very worried about his eloquence and rhetorical ability, and claim he has no substance to point away from the fact that they are not as inspiring as he is. It also says that he is doing a good job responding to their baseless critique.
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:56 AM
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11. No
It means that people are looking for the meat in a meat and potatoes casserole. Old "Where's the Beef?" commercial would apply here. If you have to tell people there is meat there, then that means people are questioning whether or not it there at all.

zalinda
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Joshua N Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:26 PM
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13. He has stances, that is the point of this video. He's made more stances on tough issues than she has
I see plenty of substance. It was reading his issues section that initially won me over. When I went to Hillary's website to see her issues on "poverty," she did not even have a section for it, but she certainly had entitled "middle class." I am not trying to slamm her, I am just telling you I was very disappointed in that, as well as her issue dodging in the debates. Let's be real: she has an agenda for claiming he has no substance. If she loses the nomination, she will be supporting him and saying the exact opposite about him. It is a tool to scare voters into avoiding him. He has answered this question over and over. How can you not see it? Is there an issue you are not sure where he stands? You can read the site for answers. If you need help, ask me and I will gladly research it with you to satisfy your question.
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 07:12 PM
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15. That is exactly what I don't like about Obama supporters
If I have a question, you tell me to go to his site. No one can give specifics. As an Edwards supporter I could always give you specifics.

I am not a supporter of Clinton, I only like her more than Obama. And, Obama is way, way down on the list, he talks hope and change and really nothing else. You can't pin him down. That was the point. Everyone around is starting to ask what does he stand for besides hope and change. The fact that this has become such a problem for Obama that he had to basically make a commercial saying he is not an empty suit, speaks volumes about him.

zalinda
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Pappy Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 03:17 PM
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4. I'm voting for Obama because he's going to bring about the change that we need
What we need is change, not the same ol, same ol that we get from the Clonetons.
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pauldg0 Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:22 AM
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9. Edwards always said how he will make the change.....
....Obama says, I'm going to bring about change.....My God, what in the hell is he going to do...these candidates just scare the shit out of me.

I will not vote for either one of them.
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Joshua N Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:27 PM
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14. I will support either one of them
Please do not let this go so far that we will not vote for the democratic nominee.
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pauldg0 Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:15 AM
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17. O.K. Joshua.....
...you will see most Edwards people do not know what candidate if any to pick. All those two do is bicker. As you probably saw at the debates and last one Edwards' attended, he dismantled both of them because of their onstage bickering.

It was a memory I will always remember!! It is because of their style I hate them. Both are not mature enough to take the reigns from what I see.

I say, bring on a new Democratic Party. We should call it the First Democratic Party or something like that to get back to real populism, and real politics for the people and by the people, not Democratic Corporatism that both are really affixed to.

John Edwards could still have a surprise up his sleeve. I pray he does not become either Hillary or Obama's Vice Presidential choice. That could be future political suicide.

Of course there still is the attorney general spot.
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dbmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:53 PM
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6. Alert the media.
We might have some breaking news. An until now supposedly unsubstantiated presidential would-be nominee has been revealed to have had substance in his past. And not just the kind he got high on. Well, I guess he might have gotten high on both.

I just submitted the following through MSNBCs breaking news form:
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I have just witnessed the most astonishing thing.

First let me say that my astonishment is no less for the fact that I would have expected this to be revealed by hardworking journalists, of which I presume you have some in your staff. In fact I had been lead to believe the opposite of what I saw and learned.

Now sit down, before you read this:



wait for it...




Barack Obama has substance!

If that ain't breaking news...
Read these astonishing tales! - be warned though - by the end you will dread ever having aired the word substance or the likes. There is so much substance there that it will bore you out of your skull. I promise:

http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2008/02/obama-actually.html
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/20/201332/807/36/458633
http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2008/02/solutions-adden.html
http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2008/02/but-wait-theres.html
http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2008/02/all-the-rest.html

Please send this to Olbermann. I would love for him to bore your viewers with this stuff. Pretty sure they would be amazed - in an extremely bored kind of way - too.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 07:18 PM
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16. Those links are great; thank you! Too bad
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 07:21 PM by babylonsister
the people who need to read them won't.

And welcome to DU! :hi:
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